TC Data on sale for 9.99

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@monzo said:

@soundklinik said:

@monzo said:

I can't. I bought it when it first came out, but because of bugs and crashes got a refund (probably the only one I've ever asked for), and Apple now won't let me repurchase. I was hoping to replicate it with TC DATA controlling another synth.

@monzo , you can buy it again, but not directly, you have to send it to yourself as a gift.

You do that by clicking on the rectangle with arrow (right top corner) and send it to your email address registered to your account and then redeem it.

Thanks for the info. It seems I might be able to buy it via iTunes on the desktop - but a bit nervous I'll still be blocked from downloading it via the iPad. I'll probably give it a go later, I guess if it doesn't work they'll have to refund the purchase.

No worries, it works, I did it with two apps that got fixed. You basically send it to yourself. I got the tip from Apple help centre. (Then you redeem from your mail address)
Legal, just a workaround for a silly rule, that punish developers.

knewspeak

@monzo said:

@soundklinik said:

@monzo said:

I can't. I bought it when it first came out, but because of bugs and crashes got a refund (probably the only one I've ever asked for), and Apple now won't let me repurchase. I was hoping to replicate it with TC DATA controlling another synth.

@monzo , you can buy it again, but not directly, you have to send it to yourself as a gift.

You do that by clicking on the rectangle with arrow (right top corner) and send it to your email address registered to your account and then redeem it.

Thanks for the info. It seems I might be able to buy it via iTunes on the desktop - but a bit nervous I'll still be blocked from downloading it via the iPad. I'll probably give it a go later, I guess if it doesn't work they'll have to refund the purchase.

Double refund? Now that has got to be a first, if it fails to download, Mr Monzo the bane of Appledom.

[Deleted User]

@soundklinik said:

No worries, it works, I did it with two apps that got fixed. You basically send it to yourself. I got the tip from Apple help centre. (Then you redeem from your mail address)
Legal, just a workaround for a silly rule, that punish developers.

I've just put that through and it worked perfectly - thanks for your help

Lovely update - I might buy TC DATA as well while it's on offer.

nick

congrats @monzo and yes data is highly recommended as well at this price

[Deleted User]

@nick said:
congrats @monzo and yes data is highly recommended as well at this price

Thanks! I'm impressed with the Zappaesque jazz maneuvers posted by @Moderndaycompiler so Data's on my chin scratching list for today.

Tritonman

Be aware you may or may not suffer occasional crashes with TC-Data or which ever app your running it with. I have suffered a few now. I just do not care as I am having too much fun already with this one.. My fiddlecator bone in my right hand has not fealt this good in quite some time now.

Tritonman

I have TC-Data controlling Synthmaster. Every time time I change patches in TC the connection to Synthmster is lost until I switch Synthmaster back to the foreground. Synthmaster patch window then blinks and the connection is re-established. Anyone else getting this ?

Tritonman

I have absolutely no idea what so ever how to make my own patches. Anyone know of a (good) tutorial?

Tritonman

@Tritonman said:
I have TC-Data controlling Synthmaster. Every time time I change patches in TC the connection to Synthmster is lost until I switch Synthmaster back to the foreground. Synthmaster patch window then blinks and the connection is re-established. Anyone else getting this ?

I just learned that if I go to settings/display, and turn off the scrolling messages I no longer lose the connection.(cool beans). Note to self , finish reading the manual.

[Deleted User]

@Tritonman said:
I have absolutely no idea what so ever how to make my own patches. Anyone know of a (good) tutorial?

What do you think of the presets? I watched Doug's vid, where he was controlling Magellan, but the patches all sounded very similar.

Tritonman

I want to learn more about patch creation but the ones that come with it give quite a bit of variation actually. The one called Patch Change is freaking awesome! I have data connected to Synthmaster and every time you lift all fingers and then touch again the patch in Synthmaster changes. It is a great way for audition sounds and a ton of fun on top of that. Have you done a video search for TC-data? I would like more but there are enough to show how nice it really is.

