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In general it is possible to have several bluetooth devices connected at the same time.
You may not beable to control several iPads with the same controler but the other way round -- one ipad with several controler -- should work.
Thanks, @Seangarland. Maybe multiple devices allowed because it's transmitting Bluetooth MIDI--rather than garden variety MIDI? (My understanding is that Apple allows only one BT connection and it has to be foregrounded to prevent keystroke capture.)
They definitely can be used in tandem Sean.
I just spent some time with my new nanoKey and I have a few major concerns (or else I'm missing something...)
Arpeggiator.... Is there really no way to sync this to Gadget's clock? Seems like the only way to get it close to sync is tap tempo, which is really sloppy.
Scale Guide... This doesn't tie to Gadget's key?
And if I want it to show me the key of Bb, doesn't seem like it can do that? Only different modal keys of C?
Changing Scale... The manual says holding Shift & Scale- or Scale+, that the keys should light up to give you feedback, but I get no visual feedback when changing scale.
Midi Input... The options for Easy or Advanced go away, and it changes to "Auto Mapping" when the nanoKey is connected. This kills the ability to have multiple controllers routed to different instruments, prevents using it in a multi player band setup.
Huh? Thought this thing was "plug and play" insofar as Gadget's concerned.. Good to know.
External midi clock only works with hard wire connection.
Key can be changed in semi tones with shift/tap buttons and octave buttons.
Scale guide must be lit to show lighted scale.
Don't understand what what you mean by Easy or Advanced go away.
To get Bb, set scale to major and set key to Bb. Scale list is in manual.
It really is @Telstar5. It requires reading the manual though, to understand all the functions because there is no screen.
I'm finally getting time this weekend to dig in to this keyboard.
From what I can tell, updating the scale in Gadget will update the Easy Scale on the nanoKEYStudio, but you do need to manually change the key on the nanoKEYStudio, unless I'm missing something. Easy to do, but seems strange that both the scale and key changes in Gadget don't update on the nanoKEYStudio.
I haven't read the manual yet, and haven't even had a chance to try out the editor to adjust velocity, chords, etc., but so far I'm really liking this.
Thanks by the way. Sorry for delayed response!
I imagine this refers to easy (control just one gadget at a time) or advanced (send midi to multiple gadgets) which is a setting in Gadgets settings dropdown.
This would be a concern for me. I'd want to be able to play, say, a lead while assigning one knob on the NanoKeyStudio to modulate the cc of a bassline playing in another gadget.
Otherwise, to be honest, I might as well just use Gadget on the iPad screen which I find fine to play.
Controlling multiple gadget parameters at a time would be one of the major reasons I'd invest in the NanoKeyStudio.
I think nanoKontrol Studio would be more suited for this Matt. I use the nanokey and nanokontrol in combination. NanoKontrol gives you full control of 8 gadgets.
Thanks. So NanoKontrol lets you get in an assign knobs to different Gadget synths? (Not just the volume faders and pan?)
Hi @Seangarland / anyone else who knows,
So when you say:
"The Chord Function alongside the Smart Scale allows you to use the grey keys ("black keys" in actual piano parlance) as chords, and play the "white" keys in a scale. As a middling music theory guy, this makes it very easy to play some accompaniment along with some hack lead melody. This feature will change the way I think about writing songs, which is something I always welcome."
Is it the case that the chords and lead must, however, be played on the SAME gadget? (If jamming around 'live').
Again, that would be a bit of a shame IMO...
Maybe the NanoKeySoftware lets you configure different functions and knobs to different midi channels and then the work around is to somehow NOT connect it to Gadget in 'auto Gadget native sync' mode (or whatever it's called).
That's how the old Nanos work with iElectribe. In iElectribe you can switch off native mode and just use the Nano as a normal midi controller.
Sadly/strangely the manual has no mention at all of Gadget!
But I reckon it would be probably/hopefully be possible to connect it to Gadget via normal virtual midi and then have different functions send on different channels to different gadgets - bypassing the native Gadget mode (if that only let's you send to one Gadget at a time).
I dunno guys...I feel a bit guilty but I quite dislike this controller. For me it all boils down to the build quality. I didn't expect much but this seems a bit worse. I can't stand the computer key sound/feel on the keys, the kaosspad feels very cheap and strange, and the drumpads seem to have very little sensitivity. I have to say that it distracts me more than inspires me. I really want to like this but I can't at the moment. I'll give it one more shot but I'm not holding my breath.
I'm not trying to hate here, just giving my honest opinion to inform people on the fence.
A question regarding the sensitivity of the drum pads. Have you used the editor software to configure those? I haven't yet, but I suspect I will very soon, as they are a bit "stiff" by default out of the box.
From what I've read, you can set up 8 different scenes for different configurations, which I'll need to do. In some cases I'll want full on/off velocity of keys, but for piano tracks I might want more flexibility there.
Hi Sean! No, I haven't tried the editor. Duh such an obvious idea that I totally didn't think of. Thanks!
I found that some people put "o"-rings on the bottom of their computer keys to soften the clickey(?) sound. I just might open the Nanokey up to see what I can do!
I asked KORG if they had any plans to create an iOS editor app, and they said they've considered it. I'm not holding my breath, as I imagine they wouldn't make any money from that endeavor. But, it would be great to have a standalone editor rather than plugging into a PC.
Wow, props to Korg for an honest reply! Thanks @Seangarland
@TGiG i appreciate your criticisms, the keys are apparently just as not-to-my-liking as they look.
you can send SysEx to it from the iPad to load different configurations. It wouldn't be too hard to make a TB MIDI Stuff panel with some buttons that sent different configurations when clicked.
I think an upcoming version of TB MIDI Stuff will have better support for SysEx such as SysEx dumps. At that point you could probably build a full editor.
Nice! That's very cool, thanks!
That sounds like something above my current level of intelligence, but certainly worth some research. I have TB Midi Stuff, so I'll look into it!
After receiving mine, and playing with if for an hour, a lot of my fears are allayed.
The build quality is very good for what you would expect in this price range. The keys are velocity sensitive enough for expression. The pads are stiff, but not as stiff on the AKAI MPK 25 I have. the knobs are smooth.
Lately, I've been coming home from the studio, and I'm too lazy to set up my M-Audio. This is exactly what I need for when I'm home in the evening away from my studio. I feel like I can work on loose ends with this device quite nicely.
BTW, the Gadget integration is really only halfway, for example, there are redundancies in the knob assignments for dublin.
Firing up the editor software for the first time, my head is spinning. This is not my cup of tea, this sort of thing.
Can someone help me to understand setting the velocity of the pads? I was under the impression that I could set different sensitivities for different scenes, but I only seem to be able to make a Global change?
Very confused.
Wait till you fire it up in Ableton. Playing in Chords in different scales with it is a very very nice touch.
I'm glad you brought that up. I can't get my macbook air to see the nanoKEY on bluetooth. Can you?
Also, the closest analogy for keys are typewriter keys mashed up with spongy video game buttons. It's not as bad as it sounds.