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The FX are the dealbreaker, i can live without Audio Tracks. But not without good FX, it´s just not the same. I feel a lot of the disconnect is the style of music people are interested in, i mean, there is even a "wobble" synthesizer in Gadget, that tells you something about the target demographic.
And yeah, Korg is all over the place. From legendary stuff like the MS-20 to the Monotron...Was thinking of buying the Minilogue tried it out and didn´t do anything for me. iM1 and iWavestation really hit home for me...love these synths.
Yeah now you mention it....I will try and find some use for that wobble synth tomorrow lol. But yeah, I can see I am probably not the target demographic Korg had in mind. I do however see a broadening of late with the new gadgets for bass and drums (forget their names as its late and my head aches).
I've never thought of Gadget really as much more than a fun scratch pad. I just struggle to agree that the quality is that lacking. Yes there is better for some uses. Yes some hardware is better (not all). It's just I wonder how people are actually making the comparisons. As I say, I've used a lot of expensive gear and I fail to see how a good musician would have a problem with the sound. It's other issues that I believe will always keep Gadget firmly in the dabblers camp - FX quality, closed nature of the app, certain lacking midi spec and other features.
I do appreciate though we all have different needs and are looking for different strengths in the sounds we use
Since it's on 50% off right now.. What gadgets does it come with? How usable is it with just the basic set, or maybe the cheap'ish' Abu Dhabi and Bilbao added?
Probably going to stay more than happy with Auxy or AUM + various universal options on iPhone, but you never know..
I wasn´t sure what to think of it, i loved the concept at first, but was disappointed later. Now i think i get it, i´d answer my poll with Answer 2. I like the gadgets, they sound really good, and are so fun to program. iOS makes huge leaps in sound quality. The ODYSSEi is so good, you don´t have 8-voice polyphony with the Hardware. The iWavestation is the best Version of the Wavestation there ever was, much better than the original hardware. Let that sink in. My favourite musicians of all time, Boards of Canada, never had the best and most expensive gear, they had 4-track tapemachines and created a legendary sound.
It comes with Berlin, Dublin, Chiangmai, Helsinki, Chicago, Phoenix, Wolfsburg, London, Tokyo, Kiev, Marseille, Miami, Brussels, Amsterdam, Kingston.
I´d say it´s usable for rather basic EDM. It´s a great tool to learn sounddesign with the very easy to use gadgets...It lacks good FX and mixing features...
Thanks, sounds like a lot actually! How does it fare as far as any sampled instruments inside, pianos and such like?
It has the Marseille PCM Synth, with some sampled PCM piano that doesn´t sound great. You can try out with the free Gadget LE i believe. For great Piano check out Module, or iM1 for the PCM synth piano...Marseille is the one Gadget that is absolute crap...
yah I probably do find it largely is the fx that i am less than thrilled with when i criticise the sound of the gadgets. I pump these synths through csspectral and am as happy as a clam. Then again i fart into csspectral and it sounds like magic but i am but a simple man. Recording track by track into blocs with fx has yeilded fruit. Maybe one day it will have cool dedicated fx gagdets and let us pipe any gadget into them.
I have no idea what this thread is about! @Patric_Bateman, are you saying you like gadget or you don't?
As for the new synths being too big for gadget, could be. But they are optional, and I took the option not to buy them. I haven't heard anything from any odyssei video that has made me feel its a must have, I think gadget has enough options to make analog sounds already. Plus, it's hard to believe that my iPad air is now considered old, but I know that it can manage the original gadgets quite well.
I should clarify though that anything I do in gadget is strictly for fun, the music that I make otherwise is live instrumentation based, and I do live recordings of other musicians, mostly jazz. So everything in gadget is just fun, I haven't really thought too much about its limitations and I never owned any synths in the past to compare. I do plan on owning a moog sub phatty sometime in the relatively near future though.
I have no idea what that post was about either!
Here's how I'm using it.
Needs Kaoss pads. Can't stress this enough. App is good, usable, good sounds. It needs a fun factor. Kaoss pads. Kaoss pads. Kaoss pads for EVERYTHING. You might read this and think "I don't want that" but trust me, you'll love the shit out of it if they ever go that route.
