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Song of the Month Club - September 2016

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  • edited September 2016

    @Bluepunk said:
    @orchardman Enjoying your "upping of fuzz" here. Drives your classic sounding song through & adds another style to your repertoire. Still waiting for that "Banshees" bash ;)
    Any tune that begins with four hat clicks, warms my cockles. What sticks out rhythm wise, is the main beat. The snare sounds slightly behind the music. More noticeable in certain phrases & as I've mentioned this before, it has to be on purpose. Some well timed & sounding fills in that classic way. Can hear you're playing your guitar loud n proud. Contrasts the quieter verses to allow your wife to take over with her usual top of the class vocal display.

    Are there any FX on her voice? Didn't feel as full this time although in no way detracted from this being a fine tune/listen. Decent weather is fading fast down here....time for another orchardman musical channeling sesh. :)

    @Bluepunk thanks for the great feedback as always. I'm afraid I can't claim any credit for the rhythm, I think it just might be slightly out of time playing.

    As for the guitars, it is always a compromise between the loud stuff I want and writing something that suits my wife's vocal style. Funnily enough I am working on something at the moment where I have come up with a great rock riff but I can't see any way to turn it into a song that my wife can sing.

    For the vocals, we are still experimenting and sometimes they turn out better than others. The effects are all Waves plugins that I have 'acquired' over the years and to be honest I don't really know what half of them do.

    Most importantly the weather, well I'm afraid I given up there as well and we are flying back out to Spain for week to get the last of the sun. :D :D

  • @technemedia said:
    Different Drummer recorded (collab with Flo26) into Logic:

    Is supposed to have a laid back saxophone as when we played this live at South Next...but I used a chill flute on this.

    I really like this, and I mean that, but I really want the backing to be louder. Some of the atmosphere is lost because it's too low. But I love the vibe. Love a bit of spoken word madness (mc900ft Jesus, big fan of his) and so for me the phone bit at the end works in a jarring way, but with a good dose of humour. I like it a lot as it is, bring the music up a bit and I love it.

  • @Igneous1 said:
    @crouchie
    Well you're certainly channeling your 'inner Dave' with this one ! I really like it, but (as usual) I have some observations:
    The voice is too dry, in my view and too low in the mix. The drums are a tad too frenetic relative to the tempo of the voice and the instrumentation and the drum breaks a tad long (more of an opinion with this one) and I'm not too wild about the outro section, I felt it dragged a tad.

    All in all though, a great track !

    Thank you. Always struggle getting the vocal to sit right, take your point entirely. Can't help overdoing the beats, it's like a safety blanket...

  • @orchardman said:

    @crouchie said:

    sorry didn't comment last month, real life taking over. new tune. i literally cannot tolerate my voice any higher in the mix than this. brings me out in hives. seem to be channeling my inner david sylvian here. thanks for listening and comments, will do my duty v soon.

    @crouchie great song with a really nice vocal performance. I thought the arrangement got a little too fussy particularly in the chorus towards the end, there just seemed to be too much going on for me. As for the mix, I don't think it's a case of the vocal needing to be higher but a case of turning some of the instruments down especially the drums and the bass in the chorus. There's loads of really interesting things going on but sometimes I think they can be a distraction from the song itself. Of course it's probably just me being old and out of touch :D

    Nonsense! Thanks for the comments, much appreciated.

  • @trackedout said:

    I'm really starting to warm to your stuff. I like the chaotic, warbling psychedelica that at times sounds a bit too messy, and then resolves into something dreamy and solid. I like this one best out of what I've heard so far. Again I'm not entirely convinced about the mix, but it's growing on me and the song has a real charm that wins me over. Nice one.

  • @marliess said:
    Here's my baby for the month This tune is about eating/loving junk food and not giving a rats what anyone else thinks. Guitars via tonestack, bass via flux.fx play, drums from diode108 (scratchy bits were mixed with caramel). This is also my first collaborative tune...my 8yo daughter, who's been learning piano for 4 months, banged out some piano as she was listening to this and i thought 'what the hell', and recorded her in via cubasis (panned right in final verse/outro). Hope you enjoy it.

    There is much to love about this track, and of course your daughter's input is at the top of that list. Got a great vibe and sense of humour. I think it could just go a bit quicker, and with the vocal effects I would prefer them being a bit drier cos I think they get lost at times. The lyrics are very strong and are the centre piece of the song and I felt like I couldn't always make them out. It is a great track as it is though, I'm only talking little bits, not major issues. Great stuff, well done.