[Deleted User]

@Tritonman said:
I want to learn more about patch creation but the ones that come with it give quite a bit of variation actually. The one called Patch Change is freaking awesome! I have data connected to Synthmaster and every time you lift all fingers and then touch again the patch in Synthmaster changes. It is a great way for audition sounds and a ton of fun on top of that. Have you done a video search for TC-data? I would like more but there are enough to show how nice it really is.

Yeah looked through the vids - there aren't many, what you're saying sounds good though. Pretty sure I'll get it, though spending a bit more than I planned this weekend...

AudioGus

i just make a click track and count... musicians have recorded many great albums this way.

@Kaikoo said:

@AudioGus said:
Huh... TC-Data actually works quite well for recording sequences in gadget once you crank the grid size on gadget up to 64. Very cool

I know it is very good performance tool.

Can it command the Start/Stop on Korg Gadget? I wonder, because without this function, it is useless midi tool for my Gadget recording.

No offense!

Goozoon

Guys, why tcdata has X axis vertically and Y horizontally?

Tritonman

You can reorient TC-Data whenever the Navigation Bar is visible to switch between portrait and landscape modes. Many controllers depend on X or Y-axis positions. To keep X / Y controllers consistent, those axes are always fixed as follows:
Y-axis
X-axis
More on this subject I page 12 of the manual.

nick

yes it looks like in landscape, the whole matrix is rotated 90 degrees, so that makes sense when orientation can be switched (did not know that)

Kaikoo

Hehe, you guys are new!

I forgot everything, but I might try to say that the longer distance head up camera side are always the Y+ axis, no matter how you change the view from turning the software around, you always can find that axis direction, so TC-11 or Data's program setting can always co-ordinate whenever you try to define the program's directinal parameters.

audiblevideo

For those who need extra TC-Data control and dont want to wave their iPad around there's a companion app TC Orbiter http://www.bitshapesoftware.com/instruments/tc-orbiter/

I use it as a stand alone controller on my iPhone to give CC expressions to my already sequenced notes.

oat_phipps

I'd say this was the best sale outside of the 50% off Korgs. Glad to see lots of people getting on board with such a complex but usable tool.

[Deleted User]

Moderndaycompiler said:

tc-data is an essential app for me. My primary use is as a composition tool and performance surface. fantastic synth controller too no doubt. Here is a little free form jazz homage to Ruth Underwood. ThumbJam Vibes, Im1 saxes, and DrumJam all played live in one take on TC-Data into MultiTrackDaw. probably not everyones cup of tea...

@Moderndaycompiler ,  can you tell me how do you use the TC data to compose with?
I thought that it is a midi controller, (which it is), but I had no idea that it can do what you did.

 Edit: don't, I just watched the video and with the complexity of it, I don't want to waste your time...guess I'll have to buy it 

And thanks for sharing, excellent track, I am also a big Zappa-Beefheart fan. 

[Deleted User]

Bought it, but I'm not feeling the love yet - though did get some Zappaesque jazz noodles using iM1 drums, Poseidon xylophone and Nave strings. Dunno about this one. 

[Deleted User]

Spent a few hours with this today, but despite the occasional 'moment', overall this has been hard work. I haven't been able to record anything, as getting everything MiMixed and AB'd up takes forever, and once it's there if you start browsing TC Data patches all hell breaks loose - apps going silent, violent audio spikes and glitches....just a flipping nightmare.

Making music should be a joy, this is akin to putting a fence up in a gale. Not all the fault if the app itself, but to get the best out if it supporting apps and MIDI on the iPad need to be a lot more robust than they are at present.

