Good Apps Made Great When Paired With Midi Controllers

SpookyZoo

The 'Clear-All' Button may have to go though.

SpookyZoo

@syrupcore One thing I'm finding in Loopy though is that the Record & Select next button for current track isn't selecting the next numerical track but the next on screen, so in the case of 6 track layout will jump sideways from Trk 3 to Trk 5. Is this expected behaviour?

Will

@SpookyZoo said:
@syrupcore One thing I'm finding in Loopy though is that the Record & Select next button for current track isn't selecting the next numerical track but the next on screen, so in the case of 6 track layout will jump sideways from Trk 3 to Trk 5. Is this expected behaviour?

I find nothing to do with Loopy track numbers to be 'expected'. I think if you turn the screen to portrait it makes more sense. I think. Can't remember at the moment.

Will

@lukesleepwalker said:

@syrupcore said:

A little easier to read full size.

Fantastic, thanks for sharing! Can you elaborate on why you have a current track vs 1-6? If you start at Track 1 and proceed to next as you build up loops, isn't that the same as controlling 1-6?

Because more often than not I'm working with 'current track' (loopy is weird with track numbers!).

Will

@Philippe said:

Midi and ios is THE thing: no more app switching!
Among the many setups I experimented with (loopy, turnado, etc) here is one I did lately:

B-STEP pro 4 sequences to 4 synths, each mapped to Its own nanokontrol. Elsa, Strng, Shapesynth and Minisynth by effectrix.

I love this so hard. How did you make the circular holes?

Has @humbletune seen this?

Philippe

Philippe

I almost bought a cnc laser cuter, but decided to go old school with a press drill and band saw.

Will

holy shit. That is awesome. What's the material @Philippe? Seems to me a drill would just tear paper up. Or maybe that's just all of my old dull drill bits. I see that you have the paper(?) clamped to the wood but still... and then you used a bandsaw for the sliders? Did you do more than one at a time? That photo looks to say otherwise.

Also, how much do you want for 5?

Philippe

Card board and thick watercolor paper. I made perhaps 20 in one shot. For the holes, the card boards must be clamped thightly between rigid material otherwise will tear. Band saw for sliders and punch for buttons. I now have more than I need. Would it worth shipping them from Montréal?

Telstar5

Nobody's mentioned the Korg Nanostudios?

Crawlingwind

You'll find another. I see them for sale often. I'm still trying to work mine into my rig. It has so much potential, if you have the time to make it your own, which I have not done yet.

@SpookyZoo said:
Missed out on a Quneo for £80 on Ebay last night because I forgot to set an alarm for 7:55pm.

9pm Panic/Sick feeling (:

Processaurus

@SpookyZoo said:

@Processaurus said:
The BCR2000 and effectrix are a nice pair, I put together a graphic in Illustrator:

The push encoders are programmed to be momentary buttons to turn the effect on, you can push on while you tweak the knobs, and there is a latching on button underneath. Doesn't use all the effects, not enough knobs.

Was thinking of trying to make a plexiglass cover, as an alternative to the masking tape, and be able to switch things out, but am not sure what to do with the buttons, since a thick panel would make the buttons less accessible, being down in a little hole, rather than on the surface.

That's awesome! So you printed from illustrator onto plain paper and used masking tape, glue, to paste down?

Thanks, yes, it is just printed on cardstock. Then I had some stuff that looks like 8" wide clear packing tape, that I sorta laminated it with, before i cut it out with an xacto knife.

Probably would look better on photo paper. And if there is a better way to stick the paper down, than tape.

I decided to make it kind of semi permanently an effectrix controller, because it wasn't getting used for anything else, might as well use it for one thing, rather than nothing.

Not used a BCR2000 before. Are the first 4 parameters named controlled by the first rotary? How do you switch between them?

Yes, you switch what the top rotary encoder does with the four buttons to the right of them. It's not bad, because the lights update where you are. The most common use would be in a mixer, say, the first bank is panning, the second is the sends to your reverb, delay, etc.

I love the hand drawn templates @Philippe . Especially the black ones. Did you use a paint pen to get the writing to show up?

obiwahnkentobi

@SpookyZoo said:
@syrupcore One thing I'm finding in Loopy though is that the Record & Select next button for current track isn't selecting the next numerical track but the next on screen, so in the case of 6 track layout will jump sideways from Trk 3 to Trk 5. Is this expected behaviour?

Cant try it yet, but i remember you could avoid this behaviour if you hold it horizontal if you switch to another app....

lukesleepwalker

@SpookyZoo said:
@syrupcore One thing I'm finding in Loopy though is that the Record & Select next button for current track isn't selecting the next numerical track but the next on screen, so in the case of 6 track layout will jump sideways from Trk 3 to Trk 5. Is this expected behaviour?