  • @richardyot said:
    Wayyyyy behind on my reviews due to the crazy circumstances in my life right now, but this is my entry for the month.

    Lyrics in the spoiler:

    Time
    Flow through me
    So patiently
    Moss covering stones
    Ashes made from bones

    Time
    The centuries
    Their memories
    Lost lingering dust
    A cradle caked in rust

    So People live
    And then they die
    And time will give
    Then will deny

    Time
    Eternal line
    Endless chime
    Echoes in my mind
    Waiting for a sign

    Time
    So unkind
    It's eyes are blind
    Devouring you alive

    So People live
    And then they die
    And time will give
    Then will deny
    A fight you won't survive

    Like it, nice change to use the heavy vocal effect. For the most part it works very well, and if you're going to alter vocals I feel it should be laid on thick just as you have. The instrumental break works really well, and for me shows how you could take this forward cos I reckon you could use that breathy pad much more throughout and make it a properly dreamy tune. I mean it's great as it is, but it could be bloody good I reckon. Great stuff

  • @richardyot said:
    @crouchie really love this one, great choice of sounds and really interesting arrangement and composition. Vocal melody is top-notch, voice sounds great and doesn't need to go any higher in the mix!

    The musical backing behind the voice works really well, and feels vey unusual and original to me, with the sparse sounds and the repeating synth sounds and almost FX-like patches.

    Thanks as ever, v kind of you, am aiming for vocal, sparse production and squeaky noises if I can! Cheers

  • @crony said:
    Well...Same track from last month but with a new camera and some improvements in arrangements, hope you'll like it ! :)

    Ah Nic, you know my thoughts. Love this even more with the filthy 303 at the end, a sound of which I will never tire! I have terminal kit envy as ever. Love the tune. More!

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    An odd month of real life in all its unreal circumstances, but just realized I am off early tomorrow morning to the Maine woods until October (where hopefully I will find another song hiding beneath rocks etc.). In the meantime here's some doggerel brought on, in part, by thinking about nurture vs nature (that old thing...).

    Life in Fuckery

    Little Cathy Vickery was born
    in Fuckery and lived her life
    in the middle of the suckery
    where she fell beneath the sway
    of some landed knobbery, even got
    cut to help out with the snobbery
    but then the joker got hoppity
    and all on toppity, kept in with
    the jiggery but never stopped to
    figgery the cost of all his pokery
    a baby made him jokery before he
    got fidgety and turned into the
    midgety, so she had the bastard
    charged with unwanted buggery
    receiving from villains and other
    base thuggery, then she bore her
    baby hoggily cursing men groggily:
    "Listen my lovely daughtery this
    is how it oughta be, before they
    take their hoppery get a hold of
    all their coppery and put it in
    your pockery or they'll only make
    a mockery of what was said before
    the jumpery when they lusted
    for your pumpery; remember for their
    foolery there must always be first
    jewellery." Wisely now was she in
    the ways of the womanly,
    little Cathy Vickery who was
    born in Fuckery...

    I think that works perfectly to be honest (don't like the vocal effect, is it a slapback delay? But I realise I usually complain about that. And no, there's nothing wrong with your voice). The lyrics are very clever, very well paced and very well delivered. Yep, really like this one!

  • @ToMess said:
    Made this quick one yesterday. Put it together from start to finish in like 3 hours and didnt do any final mastering or anything like that on it(sounded crappy on iphone earbuds, but good on speakers and studio headphones):

    Used poison 202, howl, impaktor and pow wow loops(funny free app with some native american loops) on ipad and alaturka drums and bias on computer. And ofc studiomux to route stuff to ableton.

    Really like those toms, really carry this forward, very nice. Would like those synths to scream and distort even more, be a bit higher in the mix. Works for me though, and I do like the vocal sample. Great stuff.

  • Let's go!

    @studs1966, liked the intro hats a lot. The vocal melody reminds me of Joan Baez: Auntie Vanessa can sing! Nice song, congrats!

    @MonzoPro, this is the month of the intros, it seems: what a nice intro you pulled out with this song! Elephant Circles suits the song well as a name: like a thousand of elephants stepping hard and sometimes screaming. Enjoyed it: very powerful driving rhythm.

    @LostBoy85, great vocal work as usual. The piano in the intro (yes, another song with a nice intro) sounds very good and clean. The chord progressions for the pre choruses and choruses reminds me of Radiohead's ballads: because of this, I'm expecting the song to go off in a powerful rock riff at any minute, lol. Enjoyed this song as well: congrats!

