iPhone 7 No headphone jack │ How will this affect iOS musicians - haQ VLog 107

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@Lacm1993 said:
Anyone actually gonna give it a try?
And the airpods?. I get the felling that regular tech reviewers won't be covering latency.

Guinea pigs to the front. ^^

it also works on older devices so its not bluetooth 5

who knows whats going on?

AndyPlankton

Maybe they're backwards compatable

Lacm1993

@lala said:

@Lacm1993 said:
Anyone actually gonna give it a try?
And the airpods?. I get the felling that regular tech reviewers won't be covering latency.

Guinea pigs to the front. ^^

it also works on older devices so its not bluetooth 5

who knows whats going on?

It might be bluetooth 5, Bluetooth has always been backwards compatible (I think) with older versions, without the new features obviously, but the most important thing is that Apple it's taking control of both devices and it's with their own solution based on Bluetooth. The problem it's that if it's low latency it might only work with the iPhone 7 as it might be something special on its hardware.

I could upgrade but I don't care about the iPhone, for making music I prefer the iPad, i have a 6, that was given to me, otherwise I would still be carrying around an iPhone 5 with no problems. I might try the airpods myself when the new IPads are released next year.

lovadamusic

@Fruitbat1919 said:
@lovadamusic

I'm disagreeing with your first statement, but to discuss that would have just taken off topic. The fact you don't see a disagreement is well, whatever it is.

No need to just like, hate or be indifferent. Discussion of what Apple have done and any possible ramifications can be done without those, so yes, we can try to understand what is going on or what this means for the future. Exactly what is being done. Not sure why you are telling me this? This is what I am doing, discussing how the removal of the jack could possibly affect future Apple products and users. Looking at past examples of the one socket approach and what it would mean to many if this approach was expanded throughout other products in the ranges.

If you think that my representation of the one socket approach is wrong, or that the possible future ramifications are wrong, then discuss why. I get the feeling from the points you pick up on, that you think I'm just a moaning Apple hater or some such thing. Why do I think this? I think this because you never discuss the main points I'm making. In this discussion, you have not discussed the possible ramifications of a single port ideal at all. You have just picked up on areas where words such as Pro can be used to mean different things, yet in my initial comment made it quite clear that was the case.

So, I apologise if I just don't understand the way you express yourself. I just don't get why you say what you are saying most of the time. You seem to be stating things as if my comments are in conflict with what you are saying, yet I am really struggling to see where. So I'm going to be honest and say that my initial impression of discussion with yourself, is that you just want to be disagreeable for the sake of. Now Instead, I'm just going to apologise that I really struggle to follow what you are saying and how you express yourself.

Wish you the best in all your meanderings in Audiobus land.

Yes, apparently, we disagree that making money is the measure of success for Apple (not just now but in the future) and that's really an important consideration if we’re evaluating what they do and why they do it. But if we’re not discussing that because it’s off topic, then I see no real disagreement. Much of what I say is about the head phone jack discussion everywhere, not just here or you personally. I haven’t said anything about the “one socket” approach because I really don’t know where Apple’s going with that, and I don’t care to speculate.

BiancaNeve

For those wondering if the dongle includes a DAC

It definitely does.

DeVlaeminck

You've got great eyes.

[Deleted User]

Some reports around are suggesting a slight loss in quality from using the external 3.5mm socket over the 6s inbuilt socket.

Durwin99

Responding to comments made earlier (sorry, playing catchup in the UK!) I remember reading on some technical website recently that the DAC in the recent iPhones (and presumably iPads) is measurably of a very good quality, but it's the amp section for the headphones output that isn't great. I think great DACs can now be made on a tiny chip but perhaps not the amp section, but surely there must be one somewhere in that external adapter that BiancaNeve posted a picture of...! Also, for us (still) Europeans, we also get the joyous EU regulated volume limiter (on iPhones only) through the headphone socket, but I believe not through the Lightning port - I wonder what has happened to that on the iPhone 7?

srcer

@Fruitbat1919 said:
Some reports around are suggesting a slight loss in quality from using the external 3.5mm socket over the 6s inbuilt socket.

Igneous1

Interesting review by the Guardian (who, usually are certified Apple fan-boys !)
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/23/iphone-7-review-poor-battery-life

"The iPhone 7 will be remembered for Apple killing the headphone jack. Straight up: the removal of the 3.5mm headphone socket is not a good thing. It makes it harder to use the phone with conventional headphones and it seems unnecessary."

BiancaNeve

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fuze-cases-bringing-back-the-audio-jack-iphone-headphones#/

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@BiancaNeve said:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fuze-cases-bringing-back-the-audio-jack-iphone-headphones#/

That seems quite a good design. All this making everything so bloomin' thin is pretty pants. I would choose something that has sockets and extra battery life over thinness seemingly for thinness sake any day of the week.