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Auria 2.06: AU support, IOS10 & MIDI keyboard! (EDIT: 2.07 and 2.08 updates with bug fixes!)

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  • http://therecordingrevolution.com/2016/02/08/the-day-iconic-mixer-andrew-scheps-ditched-his-console-for-a-laptop/

    An article about Scheps, and from it, an important quote for all of us iPad musicians and small studio owners:

    "The gear you mix on is not the bottleneck holding you back from sonic greatness. You are."

  • edited October 2016

    Just get a set of M-Audio BX5s if you're on a budget. If you've got a bit more cash and a decent mixing room, get KRK Rokit RP8s and you won't regret it.

    BX5s are more than good enough to get the job done at a professional level, as long as your listening space and placement is somewhat suitable. KRKs will have more detailed bass but need an acoustic listening space that can facilitate the appropriate volume level to get the best out of them. For a home setup or a place where volume could be an issue, BX5s might be preferable.

  • I have noticed that with iOS 10 that Auria volume is low through the iPad speakers,it reminds me when Rim fixed the Audio volume problem that iOS had.
    Anyone else having this problem

  • Probably. I'm on iOS9. Perhaps it will be solved with 2.06. But I'll stay put for a while.

  • @djjuniorpops said:
    I have noticed that with iOS 10 that Auria volume is low through the iPad speakers,it reminds me when Rim fixed the Audio volume problem that iOS had.
    Anyone else having this problem

    Yes the volume is way too low

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @djjuniorpops said:
    I have noticed that with iOS 10 that Auria volume is low through the iPad speakers,it reminds me when Rim fixed the Audio volume problem that iOS had.
    Anyone else having this problem

    Yes the volume is way too low

    Could this be due to iOS Audio Processing? I mean if you turn on minimal iOS processing in Moog Model 15 the speaker output is very low compared to when it is on...

  • @Samu said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @djjuniorpops said:
    I have noticed that with iOS 10 that Auria volume is low through the iPad speakers,it reminds me when Rim fixed the Audio volume problem that iOS had.
    Anyone else having this problem

    Yes the volume is way too low

    Could this be due to iOS Audio Processing? I mean if you turn on minimal iOS processing in Moog Model 15 the speaker output is very low compared to when it is on...

    Where is the setting for that?

  • In Auria: settings>Built-In Speaker/Mic Processing>Off (if it's already off, try turning it on).

  • @theconnactic said:
    In Auria: settings>Built-In Speaker/Mic Processing>Off (if it's already off, try turning it on).

    Can't see that option in settings. Which tab is it under?

  • @OscarSouth said:
    Just get a set of M-Audio BX5s if you're on a budget. If you've got a bit more cash and a decent mixing room, get KRK Rokit RP8s and you won't regret it.

    BX5s are more than good enough to get the job done at a professional level, as long as your listening space and placement is somewhat suitable. KRKs will have more detailed bass but need an acoustic listening space that can facilitate the appropriate volume level to get the best out of them. For a home setup or a place where volume could be an issue, BX5s might be preferable.

    Krk's rp8's are exactly the monitors that I have! I'm half way there :)! I just have to get auria :|

  • @theconnactic said:
    http://therecordingrevolution.com/2016/02/08/the-day-iconic-mixer-andrew-scheps-ditched-his-console-for-a-laptop/

    An article about Scheps, and from it, an important quote for all of us iPad musicians and small studio owners:

    "The gear you mix on is not the bottleneck holding you back from sonic greatness. You are."

    It sure is........I wish I knew how to fix that!

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @theconnactic said:
    In Auria: settings>Built-In Speaker/Mic Processing>Off (if it's already off, try turning it on).

    Can't see that option in settings. Which tab is it under?

    The first tab, 9th line, just under CoreAudio Mode.

  • @theconnactic said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @theconnactic said:
    In Auria: settings>Built-In Speaker/Mic Processing>Off (if it's already off, try turning it on).

    Can't see that option in settings. Which tab is it under?

    The first tab, 9th line, just under CoreAudio Mode.

    This is the page I have. I'm lost lol

  • edited October 2016

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @theconnactic said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @theconnactic said:
    In Auria: settings>Built-In Speaker/Mic Processing>Off (if it's already off, try turning it on).

    Can't see that option in settings. Which tab is it under?

    The first tab, 9th line, just under CoreAudio Mode.

    This is the page I have. I'm lost lol

    I don't have that setting either. But, my Auria was regular then upgraded to Pro. Wonder if there's a difference in Auria that was bought as Pro, and Auria upgraded to Pro?

  • No difference: I also upgrade to Pro from regular Auria. But since I know you both have iOS 10, I think it's part of the compatibility bug: I'm on iOS 9 and have the setting; you both have iOS 10 and don't. Wait for 2.06 and pray!

  • @theconnactic said:
    No difference: I also upgrade to Pro from regular Auria. But since I know you both have iOS 10, I think it's part of the compatibility bug: I'm on iOS 9 and have the setting; you both have iOS 10 and don't. Wait for 2.06 and pray!

    Waiting preying :)

  • Upgraded from auria to pro and...

  • Same here i don't have it either, was regular and upgrade to Pro, needs to be fixed.

  • Maybe Apple are just about to release Logic iOS and didn't want Auria getting too good ;)

  • No, folks: it's because you guys upgraded iOS to the last version without checking first if it would break your apps. It happens all the times with ProTools, Logic etc. when you upgrade OSX (now macOS).

    Auria and Auria Pro are not currently compatible with iOS10. A fix is under way and should arrive next week. By the way, this thread is all about this. :p

    Just sit tight.

  • @theconnactic said:
    No, folks: it's because you guys upgraded iOS to the last version without checking first if it would break your apps. It happens all the times with ProTools, Logic etc. when you upgrade OSX (now macOS).