    @orchardman: loved that melodic guitar solo that starts the song. Your wife's vocal work is great, as usual. The chorus is catchy. Is it Kyle I hear on the drums? Good job!

    @technemedia, nice spoken word piece. Some good, well placed haunting sounds. Particularly those water drop sounds, very appropriate and well choses/designed. The voice is yours or Flo's?

  • @crouchie, definitely the month of intros: that synth riff is awesome. The beat is driving, and I like how it pauses again for a laid back first verse. Good vocal work, and would be even nicer if the vocal more in the front of the mix, but I'm more than aware that in electronic music it's not always suitable. Those beats, very good indeed!

    @trackedout, quite peculiar song and mix. As a fan of 90's alternative rock, I enjoyed it much, even though I sometimes don't understand much of what's said. Loved the raw bass tone throughout. Why did it end so abruptly? Though the whistled melody was a really nice touch!

    @marliess, great mix. Professional grade, I cannot find a single flaw! Good song, and I particularly liked the clean delayed rhythm guitar. Good arrangement of a song that doesn't rely that much in harmonic ("chordal") movement: you found a way to keep it interesting all the time. Congrats indeed!

    @richardyot, loved the melody and the vocal harmonies. Didn't feel the same love for the drums, that seemed to do fills kind of randomly. The guitar melodies are good, and the electric piano was a nice addition. Your vocal work was very good with this one. Great work.

    @JohnnyGoodyear, good little spoken word piece. Just piano and voice: very cool!

    @ToMess, this one has (surprise!) a nice intro, and a Nine Inch Nails (or perhaps Ministry) feel that I like a lot. The drums are really great and the rhythm has a powerful drive. Enjoyed the guitar work as well: congratulations!

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    This article, somewhat about Nick Cave and written by Amanda Palmer, may not be for everyone, but some of it is or should be if you think at all about writing songs...

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/sep/10/nick-cave-skeleton-tree

    Experience, feel the pain, picture it then go write about it, draw it, shape it through your chosen art, (or did it choose you) can be very therapeutic. Nick Cave is a master craftsman.
    Missed this first time around. Thanks for posting.

  • @Bluepunk said:
    @marliess From "My Sherona" last time to My fat belly, in this outing. A lot lighter in feel but equally as heavy in terms of vocals. A compliment. Excellent job with the lyrics & particulary how you've delivered them. Lots of planning & thought must have gone into this. My favourite is how you say "guacamole." Fits in so well.

    Enough praise for you sir. Of course, your daughter deserves the lions share of the applause. Nice one on getting the young ones involved & taking part in your craft. She will be advising you soon. Good luck with all that! :)

    Relaxed, flowing music that has just enough funk feel to maintain the foot tapping throughout. Very good song highlighted by your daughters perfect piano playing. :)

    Thanks Bluepunk. I love the enthusiasm i see in all your feedback to SOTMC, it makes me want to go make more music!

  • @crouchie said:
    There is much to love about this track, and of course your daughter's input is at the top of that list. Got a great vibe and sense of humour. I think it could just go a bit quicker, and with the vocal effects I would prefer them being a bit drier cos I think they get lost at times. The lyrics are very strong and are the centre piece of the song and I felt like I couldn't always make them out. It is a great track as it is though, I'm only talking little bits, not major issues. Great stuff, well done.

    Thanks crouchie, appreciate the feedback. I think JohnnyG mentioned the tempo also. My workflow is usually to work out a tempo that fits the main riff right at thr begiining, then program the strucure via the drums at that tempo. Sometimes i get towards the end of a track and think 'damn! ...shoulda gone faster / slower etc', but I'm usually too far in to turn back. I might try the new cubasis timestretch thingy next time this happens. Thanks again for having a listen.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    An odd month of real life in all its unreal circumstances, but just realized I am off early tomorrow morning to the Maine woods until October (where hopefully I will find another song hiding beneath rocks etc.). In the meantime here's some doggerel brought on, in part, by thinking about nurture vs nature (that old thing...).

    Johnny, I had a good chuckle listening to this one. After i heard fuckery and knobbery in the early parts of the song, I thought, 'geez i hope there's some buggery in this one', and bamn!, there it was. Amazing how much narrative you fitted in in a minute and a bit. You also got a 'what the fuck is that?!' out of my wife when she heard the first line of the song. Very enjoyable.

