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Be nice if @Rim implemented that app into Auria Pro. Instead of using a controller keyboard, you can use your voice to input your IAA/ AU Units. It would make it easier for people who sometimes have difficulty in knowing the Keyborad chords, ect....... maybe easier foe Guitarists?.......... Another Fantastic app by @Rim.
I have both, they are different. Microwarmer does some very interesting things, I love it on a drum bus. The vintage warmer on desktop is multi band, micro is single band, but they both get awesome results.
Kewl to put a face to the name!
Good to hear about the AU update for Auria. That was a glaring omission, in my opinion. I beat up Auria Pro pretty bad in another thread discussing my appreciation for Cubasis, but the reality is that I own both, so I'm happy to have it be an open competition as to which one works for me. Auria Pro is clearly the more powerful overall package, but I'm not really a "power user".
I got auria pro at the last sales , but i found it not very intuitive to get synth midi out compared to cubasis or MTS ...Hope the next update Will simplify this with the AU addition
Thank you! I sometimes use Vintage Warmer as well when mixing in studios other than mine, but I confess I'm biased against using it in my own studio since, well, Fabfilters. I'll give Microwarmer a go, and perhaps its big brother get another chance from me as well.
Another vote for Microwarmer.
I'm waiting for a PSP sale. I've been waiting a while......... I have the Fab Filters, so I don't need Microwarmer, but man do I want it!
Wow - you can do chords with your voice?! (Just joking of course...)
I'm new to the forum... what is "psp"? And do most app go on sale around x-mas?
PSP is a software company based in Poland, they masks some of the IAP plugins in auria as well as the built in channel strips. They do really good work.
And don't wait for a psp sale, microwarmer is $15, right? I use it on every mix for the drum bus, sometimes on the master, sometimes on individual instruments. Definitely on the drum bus every time though.
They are also the creators of the ubiquitous Desktop limiter and saturation VST plug-in, the Vintage Warmer.
I don't have auria pro yet, I mainly record on cubasis then export to my desktop. If I were to start mastering on iOS.. what type of headphones would you suggest? I have the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Heaphones. They're ok. What could I get in the $200 price range? I was looking at the beyerdynamic dt 770's. What do you think? Auria pro is definitely on my wish list now. I would need some decent monitoring headphones to do the app any justice.
There some special magic sauce in microwarmer, hard to explain but easy to hear.
@johnn, mixing with headphones is tricky by nature for a series of reasons, so you need the best, most transparent headphones you can afford. I honestly think that, for this specific purpose, you would be throwing $200 in the trash by spending $200, so I'd say keep your Audio Technica and have always good reference material for A/B checking.
Now, if you have $500 to fork, by all means go for the Sennheiser HD650. I have these, and I'd say they are sometimes more reliable than most ported nearfield speakers, and have a better bass response than the ubiquitous NS10 speakers. You'll need good reference material anyway.
All the best!
Man, that vid is cool. Rim's early steps into iOS coding. As cool as it is, what a humble step towards something ambitious as Auria.
For producing and mastering on a budget I would recommend getting "decent headphones + decent monitors" over getting "fantastic headphones" only.
I beg to differ, @brambos.
Problem is, IMHO, decent monitors tend to cost almost as much as fantastic headphones, because few ported monitors are reliable in my experience, and also - write it down and repeat it everyday as a mantra, because it's a cosmic truth - "you should invest as much in your room as in your speakers to get reliable mixing decisions". (lol)
Hi-end heaphones take the room out of the equation. I think it's a sensible purchase when possible.
What happened to the old adagio of "never mix on headphones" then? At least that's what people with more experience than I'll ever have always taught me.
I think there are some perfectly affordable monitors out there that will get the job done for people who are not aspiring to be making a living doing full-time music production.
Anyway.. just throwing in my €0.02
I can't speak for @brambos but I'd speculate what he was getting at is that it's better to just get decent and not high-end to mix with, because if you're using state of the art, you're mixing for a delivery system that most people won't be using. Better to mix to output more inline with what listeners will be using?
That being said, I think the ATH-m50x are too enhanced for playback to use as neutral monitors. The ATH-m40x headphones are supposed to be flatter and more neutral with less bass. That's what I have, but I find them uncomfortable and hot to wear for long stretches.
I'm looking into the Senneheiser HD25 cans, more for field recording, but I bet they'd make decent reference too.
Of course! With headphones, regardless of quality, stereo imaging will always be tricky like, in fact, everything else. Actually, didn't I start my advice to @johnn with this disclaimer exactly, @brambos?
Here's an adagio for you as well, by mr. Mike Senior - I'm not sure he is the author though: "Approach any budged ported speaker with a crucifix and garlic!"
Thanks!
This is in fact a common mistake, and I dare to bet it was not what @brambos meant: the quality of the listening environment the final user will have has nothing to do with the quality of the environmnent you need to mix it right. Pushing it, I'd say the worst listening environment of the end listener is, the better your mixing environment need to be, so you really nail it, and the end listener get at list some of the magic.
okie-dokie
This of course, my personal perspective, based in my daily experience and some reading of the likes of Mike Senior and Bob Katz (and Bob would strongly advise against anything less than hi-end speakers plus hi-end subs in a hi-end good sized room). So take my words with a grain of salt.
I can't speak or profess anything from an expert point of view. Purely speculation on my part.
However, I can't get away from the fact that all sound is subjective. We all have different biological gearing apparatus, of all different levels of sensitivity and different ages, etc.
Then you throw into the mix how each person's brain handles the processing of the biological hearing systems differently. It's likely very few of us hear the same thing anyway.
Differences in quality and sensitivity to your biological hearing gear, and how old and abused that gear may be, make it nearly impossible to know what you're mixing is going to sound the same to another person as it does to you.
An audio engineer once told me that most of the impression a listener gets has much less to do with the sound delivery system or the listeners ears. Those two delivery and reception systems mostly function as reference data, and the real work was done in the brain.
Considering all this, it makes debate about different headphones or monitors a bit trivial. I think, or speculate that this is why you want something as flat and neutral as possible.
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Your friend engineer has some good points, but bear in mind it's not completely subjective. There are important differences in indivual anathomy, both in the ears and neurological, and more so in a psychological basis - yet there are known psychoacoustic phenomena that are not subjective at all, and will be felt more or less the same by any average human listener. One good example is the equal-loudness curves (imprecisely called "Fletcher-Munson"), and the Haas effect, and also the "Louder Is Better" effect that ruins the work of engineers who forget to loudness-match before applying processing.
I quote your last paragraph because it has an important mistake followed by a spot-on statement that is: we need as neutral as possible because this takes some uncertainty variables (end-user environment, anathomic differences etc.) out of the equation.
Again... okie-dokie.
And, is the "Munson" you reference the same as Roy Munson with the rubber hand from the movie Kingpin?
There are extremely experienced mixers who know their gear cold who can mix successfully on headphones. (I know Andrew Scheps has on occasion). The rest of us?
That being said, regularly comparing your mix against a reference track, and testing your mix on lots of devices can help you learn how to translate your headphones mixes to something that will work in the wide world. I really wish there was an iOS equivalent of Waves NS1.
Oh, and I can't wait for the Auria update: it's so cool to have such power on a mobile device!
Lol, @skiphunt. Not this, definitely. Nice movie!
Spot on, @Tovokas! @WaveMachineLabs could try a deal with Sonarworks for having their calibration plug-in as an Auria Plug-In: lots of users mix with with low-end and "decent" monitors and cans, and such a plug-in would facilitate a lot for so many, it's almost a no-brainer. If that happens some day, it's an insta-buy.