This is correct. It's one of the things that is not quite as intuitive as the rest of Loopy.

Philippe

@Processaurus said:

@SpookyZoo said:

@Processaurus said:
The BCR2000 and effectrix are a nice pair, I put together a graphic in Illustrator:

The push encoders are programmed to be momentary buttons to turn the effect on, you can push on while you tweak the knobs, and there is a latching on button underneath. Doesn't use all the effects, not enough knobs.

Was thinking of trying to make a plexiglass cover, as an alternative to the masking tape, and be able to switch things out, but am not sure what to do with the buttons, since a thick panel would make the buttons less accessible, being down in a little hole, rather than on the surface.

That's awesome! So you printed from illustrator onto plain paper and used masking tape, glue, to paste down?

Thanks, yes, it is just printed on cardstock. Then I had some stuff that looks like 8" wide clear packing tape, that I sorta laminated it with, before i cut it out with an xacto knife.

Probably would look better on photo paper. And if there is a better way to stick the paper down, than tape.

I decided to make it kind of semi permanently an effectrix controller, because it wasn't getting used for anything else, might as well use it for one thing, rather than nothing.

Not used a BCR2000 before. Are the first 4 parameters named controlled by the first rotary? How do you switch between them?

Yes, you switch what the top rotary encoder does with the four buttons to the right of them. It's not bad, because the lights update where you are. The most common use would be in a mixer, say, the first bank is panning, the second is the sends to your reverb, delay, etc.

I love the hand drawn templates @Philippe . Especially the black ones. Did you use a paint pen to get the writing to show up?

Paint and brushes. Zen moment.

Will

@Philippe said:
Card board and thick watercolor paper. I made perhaps 20 in one shot. For the holes, the card boards must be clamped thightly between rigid material otherwise will tear. Band saw for sliders and punch for buttons. I now have more than I need. Would it worth shipping them from Montréal?

Oh. Now that you say this, I see I was looking at the photo incorrectly. The top thing is just the aiming template. I see the papers clamped between the wood now. So boss.

Will

@Processaurus said:
I decided to make it kind of semi permanently an effectrix controller, because it wasn't getting used for anything else, might as well use it for one thing, rather than nothing.

I'm a fan of this sorta thinking. For those with GAS, these little doohickies can pile up. And when you know it can do lots of different things, it's easy to leave them sitting there, never getting around to programming it to do said lots of different things. At least it is for me.

Nanokontrol2= Loopy
LPD8 = AUFX controls
BCR-2000 = Alpha Juno sysex controller

I just leave them plugged in so I don't have to think about it. My keyboard controllers do different tricks but I actually took the time do set them up. Those mostly sat around until I dedicated them to a cause.

SpookyZoo

@Processaurus said:

@SpookyZoo said:

Not used a BCR2000 before. Are the first 4 parameters named controlled by the first rotary? How do you switch between them?

Yes, you switch what the top rotary encoder does with the four buttons to the right of them. It's not bad, because the lights update where you are. The most common use would be in a mixer, say, the first bank is panning, the second is the sends to your reverb, delay, etc.

Cool. Cheers for the info.

SpookyZoo

@syrupcore said:

@Philippe said:

Has @humbletune seen this?

Yeah, I'd love to know that Erik @humbletune has seen these. They're completely in line with the spirit of his apps.

Proto

@SpookyZoo said:

@syrupcore said:

@Philippe said:

Has @humbletune seen this?

Yeah, I'd love to know that Erik @humbletune has seen these. They're completely in line with the spirit of his apps.

The painter has an eye for detail.

Jaymon

@Processaurus said:
The BCR2000 and effectrix are a nice pair, I put together a graphic in Illustrator:

The push encoders are programmed to be momentary buttons to turn the effect on, you can push on while you tweak the knobs, and there is a latching on button underneath. Doesn't use all the effects, not enough knobs.

Was thinking of trying to make a plexiglass cover, as an alternative to the masking tape, and be able to switch things out, but am not sure what to do with the buttons, since a thick panel would make the buttons less accessible, being down in a little hole, rather than on the surface.

@Processaurus said:
The BCR2000 and effectrix are a nice pair, I put together a graphic in Illustrator:

The push encoders are programmed to be momentary buttons to turn the effect on, you can push on while you tweak the knobs, and there is a latching on button underneath. Doesn't use all the effects, not enough knobs.

Was thinking of trying to make a plexiglass cover, as an alternative to the masking tape, and be able to switch things out, but am not sure what to do with the buttons, since a thick panel would make the buttons less accessible, being down in a little hole, rather than on the surface.