  • @ToMess said:
    Made this quick one yesterday. Put it together from start to finish in like 3 hours and didnt do any final mastering or anything like that on it(sounded crappy on iphone earbuds, but good on speakers and studio headphones):

    Epic drums that sit really well in the mix. Chants were cool, could maybe be a touch louder. Sounded really good through my headphones production wise. Awesome job getting so much done in 3 hours too (quickest I've finished a tune is a week), great nod to committing to tones rather than fucking around endlessly with amp/fx models as I'm sometimes prone to doing.

  • @crony said:
    Well...Same track from last month but with a new camera and some improvements in arrangements, hope you'll like it ! :)

    Dude, i know nothing about electronic music and very little about hardware, but that is seriously impressive. With the mask and all the gear you're like a musical Avenger! Really enjoyed the groove and progressive changes in arrangement, and the fact you can do all this single handed, while having a boogie and, as if that weren't enough, filming the whole thing too!

  • @theconnactic said:
    @marliess, great mix. Professional grade, I cannot find a single flaw! Good song, and I particularly liked the clean delayed rhythm guitar. Good arrangement of a song that doesn't rely that much in harmonic ("chordal") movement: you found a way to keep it interesting all the time. Congrats indeed!

    Hey theconnactic, thanks for having a listen and also your positive comments about the mix. Ive been really trying to get my head (and ears) around mixing and eq this year, so its great to get feedback from folks such as youself who really know this stuff :smile:

  • edited September 2016

    Question @everyone: the only music I've been able to write this month are some shitty quality guitar tracks for a new song that I'm writing. Would you rather listen to that and critique what I currently have OR listen to an entire album that I wrote earlier this year?

    My reviews will be coming soon, thank you!

  • @TGiG said:
    Question @everyone: the only music I've been able to write this month are some shitty quality guitar tracks for a new song that I'm writing. Would you rather listen to that and critique what I currently have OR listen to an entire album that I wrote earlier this year?

    You should only post one song a month, so an album is out of the question. For the people that take time to post reviews going through all the submissions takes a lot of time and effort, which is why we have to limit the submissions to one per month per contributor.

  • Duh Song of the Month Club! I'm so sorry for the stupid question!

  • edited September 2016

    @studs1966 nice ideas, samples are not very accurate sometimes, and a proper mix should help. I can barely hearing bass for instance !

    @MonzoPro crazy beat ! Like the ambiance, maybe a bit long with that kind of heavy variations ? Maybe a bit overcharged sometimes ?
    And YES, I'm having good fun with all this, I wish I could play more with it...Takes ages to make a track...Recording videos is forcing me to also record sound properly and takes care of the all performance, hopefully, it'll improve...

    @LostBoy85 sweet ballad, nice piano and very nice voice, not really my cup of tea, but well done !

    @orchardman hmm, not my cup of tea sorry...To my hears the drums are too slow, the voice is clean but don't like the producing of it. Mix is very flat.

    @theconnactic nice production, more jazz bossa fusion to me, with a zappa break inside. It's too much different harmonies for my (little) brain...

    @technemedia hmm, well, nice ambiance, but I like to dance... ;)

    @crouchie ah ! Paul, you know I do like your productions, still the case here :) Getting better every time !

    @trackedout sorry the quality is too low-fi for me.

    @marliess original stuff ! Like the drums, voice is funny, maybe too heavy delay. The P-funk bass style suits me. I'd like to hear more !
    Thanks for your comment, I should have used 2 cameras on this take, but it crashed...I was bored of recording again, but I think it's a good way to catch your mistakes...And there's a lot !!!!

    @richardyot hmm, not crazy of the voice, the whole looks like a bit quickly made. Maybe it's about the mixing ?

    @JohnnyGoodyear nice poem, nice voice, I'd like to hear your Gandalf voice into a movie :)

    @ToMess nice production, but I'm definitely not into heavy metal, even mixed with indians !

  • @crony said:

    @MonzoPro crazy beat ! Like the ambiance, maybe a bit long with that kind of heavy variations ? Maybe a bit overcharged sometimes ?

    >

    Thanks matey. It was knocked off quick, and live but yeah I need to pull my socks up a bit music wise as I'm doing the same old mad noises every month. Even I'm getting fed up with them. I'll try something different for next months thing.

  • @Bluepunk said:
    @theconnactic Another unique offering Dimitri. A master class of twisting, bending & chewing up new notes/chords into something new & exciting...obscure. There is always a tune, a structure to grab hold of but I love the way you play with that & travel down a musical direction that screws with what I'm expecting to hear. When you hoick the tempo up at 1.35, you took me into Rush territory. Brilliant playing & your timing for such complicated finger picking is spot on.

