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So it IS maybe best to bounce to mono then?!
The best is using mono from the start! Unfortunately, IAA seems to be locked to stereo, and that is another brick in the wall of sh*t that is IAA. If you have instruments that allow for mono sounds, give them preference. Of course, if you need sounds from IAA instruments, and they are meant to be basses or kicks, bounce to mono and check if they keep sounding good. If they are not kicks or basses, use the sensible approach to stereo sources I suggested above. Perhaps the only things that I would always keep in stereo are drum loops (as long as they are full drums, not just kick loops). Cheers!
Great, thanks @theconnactic
Means a fair bit of bouncing, but I understand now why certain instruments send stereo signals.
Yeah, it would be easier if more instruments gave a mono option for the output!
Yeah, indeed! Stereo’s better left to Aux (“send”) FXs.
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Panning of a stereo track is done in one of two ways - either the pan becomes a balance control, using more of the left or right as appropriate, or it could actually pan the stereo track itself, keeping both sides but moving them over. In reaper, you can pan this way by using the 8x1 mixer. In auria, I'm not sure if there is a way to do the same thing. One thing you can do though is narrow a stereo track using the stock delay plugin and setting it 100% wet then using the width control, using a delay time of zero. It's possible that after narrowing it that would affect the Panning then and make it less like a balance control, but I haven't tried in a long time.
I hope that made sense. I generally don't use stereo files unless it's really something that is truly stereo, and even then I like 2 mono tracks to a bus so I can more readily control the width and position.
Thanks! @mrufino1
@mrufino1, there's no equivalent in Auria. In fact, only Reaper and Logic currently can do this. Cheers!
I have finished my first song in Auria, so I'm now ready to master.
I'd like to know how you all go about this?
Do you mix down first and then put Pro L on the mixed song?
Or can you just put Pro L on the Master Bus of your mix and do it that way?
The way I do it these days is to mix the track with a fair amount of headroom, so that the master levels peak around -6db on the mix, then add Pro L to the Master Bus and set the scale to K12, then raise the output fader so that only the loudest parts of the track go above 0db. That gives a nice dynamic sound that isn't overcompressed.
It's a good idea to use the Group busses by the Master Fader so that you can quickly reduce the overall mix prior to the mastering stage. For example have the drums go to Group 1, all instruments to Group 2, Main vocal to Group 3, secondary/backing vocals to Group 4 etc... That means you can quickly balance the main elements of the mix with a small number of faders, and if you need to reduce the overall levels to gain some headroom you can also do this with just a few faders.
@richardyot
Thanks! I didn't see much point in mixing down when Pro L could just go on the master fader, so you've confirmed that for me
I'll use the group busses once I'm a bit more confident.
I approach it pretty much that same as @richardyot does, except I do the "mastering" with Pro-L in a new Auria project. The main reason is because I like to import a reference mix or two for comparison, and being in a new project reduces clutter. I think you'll get the same results either way.
Thanks @Shaken&;Stirred
Confirms to me that I'm on the right path. Just bought Bark Filter and placed it before Pro L in the master bus. Pretty happy with it
I'll post it in SOTMC at some point, so I hope my 1st Auria mix is worthy!
Hi @richardyot
Wondered if you have ever used Saturn on vocals and if it's worth buying/trying for that purpose.
Just wanted to try a few different effects on vocal tracks.
No, I haven't done that. It's an interesting idea, would certainly add some grit and dirt to a vocal, but it's not the sound I'm looking for in my vocals. For vocal FX I tend to stick to the bread-and-butter: compression, reverb, delay.
Thanks. I'll give it a go and if it doesn't work, it'll go on some guitar tracks anyway
Yes! I use Saturn on vocals often. Not for the whole track, necessarily (although you could) but for a bridge section, or to give some variation to on half of a doubled track, works great, IMO.
Thanks @Shaken&;Stirred
That's pretty much what I want to do!
I'm after that 'radio voice' sound.
Yeah, Saturn will do that for ya (and way more!). check this track at about the 3:28 mark is the bridge where I use Saturn on part of the vocals that has sort of the radio voice sound.
Radio voice is traditionally done with a band-pass filter. You could do it with Pro-Q or Volcano, filtering out everything except the midrange.
Thanks again @Shaken&;Stirred
I'll experiment after work!
Thanks @richardyot
I already tried that on Pro Q with the 'Phone' setting, but I wanted a bit more grit n fuzz too.
Seems like loadsa bands use it these days. Killers. Kasabian. The Strokes wouldn't be the same without it!
Groovy track - love the feel, very Donnie Irisish
Wow, there's a name I haven't heard in a while...gonna have to spin some. Thanks for that!
NP - allow me to lay down the first video platter for everyone, in preparation for @JohnnyGoodyear's big party tonight
How do I convert a stereo track to mono in Auria?
Also, on a Frozen track, how can I make a copy of it with effects Printed so I can unfreeze it? Thanks guys, couldn’t find any answers thru search.
^ i was thinking about copying frozen tracks a while ago. I couldnt find an easy way. A mix down seems overkill. Its so easy to do in Cubasis as a frozen track is copiable. Hope you get an good answer.
The solo track mixdown is the easier way and essentially the same thing as in Cubasis (don't forget to select "import as a new track"). Perhaps you can also import the frozen audio file from the project folder, but it's not as straightforward.
By the way, the solo'ed mixdown/import as new track is the best way to convert to mono - just remember to mix it down as mono!
Thanks! I couldn’t find the option in either process or edit but good to know it’s possible. I really do like how BM3 is right there one press and voila! Stereo to mono. But it’s okay.
A couple of questions. Maybe I missed these. In the thread earlier:
2) Instead of freezing, you can solo the track, turn off master effects (in the master channel strip) and mix down as wav with the box import as a new track checked. Other than that, you can import the file from the project’s Freeze Files folder (I think, but I never actually did this way).