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I just wanna RESONATE! Apps, tips, techniques for resonators

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  • @Soundscaper said:
    All the effort and skill these developers use to give us the most authentic real piano sounds imaginable and you go and do all that to 'em. Must break their little hearts. 🥲

    You've got me thinking, time I tried that same chain on Swam Brass 🤣

  • @richardyot said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    Nice tip, thnx, hadn’t tried that particular combo. @NeonSilicon is the man, can’t thank him enough for these apps, crazy that they are free

    @Spud I put CuSpN and a few other things after Ravenscroft here and enjoyed the results a lot. PhaseDelayArray is adding a lot here too.

    You can barely hear the processing on that piano, it's just a little spit and polish to bring out the natural timbre 🎹

    You can hear the wood.

    @Soundscaper said:
    All the effort and skill these developers use to give us the most authentic real piano sounds imaginable and you go and do all that to 'em. Must break their little hearts. 🥲

    I've now got this pictures of Beethoven circa 1800 with an orchestra on a big stage hooked to some elliptical gears being pulled around by a team of oxen ...

  • BTW, the just released update of LRC5 will allow it to self resonate. Well, it always could self resonate, but a bug that was lurking in there made it very hard to set it to the right location without blowing up the AU. I fixed the bug, so this works better now.

    Not that I really recommend doing this (especially without a limiter on the output), but ... you can set the Q of the high-shelf to max and then pull its gain to -24dB. This causes the resonant peak to max. You can then set the Q's of the peaking filters all the way up and position them where you want. You can then sweep the four bands together to do some heavy self-resonating nonsense.

    One thing that this has got me thinking about would be to use some hacked multi-bus routing with mix busses in AUM to cause feedback loops. If you stuck some effects/delays in the loops, it could get interesting. Anyone try this? Is there a way to set this up that would work? You could get some interesting control just by using the sliders in AUM.

  • @NeonSilicon said:
    BTW, the just released update of LRC5 will allow it to self resonate. Well, it always could self resonate, but a bug that was lurking in there made it very hard to set it to the right location without blowing up the AU. I fixed the bug, so this works better now.

    Not that I really recommend doing this (especially without a limiter on the output), but ... you can set the Q of the high-shelf to max and then pull its gain to -24dB. This causes the resonant peak to max. You can then set the Q's of the peaking filters all the way up and position them where you want. You can then sweep the four bands together to do some heavy self-resonating nonsense.

    One thing that this has got me thinking about would be to use some hacked multi-bus routing with mix busses in AUM to cause feedback loops. If you stuck some effects/delays in the loops, it could get interesting. Anyone try this? Is there a way to set this up that would work? You could get some interesting control just by using the sliders in AUM.

    You can definitely do those feedback loops in aum using buss sends etc

  • @NeonSilicon said:

    One thing that this has got me thinking about would be to use some hacked multi-bus routing with mix busses in AUM to cause feedback loops. If you stuck some effects/delays in the loops, it could get interesting. Anyone try this? Is there a way to set this up that would work? You could get some interesting control just by using the sliders in AUM.

    I’ve done this many times in AUM. Putting a pitch shifter and/or a granulator in a delay’s FB loop is the most common one. I look at expensive guitar pedals for patch ideas.

  • I've now got this pictures of Beethoven circa 1800 with an orchestra on a big stage hooked to some elliptical gears being pulled around by a team of oxen ...

    Yup ... that's my lounge room pretty much.

  • @rs2000 love that clip you showed. Just tried a live playable resonator in Drambo and will hopefully upload something usable tonight.

  • OboObo
    edited April 2021

    Man, I learn so much on this site from you mad geniuses. Thanks for taking the time to explain all that @Aleyas and @NeonSilicon! Learned a lot! 🤙

    Edit: just realized @NeonSilicon is also the dev for many of the apps that have been mentioned here (already have them all),. Rock on! Appreciate you!


  • Made a resonator instrument/effect for Drambo. Works on any audio input!

  • @bcrichards said:

    Made a resonator instrument/effect for Drambo. Works on any audio input!

    Tried this morning from patchstorage. It is a really good patch. Thanks also for the video.

  • This thread is replete with ideas for things that sound good through a resonator:

    https://forum.mutable-instruments.net/t/things-that-sound-good-through-rings-elements/12578

  • This kinda resonates things...