Moderndaycompiler

@soundklinik @monzo

Programming TC-Data is daunting but once you get the hang of it... Attached is a zip file of an example Ruth In An Instant. This example is geared towards creating notes and not so much controlling the sound via CC data. Think of it as an organic arpeggiator from from strict patterns and timing. There are notes in the patch viewable in TC-Data describing the setup. If you have DrumJam, ThumbJam, IM1, (all on channel 1) then you should be able to "play";). What makes it work for me is the fact that DrumJam (GM note map off) now has quantized taps for the play pads and fortunately incoming midi notes are quantized when routed to the pads. The Steve Sidelynk kit maps best to this patch but you can/should try others.

If you play notes without moving the touches you get a simple bebop scale and DrumJam plays the nearest mapped sound. As soon as you drag the touches you get chromatic runs from the second note module. The notes played outside of DrumJam feel looser since they are not quantized. Try IElectric Wurly for a George Duke feel.

If you want a variation that is not completely chromatic in the dragged note module, set up 8 keyfilters that are then ranged by some touch parameter. Eg. Y axis ranged 1-8 will give 8 keyfilter zones in Y. Then edit each of the 8 keyfilters choosing intervals or chords based on the bebopish scale in the first note module. As your touches range across Y you can achieve some harmonic variety. Hope this helps. Had to zip the patch since the forum does not accept the patch file as is. Hope that works too;)

Munibeast

monzo said:

Spent a few hours with this today, but despite the occasional 'moment', overall this has been hard work. I haven't been able to record anything, as getting everything MiMixed and AB'd up takes forever, and once it's there if you start browsing TC Data patches all hell breaks loose - apps going silent, violent audio spikes and glitches....just a flipping nightmare.

Making music should be a joy, this is akin to putting a fence up in a gale. Not all the fault if the app itself, but to get the best out if it supporting apps and MIDI on the iPad need to be a lot more robust than they are at present.

Thanks for removing the stinging want that I felt right after listening to the great music @Moderndaycompiler posted earlier. Will definitely keep it on my watchlist, though.

Tritonman

I had the same problems at first until I turned off the message scroll on left of the screen in utilities/display if memory serves .  That was all it took to fix it and get it to run smoothly.  Good luck, given your on an air 2 and I am on an air1 I am quite sure it will work smoothly for you once you get it set up.

[Deleted User]

Moderndaycompiler said:

@soundklinik @monzo

Programming TC-Data is daunting but once you get the hang of it... Attached is a zip file of an example Ruth In An Instant. This example is geared towards creating notes and not so much controlling the sound via CC data. Think of it as an organic arpeggiator from from strict patterns and timing. There are notes in the patch viewable in TC-Data describing the setup. If you have DrumJam, ThumbJam, IM1, (all on channel 1) then you should be able to "play";). What makes it work for me is the fact that DrumJam (GM note map off) now has quantized taps for the play pads and fortunately incoming midi notes are quantized when routed to the pads. The Steve Sidelynk kit maps best to this patch but you can/should try others.

If you play notes without moving the touches you get a simple bebop scale and DrumJam plays the nearest mapped sound. As soon as you drag the touches you get chromatic runs from the second note module. The notes played outside of DrumJam feel looser since they are not quantized. Try IElectric Wurly for a George Duke feel.

If you want a variation that is not completely chromatic in the dragged note module, set up 8 keyfilters that are then ranged by some touch parameter. Eg. Y axis ranged 1-8 will give 8 keyfilter zones in Y. Then edit each of the 8 keyfilters choosing intervals or chords based on the bebopish scale in the first note module. As your touches range across Y you can achieve some harmonic variety. Hope this helps. Had to zip the patch since the forum does not accept the patch file as is. Hope that works too;)

Thanks for the info and patch  - very helpful. It's not so much an issue with the controller itself, but the way it's working with other apps when I try and record.

i just tried again: loaded up nave and Poseidon, and edited a TC Data patch and got a really lovely thing going. Loaded Nave, Poseidon into Audiobus using MiMix to route them into Audioshare, and it all goes to pot. It goes without saying now that I have to eject and reload everything into AB to work, but even once they're all working the controller becomes unusable: the lovely sounding patch is crackling and leaping about in volume, before Nave gives up and goes silent.

