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Elastic Drums Update 1.7.4 ... 1.7.6 is available for download

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  • @magnum38 ,

    Please insert midi data on Auria piano roll editor! Try, can you?

  • edited April 2016

    @Kaikoo2 said:

    @magnum38 said:

    @Kaikoo2 said:

    @magnum38 said:

    @Kaikoo2 said:
    @magnum38

    Please make the clock and iaa working under Auria IAA instrument, let it driven by Auria Pro editor midi data. It failed always, I silence always.

    Thank you,

    Which version of Auria do I have to buy for that?

    I think a pure new purchase is Auria Pro version for $50 dollar to have midi instrument working! So better not buy upgrade version. The Engine is the same on upgraded version, which I am on!

    I am deeply appreciated your endeavor! I never use ED drum for this reason only, because I believe Auria Pro plugin can fully benefit ED! Many of us do not quite like your sound generator! I understand why! Actually, if taking ED to AuriaP, every perspective changes for! That is why I always on the fence for hoping ED into the future. I know this is your baby, I so appreciated your loving to it.

    Thank you so much.

    Hi, I just tested Elastic Drums in Arturia Pro and it worked with no problems:
    I opened Arturia Pro and added ED as InterApp-Audio Instrument, with the standard settings:
    Ableton Link deactivated, Midi Clock in deactivated.

    Do you use the most latest version of ED? Or different settings? Which iOS are you using?

    Yes I use latest on all!

    Ok, magnum,

    Try this way, can you hear drum sound on piano roll? This is the general process on Auria for drum and synth midi playing, not by the grid data on ED!

    I do not want the data inside ED, Because there is timing difference issue for recording, ED has no latency milisecond adjustment (both positive and negative). So the recorded data not aligned well. So, lets put the data on Auria, not ED itself! There are many benefit on this by using Auria midi data editor! 1. Better midi timing (if you have latency adjustment) and loop control! 2. Fabfilter plugins and PSP compression setup! 3. Rhythmic external side-chain (Pro G). I knew ED has many FXs and compressor, but I want my way to change the sound of ED engine to suit my need!

    Try the way on these photos, ED is problematic on that! Maybe something Of my mistake because I do not know ED well!

    Okay, a couple of things:

    1) ED does not respond to Midi triggers at the moment (since update 1.7.4). Sorry about this, I am on it. So at the moment you can use ED only the way I was using it
    2) When ED responds to Midi Triggers again after an update hopefully soon, I would recommend you to switch of all Midi Sync sources from ED and to ED. There is no need for that, when you don't want to use ED's internal sequencer, because you want just to trigger Sounds from the sequencer of Auria, right?

    So, at the moment I just can ask you to be a bit patient and wait for the next update. ED's Midi possibilities will be better and more fun compared to now.

    Cheers, Oliver

  • @ Magnum38,

    Oliver, Thank you.

  • @magnum38

    I'm sorry to say it but even after re-installing ElasticDrums it's still very feels 'unresponsive' on my iPad Air 2, iOS9.3.1.(No other apps are running at the same time).

    Even with a small buffer (64-128) there is still a ~0.5s 'lag' after hitting a pad until it makes some noise making real-time recording very 'unpredictable'. Programming beats works fine though but auditioning sounds in real-time while editing the parameters is pretty darn frustrating. The 'lag' is especially noticeable when playing the 'record pads'.

    Maybe I should consider ElasticDrums a 'non-realtime' drum synthesizer?!

  • @Samu said:
    @magnum38

    I'm sorry to say it but even after re-installing ElasticDrums it's still very feels 'unresponsive' on my iPad Air 2, iOS9.3.1.(No other apps are running at the same time).

    Even with a small buffer (64-128) there is still a ~0.5s 'lag' after hitting a pad until it makes some noise making real-time recording very 'unpredictable'. Programming beats works fine though but auditioning sounds in real-time while editing the parameters is pretty darn frustrating. The 'lag' is especially noticeable when playing the 'record pads'.

    Maybe I should consider ElasticDrums a 'non-realtime' drum synthesizer?!

    I'm getting the delay on the pads now. Can't remember getting that before.

  • @Samu
    It is not lag; sounds are triggered on touch off rather than touch on.

  • @mschenkel.it said:
    @Samu
    It is not lag; sounds are triggered on touch off rather than touch on.

    Hmm, that's pretty 'odd behaviour' since almost every other app triggers 'on touch'.

  • @Samu said:

    @mschenkel.it said:
    @Samu
    It is not lag; sounds are triggered on touch off rather than touch on.

    Hmm, that's pretty 'odd behaviour' since almost every other app triggers 'on touch'.

    Yes imagine a real drum kit doing that :p

  • @mschenkel.it said:
    @Samu
    It is not lag; sounds are triggered on touch off rather than touch on.

    what did the dev say about this?

  • @kobamoto said:

    @mschenkel.it said:
    @Samu
    It is not lag; sounds are triggered on touch off rather than touch on.

    what did the dev say about this?

    If it's not considered a bug It's a 'design malfunction deluxe' :)

  • Dev says: I will try to improve this ;)
    Even the focus of ED was never on realtime drumming, but on the various sequencer possibilities (time, len, seq delay)

  • @magnum38 said:
    Dev says: I will try to improve this ;)
    Even the focus of ED was never on realtime drumming, but on the various sequencer possibilities (time, len, seq delay)

    Thanks, I trust you can fix this :)

  • Pads ? Where are they ?

  • I love Elastic Drums and have complete faith in this Devs abilities.

  • @carol said:
    Pads ? Where are they ?