  • I was having some fun with the Spectrum Resonator app last night. Was using it in an fx slot in AUM, running various audio through it, such a great app, can’t believe it’s free. I have a question about the x y pad functionality tho. So I’ll load an audio source in, twist the knobs to my liking, and then I’ll drift over to the xy pad, fumble around a bit and eventually find a sound that kicks ass. But as soon as I let go of the pad, the sound disappears. If I put my finger back in that same spot, sound comes back. So is this just “how it works”? Is there no way to reflect the xy generated parameters into the rest of the app? Is it just meant as a performative feature? Or maybe there’s a toggle somewhere I looked over to “hold” your finger position after you let go? Maybe a mozaic script?

  • HelHel
    edited October 2025

    @Squishy said:
    I was having some fun with the Spectrum Resonator app last night. Was using it in an fx slot in AUM, running various audio through it, such a great app, can’t believe it’s free. I have a question about the x y pad functionality tho. So I’ll load an audio source in, twist the knobs to my liking, and then I’ll drift over to the xy pad, fumble around a bit and eventually find a sound that kicks ass. But as soon as I let go of the pad, the sound disappears. If I put my finger back in that same spot, sound comes back. So is this just “how it works”? Is there no way to reflect the xy generated parameters into the rest of the app? Is it just meant as a performative feature? Or maybe there’s a toggle somewhere I looked over to “hold” your finger position after you let go? Maybe a mozaic script?

    Not familiar at all with this app , but are the parameters exposed in AUM ? If so look at the list and see if x pad y pad are on there . If so you could send a modulation signal into both and by limiting the amount of modulation signal in AUM should be able to hit the right area on the x y pad . Or maybe you could send a fixed voltage with an offset out of mirack via a midi cc output module to the x y pad .

  • @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:
    I was having some fun with the Spectrum Resonator app last night. Was using it in an fx slot in AUM, running various audio through it, such a great app, can’t believe it’s free. I have a question about the x y pad functionality tho. So I’ll load an audio source in, twist the knobs to my liking, and then I’ll drift over to the xy pad, fumble around a bit and eventually find a sound that kicks ass. But as soon as I let go of the pad, the sound disappears. If I put my finger back in that same spot, sound comes back. So is this just “how it works”? Is there no way to reflect the xy generated parameters into the rest of the app? Is it just meant as a performative feature? Or maybe there’s a toggle somewhere I looked over to “hold” your finger position after you let go? Maybe a mozaic script?

    Not familiar at all with this app , but are the parameters exposed in AUM ? If so look at the list and see if x pad y pad are on there . If so you could send a modulation signal into both and by limiting the amount of modulation signal in AUM should be able to hit the right area on the x y pad . Or maybe you could send a fixed voltage with an offset out of mirack via a midi cc output module to the x y pad .

    Yup pad x and y are exposed. Connected midi to it like instructed. Got the pad point where I wanted with it, but still when I touch the pad I get a different sound when not touching it.
    Then I saw there’s a “pad gate” parameter as well. So I connected that with midi as well. Sorted it. Apparently this gate was controlling the dampening, so by modulating I guess I effectively made it so I’m always “touching it” and gate remains open. Is this common for xy pads? I’ve never seen this gate behavior before, only in spectrum. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Either way, thank ya kindly for the help 🤙

  • @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:
    I was having some fun with the Spectrum Resonator app last night. Was using it in an fx slot in AUM, running various audio through it, such a great app, can’t believe it’s free. I have a question about the x y pad functionality tho. So I’ll load an audio source in, twist the knobs to my liking, and then I’ll drift over to the xy pad, fumble around a bit and eventually find a sound that kicks ass. But as soon as I let go of the pad, the sound disappears. If I put my finger back in that same spot, sound comes back. So is this just “how it works”? Is there no way to reflect the xy generated parameters into the rest of the app? Is it just meant as a performative feature? Or maybe there’s a toggle somewhere I looked over to “hold” your finger position after you let go? Maybe a mozaic script?

    Not familiar at all with this app , but are the parameters exposed in AUM ? If so look at the list and see if x pad y pad are on there . If so you could send a modulation signal into both and by limiting the amount of modulation signal in AUM should be able to hit the right area on the x y pad . Or maybe you could send a fixed voltage with an offset out of mirack via a midi cc output module to the x y pad .

    Yup pad x and y are exposed. Connected midi to it like instructed. Got the pad point where I wanted with it, but still when I touch the pad I get a different sound when not touching it.
    Then I saw there’s a “pad gate” parameter as well. So I connected that with midi as well. Sorted it. Apparently this gate was controlling the dampening, so by modulating I guess I effectively made it so I’m always “touching it” and gate remains open. Is this common for xy pads? I’ve never seen this gate behavior before, only in spectrum. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Either way, thank ya kindly for the help 🤙

    I’ve never come across a pad gate before but then can’t say I’ve particularly looked for one either. Out of interest can you modulate the gate open and closed , or does it just stay open. Anyhow, glad it’s working for you.