    You continue pushing guitar boundaries & when you step over that line, (it seems, without breaking into a sweat) it is a joy to experience. One note of sadness from here...... I miss your title explanations. :)

    Thank you for the review, @Bluepunk: not only for the compliments, but also for the good reading it was, as usual.

    Also, since you mentioned - and I'm glad you did! - here's a taste of how I name my songs: this one started insidious, soft but worrisome, like a leakage of a dangerous fluid (0-45''). Then it becomes a little more nasty: like the fluid was starting to pool, and the danger became apparent (46''-1'33''). Then it went off, exploding in a burst of speed and urgency: the flames were burning out of control, they needed to be subdued (1'34''-2'20''). Afterwards, it dies down, for all turned to ashes and the thick smoke that followed (2'21''-3'07''). And, finally, all that remained was a haunting memory of what things used to be before the conflagration (3'08''-3'34''). So, "Inflamável" (inflammable) it was. Usually, for me, the name follows the subjective mood of the sections and their objective pace, and the rather abstract relationships between them - I like titles based on mental pictures the song evokes, rather than the musical structure or harmonic progressions or modal content or whatever: you'll hardly see a "Sonata in Something-Minor" coming from me.

    All the best!

  • @richardyot said:
    @theconnactic quirky and quite disjointed this one, I think the second half works better than the first for me. The track jumps very suddenly into the faster-paced section from the slower intro sections, and then back into the slower part with the eerie melody. The outro is my favourite bit, that has a lovely spooky feel to it, but the tune does leave me wondering a little what you were trying to say with it.

    The answer to the question that left you wondering is in my post before this one. Glad you liked the outro, it's one of my favorites!

  • @theconnactic said:

    @Bluepunk said:
    @theconnactic Another unique offering Dimitri. A master class of twisting, bending & chewing up new notes/chords into something new & exciting...obscure. There is always a tune, a structure to grab hold of but I love the way you play with that & travel down a musical direction that screws with what I'm expecting to hear. When you hoick the tempo up at 1.35, you took me into Rush territory. Brilliant playing & your timing for such complicated finger picking is spot on.

    You continue pushing guitar boundaries & when you step over that line, (it seems, without breaking into a sweat) it is a joy to experience. One note of sadness from here...... I miss your title explanations. :)

    Thank you for the review, @Bluepunk: not only for the compliments, but also for the good reading it was, as usual.

    Also, since you mentioned - and I'm glad you did! - here's a taste of how I name my songs: this one started insidious, soft but worrisome, like a leakage of a dangerous fluid (0-45''). Then it becomes a little more nasty: like the fluid was starting to pool, and the danger became apparent (46''-1'33''). Then it went off, exploding in a burst of speed and urgency: the flames were burning out of control, they needed to be subdued (1'34''-2'20''). Afterwards, it dies down, for all turned to ashes and the thick smoke that followed (2'21''-3'07''). And, finally, all that remained was a haunting memory of what things used to be before the conflagration (3'08''-3'34''). So, "Inflamável" (inflammable) it was. Usually, for me, the name follows the subjective mood of the sections and their objective pace, and the rather abstract relationships between them - I like titles based on mental pictures the song evokes, rather than the musical structure or harmonic progressions or modal content or whatever: you'll hardly see a "Sonata in Something-Minor" coming from me.

    All the best!

    Thanks for the detailed info Dimitri. Very interesting. Telling a story without words is testament not only to your obvious musical skills, its deeper than that. It's the powerful feeling you inject into each musical chapter. I'm with you, the mental picture, the feel it in your soul ache, can make perfect title choices.

    Next month, I will listen intently to your new tune and see if I can feel your subject/story through your music. I know, I'm a sad bastard but if you're taking the time to write a story, I will try to read it. Cheers. :)

  • @marliess said:
    Epic drums that sit really well in the mix. Chants were cool, could maybe be a touch louder. Sounded really good through my headphones production wise. Awesome job getting so much done in 3 hours too (quickest I've finished a tune is a week), great nod to committing to tones rather than fucking around endlessly with amp/fx models as I'm sometimes prone to doing.

    @crony said:
    nice production, but I'm definitely not into heavy metal, even mixed with indians !

    @MonzoPro said:
    I like this, obtuse rhtyms that brink to mind King Crimson - prog & bass? I'll have to checkout that native american thing too.

    Thanks guys :)

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