Not sure how you're recording, but this isn't working for me, the controller app seems to throw a wibbly once Audiobus is in the mix. Maybe I'll try Auria...but that's usually worse with multiple live tracks.

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Tritonman said:

I had the same problems at first until I turned off the message scroll on left of the screen in utilities/display if memory serves .  That was all it took to fix it and get it to run smoothly.  Good luck, given your on an air 2 and I am on an air1 I am quite sure it will work smoothly for you once you get it set up.

Thanks for the tip - I haven't got that on my main iPad settings but switched off 'show message list' in the app settings. Hasn't made any difference, as soon as I load it into Audiobus/MiMix it goes mental.

knewspeak

monzo said:

Making music should be a joy, this is akin to putting a fence up in a gale. Not all the fault if the app itself, but to get the best out if it supporting apps and MIDI on the iPad need to be a lot more robust than they are at present.

Was thinking of getting this,
now that gale, has blown me, up on to,
that bloomin' fence of yours!

[Deleted User]

Moderndaycompiler said:

Hope this helps. Had to zip the patch since the forum does not accept the patch file as is. Hope that works too;)

The .zip worked perfectly - thank you! I've just tried routing Thumbjam, Drumjam and iM1 into Auria - and that also worked perfectly, no wig-outs from the controller this time. Seems I have an issue with the MiMix/TC Data combo for some reason. Maybe it's one of those things that a few reboots will clear, but for now at least I can record into Auria.

Your help has been invaluable, and much appreciated.

Munibeast said:

Thanks for removing the stinging want that I felt right after listening to the great music @Moderndaycompiler posted earlier. Will definitely keep it on my watchlist, though.

It's taken me hours, but I've finally found a setup where I can record the results. I'm familiar with TC-11 so editing patches and using the controller is pretty straightforward - my problems lay in trying to record the thing! I think if you're a Zappa fan this is a good app to have, as it really lends itself to Zappaesque workouts, just be prepared for a bit of work to get there though!

knewspeak said:

monzo said:

Making music should be a joy, this is akin to putting a fence up in a gale. Not all the fault if the app itself, but to get the best out if it supporting apps and MIDI on the iPad need to be a lot more robust than they are at present.

Was thinking of getting this,
now that gale, has blown me, up on to,
that bloomin' fence of yours!

No don't take any notice of me, I'm probably trying to do too much with it as usual, and I've managed to tame it now. If you have Auria then you should be able to record into that without any problems - worked very smoothly for me - for some reason the MiMix/AB/Audioshare chain was making it throw a wobbly.

AudioGus

Moderndaycompiler said:

Programming TC-Data is daunting but once you get the hang of it... Attached is a zip file of an example Ruth In An Instant. This example is geared towards creating notes and not so much controlling the sound via CC data. Think of it as an organic arpeggiator from from strict patterns and timing. There are notes in the patch viewable in TC-Data describing the setup. If you have DrumJam, ThumbJam, IM1, (all on channel 1) then you should be able to "play";). What makes it work for me is the fact that DrumJam (GM note map off) now has quantized taps for the play pads and fortunately incoming midi notes are quantized when routed to the pads. The Steve Sidelynk kit maps best to this patch but you can/should try others.

If you play notes without moving the touches you get a simple bebop scale and DrumJam plays the nearest mapped sound. As soon as you drag the touches you get chromatic runs from the second note module. The notes played outside of DrumJam feel looser since they are not quantized. Try IElectric Wurly for a George Duke feel.

If you want a variation that is not completely chromatic in the dragged note module, set up 8 keyfilters that are then ranged by some touch parameter. Eg. Y axis ranged 1-8 will give 8 keyfilter zones in Y. Then edit each of the 8 keyfilters choosing intervals or chords based on the bebopish scale in the first note module. As your touches range across Y you can achieve some harmonic variety. Hope this helps. Had to zip the patch since the forum does not accept the patch file as is. Hope that works too;)

Thank you so much for that patch!  you made my Sunday!