  • @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:
    I was having some fun with the Spectrum Resonator app last night. Was using it in an fx slot in AUM, running various audio through it, such a great app, can’t believe it’s free. I have a question about the x y pad functionality tho. So I’ll load an audio source in, twist the knobs to my liking, and then I’ll drift over to the xy pad, fumble around a bit and eventually find a sound that kicks ass. But as soon as I let go of the pad, the sound disappears. If I put my finger back in that same spot, sound comes back. So is this just “how it works”? Is there no way to reflect the xy generated parameters into the rest of the app? Is it just meant as a performative feature? Or maybe there’s a toggle somewhere I looked over to “hold” your finger position after you let go? Maybe a mozaic script?

    Not familiar at all with this app , but are the parameters exposed in AUM ? If so look at the list and see if x pad y pad are on there . If so you could send a modulation signal into both and by limiting the amount of modulation signal in AUM should be able to hit the right area on the x y pad . Or maybe you could send a fixed voltage with an offset out of mirack via a midi cc output module to the x y pad .

    Yup pad x and y are exposed. Connected midi to it like instructed. Got the pad point where I wanted with it, but still when I touch the pad I get a different sound when not touching it.
    Then I saw there’s a “pad gate” parameter as well. So I connected that with midi as well. Sorted it. Apparently this gate was controlling the dampening, so by modulating I guess I effectively made it so I’m always “touching it” and gate remains open. Is this common for xy pads? I’ve never seen this gate behavior before, only in spectrum. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Either way, thank ya kindly for the help 🤙

    I’ve never come across a pad gate before but then can’t say I’ve particularly looked for one either. Out of interest can you modulate the gate open and closed , or does it just stay open. Anyhow, glad it’s working for you.

    Yup. The “pad gate” was linked to dampening in the matrix window. So connecting an lfo effectively modulates the dampening. Not exactly behaving like a gate would… perhaps it’s a pressure parameter or something? Im not gonna worry bout it, got it to do what I wanted, that’s enough for me haha

  • @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:
    I was having some fun with the Spectrum Resonator app last night. Was using it in an fx slot in AUM, running various audio through it, such a great app, can’t believe it’s free. I have a question about the x y pad functionality tho. So I’ll load an audio source in, twist the knobs to my liking, and then I’ll drift over to the xy pad, fumble around a bit and eventually find a sound that kicks ass. But as soon as I let go of the pad, the sound disappears. If I put my finger back in that same spot, sound comes back. So is this just “how it works”? Is there no way to reflect the xy generated parameters into the rest of the app? Is it just meant as a performative feature? Or maybe there’s a toggle somewhere I looked over to “hold” your finger position after you let go? Maybe a mozaic script?

    Not familiar at all with this app , but are the parameters exposed in AUM ? If so look at the list and see if x pad y pad are on there . If so you could send a modulation signal into both and by limiting the amount of modulation signal in AUM should be able to hit the right area on the x y pad . Or maybe you could send a fixed voltage with an offset out of mirack via a midi cc output module to the x y pad .

    Yup pad x and y are exposed. Connected midi to it like instructed. Got the pad point where I wanted with it, but still when I touch the pad I get a different sound when not touching it.
    Then I saw there’s a “pad gate” parameter as well. So I connected that with midi as well. Sorted it. Apparently this gate was controlling the dampening, so by modulating I guess I effectively made it so I’m always “touching it” and gate remains open. Is this common for xy pads? I’ve never seen this gate behavior before, only in spectrum. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Either way, thank ya kindly for the help 🤙

    I’ve never come across a pad gate before but then can’t say I’ve particularly looked for one either. Out of interest can you modulate the gate open and closed , or does it just stay open. Anyhow, glad it’s working for you.

    In Drambo you have a gate signal when you touch an xy-pad, you're free to just not patch it though.

    A nice thing you can do with it is map X to the time of a delay, y to feedback, add an amp-envelope before the delay, connect the xy-gate to the gate input, add a mixer after the delay, connect the dry signal to the first input the wet to the second.

    Now you have a delay send, that's only open, when you touch the pad and moving on the pad changes the time and feedback.