    Auria and Auria Pro are not currently compatible with iOS10. A fix is under way and should arrive next week. By the way, this thread is all about this. :p

    Just sit tight.

    Yeah I'm only kidding :p i know it's on the way soon :)

  • Really hoping Auria will bounce and export AU with the right timing.

  • About which headphones: get a comfortable pair. For real. Really. Even if they sound shit you'll eventually get used to them referencing this to that. On the other hand, even if you find the "best" out there but you won't be able to wear them more than 1hr in a row you'll never be able to listen properly without thinking how those are hurting your ear pads. At least that's my experience

  • @mschenkel.it said:
    About which headphones: get a comfortable pair. For real. Really. Even if they sound shit you'll eventually get used to them referencing this to that. On the other hand, even if you find the "best" out there but you won't be able to wear them more than 1hr in a row you'll never be able to listen properly without thinking how those are hurting your ear pads. At least that's my experience

    Yes, yes, and yes. AKG 240's make me dizzy, my 7506's are super comfortable and I've been using them for 13 years. I got nice velvety earpads (there's a beyerdynamic set that fits the Sony headphones) a few years ago when the originals gave out, and I had to relearn them a little bit but very comfortable for hours now.

  • @sirdavidabraham said:
    Really hoping Auria will bounce and export AU with the right timing.

    Me too. With Cub2, i gave up using AU for now, despite still enjoying it as one of my main sketchpad (Garageband follows the closed garden paradigm to the letter and won't let me export stems without a tedious workaround).

  • @theconnactic said:

    @sirdavidabraham said:
    Really hoping Auria will bounce and export AU with the right timing.

    Me too. With Cub2, i gave up using AU for now, despite still enjoying it as one of my main sketchpad (Garageband follows the closed garden paradigm to the letter and won't let me export stems without a tedious workaround).

    For now I'm GarageBand -> iCloud Drive -> Logic Pro

  • @theconnactic said:
    http://therecordingrevolution.com/2016/02/08/the-day-iconic-mixer-andrew-scheps-ditched-his-console-for-a-laptop/

    An article about Scheps, and from it, an important quote for all of us iPad musicians and small studio owners:

    "The gear you mix on is not the bottleneck holding you back from sonic greatness. You are."

    Endlessly yes.

  • @johnn said:

    Krk's rp8's are exactly the monitors that I have! I'm half way there :)! I just have to get auria :|

    I have a pair of Rockit 5's at home. I do have a treated room, but I usually mix with my HD650's or in my current customers' studios (one have a pair of something Genelec, and the other three all have NS10, one of them has stereo subs, Adam if I'm not mistaken). I do stuff a pair of socks on the ports of the Rockits for a more reliable frequence response. A subwoofer is on its way, but I'm not in a hurry because of the HD650s.

  • @skiphunt said:

    @theconnactic said:
    This of course, my personal perspective, based in my daily experience and some reading of the likes of Mike Senior and Bob Katz (and Bob would strongly advise against anything less than hi-end speakers plus hi-end subs in a hi-end good sized room). So take my words with a grain of salt.

    I can't speak or profess anything from an expert point of view. Purely speculation on my part.

    However, I can't get away from the fact that all sound is subjective. We all have different biological gearing apparatus, of all different levels of sensitivity and different ages, etc.

    Then you throw into the mix how each person's brain handles the processing of the biological hearing systems differently. It's likely very few of us hear the same thing anyway.

    Differences in quality and sensitivity to your biological hearing gear, and how old and abused that gear may be, make it nearly impossible to know what you're mixing is going to sound the same to another person as it does to you.

    An audio engineer once told me that most of the impression a listener gets has much less to do with the sound delivery system or the listeners ears. Those two delivery and reception systems mostly function as reference data, and the real work was done in the brain.

    Considering all this, it makes debate about different headphones or monitors a bit trivial. I think, or speculate that this is why you want something as flat and neutral as possible.

    Coming to this a bit late, but...

    Some of the IEM's I've been trying lately have really made me rethink the whole "never mix and master with headphones" saying that I've grown up with. Like Skiphunt sort of alluded too, more and more I feel like while there are some core similiarities in how we all process sound, at the same time it's a very personal and unique thing to everyone on ways we might not even realize.

    I get to talk about the way things "sound" with a lot of musicians in my job (mastering engineer), and it's always been interesting to see what things people pick up on or not audibly, even in their own music. Sometimes on a level far greater than the difference between hearing things on speakers versus headphones.

    One thing I've noticed is that having really nice speakers or headphones really makes things EASIER more than better. You can more quickly hear and judge things as they will likely apply in the majority of real world situations, so there's less second guessing mix decisions or mastering tools.

    I've heard people turn out stellar work on way less than ideal gear too though, they just really spent the time learning what they were hearing and trial and error to see how it translated. So if nothing else, know that whatever you end up deciding to buy, you CAN make it work. It just might take longer than if you had an acoustically treated space and more accurate monitors/headphones.

    Personally, my vote would be either go all in with the best headphones you can buy ($500 is really on the low end for what I could consider accurate headphones), or get some decent cans and monitors for the price and learn to balance the two to help you fine-tune the sound of your productions.

  • I cannot find another headphone that bests the HD650, @Tarekith, and I tried literally all of them. The closest match was a Grado, don't remember the exact model, but even with this one, it was not really on par. None of the hi-end AKGs came even close. Of course, personal taste, but all the specialized sites and blogs seem to agree that the Sennheiser HD650 is the holy grail of mixing headphones.

    But I reckon I was rather optimistic, since I have my HD650s for quite a while now and don't remember how much I paid. Perhaps it was far north of $500. My advice still stands: get a HD650 or similarly priced can if you can, or keep the one you have and learn to know it.

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