    Press the 'record' button on in the bottom right corner bring up the pads :)

  • Regarding the 'lag' the trigger buttons on the 'jam' page work flawlessly :)

  • @Samu said:
    Regarding the 'lag' the trigger buttons on the 'jam' page work flawlessly :)

    It's the buttons on the instr page (select and trigger) and the record-pads that have the 'lag'.

  • @Samu said:

    @carol said:
    Pads ? Where are they ?

    Press the 'record' button on in the bottom right corner bring up the pads :)

    Ah right thanks Samu - I normally play it live and tweak the instrument settings , didn't know they were there !

    @magnum38 Be nice if they were on a separate page ( like iMaschine and other rhythm apps ) so I could trigger sounds via the pads live , without having to arm the record ;))

  • @carol said:

    @Samu said:

    @carol said:
    Pads ? Where are they ?

    Press the 'record' button on in the bottom right corner bring up the pads :)

    Ah right thanks Samu - I normally play it live and tweak the instrument settings , didn't know they were there !

    @magnum38 Be nice if they were on a separate page ( like iMaschine and other rhythm apps ) so I could trigger sounds via the pads live , without having to arm the record ;))

    well, that's the intention of the jam screen ;) Instrument's screen is to create pattern, jam screen is to play with them.

    the 'lag' of the instrument pads is, because your playing get's quantized to the grid of the sequencer, that's why it might feel a bit weird. maybe I have to change it a bit technically, so you hear your "wrong" playing and it get's quantized after

  • @magnum38 said:

    @carol said:

    @Samu said:

    @carol said:
    Pads ? Where are they ?

    Press the 'record' button on in the bottom right corner bring up the pads :)

    Ah right thanks Samu - I normally play it live and tweak the instrument settings , didn't know they were there !

    @magnum38 Be nice if they were on a separate page ( like iMaschine and other rhythm apps ) so I could trigger sounds via the pads live , without having to arm the record ;))

    well, that's the intention of the jam screen ;) Instrument's screen is to create pattern, jam screen is to play with them.

    The drum pads aren't on the jam screen though are they ? There's a trigger option , but doesn't seem to do anything when I press them

  • @magnum38 said:
    the 'lag' of the instrument pads is, because your playing get's quantized to the grid of the sequencer, that's why it might feel a bit weird. maybe I have to change it a bit technically, so you hear your "wrong" playing and it get's quantized after

    That makes sense :)

    Most of the hardware drum-machines I've owned trigger the sound when I hit a pad, correct the timing and store the quantised note in the pattern so next time the pattern plays it's on time.

  • @magnum38 said:

    @carol said:

    @Samu said:

    @carol said:
    Pads ? Where are they ?

    Press the 'record' button on in the bottom right corner bring up the pads :)

    Ah right thanks Samu - I normally play it live and tweak the instrument settings , didn't know they were there !

    @magnum38 Be nice if they were on a separate page ( like iMaschine and other rhythm apps ) so I could trigger sounds via the pads live , without having to arm the record ;))

    well, that's the intention of the jam screen ;) Instrument's screen is to create pattern, jam screen is to play with them.

    the 'lag' of the instrument pads is, because your playing get's quantized to the grid of the sequencer, that's why it might feel a bit weird. maybe I have to change it a bit technically, so you hear your "wrong" playing and it get's quantized after

    Yeah my timing sounds great - not lol

    I always love that part where I drum in some beats, it's then quantised and I go....that's what I meant to play! :p

  • @magnum38 Hang in there Mister O.

  • edited May 2016

    Okay, so Elastic Drums update 1.7.6 is out !!!

    Here is the list:

    • Improved single drum record export: Now you also can email and import the single drum channel records to AudioShare (1.7.5)
    • improved IAA general performance (reduced graphic performance) (1.7.5)
    • Improved sync performance in IAA (much more accurate)
    • Midi trigger is working again
    • Option to tweak all instr. parameters with the same Midi controller
    • added Midi input via IAA
    • improved Midi possibilities (check the Manual)
    • demos by Swarm Intelligence
    • Audobus Vers. 2.3.2b10

    I made a video to show ED’s IAA sync performance together with some Arturia apps and midi hardware, all used in AUM as the host app:

    I made another video with Studiomux as host app and ED and Fugue going directly into Ableton Live with lightning cable and mux technology:

    For Modstep lovers, who want to trigger ED:

    Enjoy the update :)

  • Thank you for making and continuing to develop ED, thank you thank you thank you.

  • @magnum38 , Thank you so much for the new update.

    Elastic Drum very cool now via IAA to Modstep drum pad by midi learn. To Auria Pro piano roll must be cool too.

  • I tested Elastic Drums in Auria Pro with IAA sync, and it works great. Should work similar with Auria Pro piano, yeah

  • @magnum38 ,

    Is it natural to have a radio buzz sound when change patterns by using Modstep drum pad?

    The patterns switching via midi learn assigned to pad. All the sequenced pattern on ED, I press the pad to command playing ED, then I press pad to change patterns and I can hear so many radio buzz glitches? Any idea how to avoid those sound?

    iOS9.31 Air2

  • That should not be the case. As you can see, I switched patterns with Ableton live via Studiomux in the video also.

    ED ist still heavy for the processor, so if you use Modstep and ED and lots of other synths, it might happen, even with your Air2. With weaker devices Modstep and ED won't even work at all.

    Did you avoid double triggers? Like, how I "explained" it in the 3rd Modstep Midi to Ed video?

  • If I trigger a drum from the screen, it jumps back to the main screen. This happened AFTER I had an unsuccessful attempt at MIDI learn: something's up with the process.

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