  • @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:
    I was having some fun with the Spectrum Resonator app last night. Was using it in an fx slot in AUM, running various audio through it, such a great app, can’t believe it’s free. I have a question about the x y pad functionality tho. So I’ll load an audio source in, twist the knobs to my liking, and then I’ll drift over to the xy pad, fumble around a bit and eventually find a sound that kicks ass. But as soon as I let go of the pad, the sound disappears. If I put my finger back in that same spot, sound comes back. So is this just “how it works”? Is there no way to reflect the xy generated parameters into the rest of the app? Is it just meant as a performative feature? Or maybe there’s a toggle somewhere I looked over to “hold” your finger position after you let go? Maybe a mozaic script?

    Not familiar at all with this app , but are the parameters exposed in AUM ? If so look at the list and see if x pad y pad are on there . If so you could send a modulation signal into both and by limiting the amount of modulation signal in AUM should be able to hit the right area on the x y pad . Or maybe you could send a fixed voltage with an offset out of mirack via a midi cc output module to the x y pad .

    Yup pad x and y are exposed. Connected midi to it like instructed. Got the pad point where I wanted with it, but still when I touch the pad I get a different sound when not touching it.
    Then I saw there’s a “pad gate” parameter as well. So I connected that with midi as well. Sorted it. Apparently this gate was controlling the dampening, so by modulating I guess I effectively made it so I’m always “touching it” and gate remains open. Is this common for xy pads? I’ve never seen this gate behavior before, only in spectrum. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Either way, thank ya kindly for the help 🤙

    I’ve never come across a pad gate before but then can’t say I’ve particularly looked for one either. Out of interest can you modulate the gate open and closed , or does it just stay open. Anyhow, glad it’s working for you.

    Yup. The “pad gate” was linked to dampening in the matrix window. So connecting an lfo effectively modulates the dampening. Not exactly behaving like a gate would… perhaps it’s a pressure parameter or something? Im not gonna worry bout it, got it to do what I wanted, that’s enough for me haha

    If you are interested I’ve just come across a gated pad in mirack by JW modules. Has Gates both in and out , but what is cool is you can draw in a pattern and it will play back the x and y like a user defined lfo . Brilliant stuff.

  • @tyslothrop1 said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:
    I was having some fun with the Spectrum Resonator app last night. Was using it in an fx slot in AUM, running various audio through it, such a great app, can’t believe it’s free. I have a question about the x y pad functionality tho. So I’ll load an audio source in, twist the knobs to my liking, and then I’ll drift over to the xy pad, fumble around a bit and eventually find a sound that kicks ass. But as soon as I let go of the pad, the sound disappears. If I put my finger back in that same spot, sound comes back. So is this just “how it works”? Is there no way to reflect the xy generated parameters into the rest of the app? Is it just meant as a performative feature? Or maybe there’s a toggle somewhere I looked over to “hold” your finger position after you let go? Maybe a mozaic script?

    Not familiar at all with this app , but are the parameters exposed in AUM ? If so look at the list and see if x pad y pad are on there . If so you could send a modulation signal into both and by limiting the amount of modulation signal in AUM should be able to hit the right area on the x y pad . Or maybe you could send a fixed voltage with an offset out of mirack via a midi cc output module to the x y pad .

    Yup pad x and y are exposed. Connected midi to it like instructed. Got the pad point where I wanted with it, but still when I touch the pad I get a different sound when not touching it.
    Then I saw there’s a “pad gate” parameter as well. So I connected that with midi as well. Sorted it. Apparently this gate was controlling the dampening, so by modulating I guess I effectively made it so I’m always “touching it” and gate remains open. Is this common for xy pads? I’ve never seen this gate behavior before, only in spectrum. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Either way, thank ya kindly for the help 🤙

    I’ve never come across a pad gate before but then can’t say I’ve particularly looked for one either. Out of interest can you modulate the gate open and closed , or does it just stay open. Anyhow, glad it’s working for you.

    In Drambo you have a gate signal when you touch an xy-pad, you're free to just not patch it though.

    A nice thing you can do with it is map X to the time of a delay, y to feedback, add an amp-envelope before the delay, connect the xy-gate to the gate input, add a mixer after the delay, connect the dry signal to the first input the wet to the second.

    Now you have a delay send, that's only open, when you touch the pad and moving on the pad changes the time and feedback.

    Ah , drambo is a rabbit hole that I have yet to poke my head into. It does sound worthwhile though

  • @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:
    I was having some fun with the Spectrum Resonator app last night. Was using it in an fx slot in AUM, running various audio through it, such a great app, can’t believe it’s free. I have a question about the x y pad functionality tho. So I’ll load an audio source in, twist the knobs to my liking, and then I’ll drift over to the xy pad, fumble around a bit and eventually find a sound that kicks ass. But as soon as I let go of the pad, the sound disappears. If I put my finger back in that same spot, sound comes back. So is this just “how it works”? Is there no way to reflect the xy generated parameters into the rest of the app? Is it just meant as a performative feature? Or maybe there’s a toggle somewhere I looked over to “hold” your finger position after you let go? Maybe a mozaic script?