@syrupcore said:

@Philippe said:

Midi and ios is THE thing: no more app switching!
Among the many setups I experimented with (loopy, turnado, etc) here is one I did lately:

B-STEP pro 4 sequences to 4 synths, each mapped to Its own nanokontrol. Elsa, Strng, Shapesynth and Minisynth by effectrix.

I love this so hard. How did you make the circular holes?

Has @humbletune seen this?

Jaymon

That's bad ass.

humbletune

@SpookyZoo said:

@syrupcore said:

@Philippe said:

Has @humbletune seen this?

Yeah, I'd love to know that Erik @humbletune has seen these. They're completely in line with the spirit of his apps.

I'm a bit slow but I have seen it now. That looks amazing @Philippe! Really cool and clever..

ERik

Processaurus

Here is a PDF of the graphic I made for Effectrix on the BCR2000, if anyone happens to like the same knobs I did, or, if you have a BCR, and Illustrator, it could be useful as a template to start from.

[Deleted User]

@Processaurus, (or anybody) do you know a way how to share a preset from bcr2000, please? I managed to do a single preset dump out of the bcr into a sysex librarian app, but how can I load any given .mid or .syx back into it? With the Bc manager only? Edit + Learn as Data Request wouldn't work with the librarian app ('gig rig midi+').
I'm thinking about sharing templates, e.g. a moog model 15 mapping. Thanks!

JohnnyGoodyear

@syrupcore said:

@Philippe said:

Midi and ios is THE thing: no more app switching!
Among the many setups I experimented with (loopy, turnado, etc) here is one I did lately:

B-STEP pro 4 sequences to 4 synths, each mapped to Its own nanokontrol. Elsa, Strng, Shapesynth and Minisynth by effectrix.

I love this so hard. How did you make the circular holes?

Has @humbletune seen this?

Don't know how I missed this. Ridiculously cool. And art also.

[Deleted User]

Using @gonekrazy3000 's modstep cc template (https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/13332/modstep-midi-cc-templates-new-moog-model-15-template-every-single-knob) and taking along the cc numbers (adding most of the knobs, and the mod wheel), below's the model15 map.

And the .mid sysex dump, in case anyone knows how to send it as preset to the bcr. That way we could apply other modstep templates to archive bcr templates, presumably ...

gonekrazy3000

@ccs2 said:

Using @gonekrazy3000 's modstep cc template (https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/13332/modstep-midi-cc-templates-new-moog-model-15-template-every-single-knob) and taking along the cc numbers (adding most of the knobs, and the mod wheel), below's the model15 map.

And the .mid sysex dump, in case anyone knows how to send it as preset to the bcr. That way we could apply other modstep templates to archive bcr templates, presumably ...

wow. glad to see that template helped people outside modstep too

[Deleted User]

@Dubbylabby said:

@syrupcore said:
Loopy and pretty much any controller. I use a combination of an FCB1010 for foot control and a korg nanokontrol 2 for other stuff like volume, muting... It's set up for 6 tracks of control then 1 slider set for 'current track' and 1 slider set for random other stuff like tap tempo, metronome volume... There are quite a lot of things you can do with Loopy that you can really only do via MIDI controller like combined actions.

I also have an LPD-8 dedicated to controlling AUFX:Space and AUFX:Dub. No need to switch to the app; turn the knob, hear the change.

This.
I have an edirol pcr keyboard which has most that I need (including 37 keys, joystick for pitch bend like xtation, midi din and crossfader!) and also I bought recently a Vestax pad one for xy, pads and midi DIN output (hell yesss) but also looking for second hand launchkey as soon as novation make them compatible with blocs wave (they aren't right?) in the same way they are with launchpad...

Which are the kings on this realm (apps plus controllers).
Also I have roland fc100mk2 (midi modded) for looping duties and also I'm crafting my own bass midi pedal for use in junction with apps like midiband (must have if you play neck or wind instruments...)

Since that comment Blocswave gained Launchpad export so I finally bought a Launchkeys mk2 and it's a heavenly experience. Asap I will buy a LaunchControl XL.

Still working on my customs but I only need midi learn for AUM and AUs inside it (ReSlice, Beathawk2...)

Philippe

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@syrupcore said:

@Philippe said:

Midi and ios is THE thing: no more app switching!
Among the many setups I experimented with (loopy, turnado, etc) here is one I did lately:

B-STEP pro 4 sequences to 4 synths, each mapped to Its own nanokontrol. Elsa, Strng, Shapesynth and Minisynth by effectrix.

I love this so hard. How did you make the circular holes?

Has @humbletune seen this?

Don't know how I missed this. Ridiculously cool. And art also.

Thanks!