    Not familiar at all with this app , but are the parameters exposed in AUM ? If so look at the list and see if x pad y pad are on there . If so you could send a modulation signal into both and by limiting the amount of modulation signal in AUM should be able to hit the right area on the x y pad . Or maybe you could send a fixed voltage with an offset out of mirack via a midi cc output module to the x y pad .

    Yup pad x and y are exposed. Connected midi to it like instructed. Got the pad point where I wanted with it, but still when I touch the pad I get a different sound when not touching it.
    Then I saw there’s a “pad gate” parameter as well. So I connected that with midi as well. Sorted it. Apparently this gate was controlling the dampening, so by modulating I guess I effectively made it so I’m always “touching it” and gate remains open. Is this common for xy pads? I’ve never seen this gate behavior before, only in spectrum. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Either way, thank ya kindly for the help 🤙

    I’ve never come across a pad gate before but then can’t say I’ve particularly looked for one either. Out of interest can you modulate the gate open and closed , or does it just stay open. Anyhow, glad it’s working for you.

    Yup. The “pad gate” was linked to dampening in the matrix window. So connecting an lfo effectively modulates the dampening. Not exactly behaving like a gate would… perhaps it’s a pressure parameter or something? Im not gonna worry bout it, got it to do what I wanted, that’s enough for me haha

    If you are interested I’ve just come across a gated pad in mirack by JW modules. Has Gates both in and out , but what is cool is you can draw in a pattern and it will play back the x and y like a user defined lfo . Brilliant stuff.

    Think I know the module you’re talking about! Maybe hooking that up to Spectrum would be the easier route. Thanks x2! I really need to start using miracks midi out more. Lotta great stuff in there!

  • @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @Squishy said:
    I was having some fun with the Spectrum Resonator app last night. Was using it in an fx slot in AUM, running various audio through it, such a great app, can’t believe it’s free. I have a question about the x y pad functionality tho. So I’ll load an audio source in, twist the knobs to my liking, and then I’ll drift over to the xy pad, fumble around a bit and eventually find a sound that kicks ass. But as soon as I let go of the pad, the sound disappears. If I put my finger back in that same spot, sound comes back. So is this just “how it works”? Is there no way to reflect the xy generated parameters into the rest of the app? Is it just meant as a performative feature? Or maybe there’s a toggle somewhere I looked over to “hold” your finger position after you let go? Maybe a mozaic script?

    Not familiar at all with this app , but are the parameters exposed in AUM ? If so look at the list and see if x pad y pad are on there . If so you could send a modulation signal into both and by limiting the amount of modulation signal in AUM should be able to hit the right area on the x y pad . Or maybe you could send a fixed voltage with an offset out of mirack via a midi cc output module to the x y pad .

    Yup pad x and y are exposed. Connected midi to it like instructed. Got the pad point where I wanted with it, but still when I touch the pad I get a different sound when not touching it.
    Then I saw there’s a “pad gate” parameter as well. So I connected that with midi as well. Sorted it. Apparently this gate was controlling the dampening, so by modulating I guess I effectively made it so I’m always “touching it” and gate remains open. Is this common for xy pads? I’ve never seen this gate behavior before, only in spectrum. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Either way, thank ya kindly for the help 🤙

    I’ve never come across a pad gate before but then can’t say I’ve particularly looked for one either. Out of interest can you modulate the gate open and closed , or does it just stay open. Anyhow, glad it’s working for you.

    Yup. The “pad gate” was linked to dampening in the matrix window. So connecting an lfo effectively modulates the dampening. Not exactly behaving like a gate would… perhaps it’s a pressure parameter or something? Im not gonna worry bout it, got it to do what I wanted, that’s enough for me haha

    If you are interested I’ve just come across a gated pad in mirack by JW modules. Has Gates both in and out , but what is cool is you can draw in a pattern and it will play back the x and y like a user defined lfo . Brilliant stuff.

    Think I know the module you’re talking about! Maybe hooking that up to Spectrum would be the easier route. Thanks x2! I really need to start using miracks midi out more. Lotta great stuff in there!

    Yes it is unbelievably deep , and by the way if you do use that module though then you have to press the little up arrow symbol at the top of mirack to enter shift mode before you can draw in your x y points . (‘took me 10 minutes of poking about to discover that , and not immediately obvious ).

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