The basic set is super diverse. 3-4 gadgets i never use (miami, kingston, marseille and london). Bilbao is a must have iap. Once i got that london made no sense.
Madrid and gladstone sound really good and are very playable. In app purchases
I don't really care for the channel /master effects but i keep it mostly light reverb until i export to mix, which i do dry. The delays in the gadgets are nice as simple delays. And lexington has pretty nice fx.
Yah Marseille isn't great for naturalistic sounds but I find layered with other gadgets playing the exact same notes or an octave lower or higher, it can round them out more. I like combining something like a Koto from Marseille to the Chiangmai gadget to give it a meatier attack. In fact i am pretty much always doubling up gadgets playing the same notes and panning them with fx etc to round out the sound.
I like it for writing songs with.
Sorry. That's impossible. Gadget is just a joke.
Can you not expert stems from Gadget to use in Cubasis though? Can't check, not got it installed at the mo.
I see your point about it not being a single production environment but disagree with the notion that this is a bad thing. ((ome peeps use it standalone though)
And you have missed my point re Cubasis - you need other apps to make it great. Gadget can be one of the tools in that arsenal.
Its a highly evolved groovebox
There's always one...
There are features I'd like to see in Gadget, and after spending all that money I've yet to record anything finished or meaningful with it.
But am I complaining? No. Do I love it, and think it's one of the cleverest things of wonderful I've ever owned? Yes.
Ten years ago I couldn't have dreamed of having something this powerful on a device smaller than a fag packet, let alone being able to afford it. Twenty years ago I was struggling to multitrack a misbehaving MS20 through failing cables into a temperamental Portastudio - taking hours to produce something that sounds inferior to five minutes doodling in Gadget.
Good times, enjoy them while they're here.
For all Gadget can do, I don’t see it as expensive, even with the IAPs. And it’s a good point that the standalone apps that provide free Gadget versions are not IAP’s, and should not be considered as the cost of Gadget. So anyone has the right to be disappointed that Korg made Gadget what it is, but is Korg stupid or missing the boat because of it? You’d have to show that it’s a bad design, not that it isn’t ideal for you, personally. It’s apparently a successful selling app that many musicians love. If there were better apps to replace it, it wouldn’t even be talked about much. It’s simple to use, stable, and sounds great to many of our ears. Simplicity, continuity, and stability may be factors in some of Korg’s self-imposed limitations, and at the cost of the app, with free updates, the huge company devotes just so many resources to this one small product’s development. Asking for more? Why not? Expecting more may just be expecting too much.
For all the disadvantages of Gadget, I hear pretty much the same things said about the Circuit. Except as advantages.
I'm pretty sure that statement made the literary equivalent of a torus.
A Möbius one.
The point is having this great discussion with you awesome people
I was just wondering, how others view, and use Gadget. So far it´s been very interesting, and maybe this thread is of help for someone starting out thinking about buying Gadget and investing in the ecosystem, or save the money for something else!
The ODYSSEi/Lexington has huge capabilities, it feels like a semi-modular synth with all the modulation options, it is at the top of all iOS virtual analogue synths.
That´s why i´m thinking of Gadget as a workstation, the layering possibility is a great point. I do think that the iM1/Darwin renders Marseille obsolete though.
And i would love to see these resources focus on a better ODYSSEi implementation for example. App Store average rating is 3.5 stars, when it should be a solid 5 stars for a synth with that sound. I´d love to see them go AUv3, leave Gadget for what it is, and not try to force it into something it is not!
I'd vote somewhere between 2 and 3. Saying that, when it first came out more between 1 and 2.
They don't care what we think anyway - the Korg Uberlords
You´re absolutely right. Needs a much better onscreen keyboard too. Feels totally unusable for me without a hardware controller. ODYSSEi standalone is actually awesome with the effects and the KAOSS pad, ridiculous that you don´t have the pads inside Gadget, since nearly every standalone has them...
It is indeed fascinating looking back at how far we have come in music tech. But I do smile at those that decry what we have now, when we remember:
A mass of cables, finding the right ends and mains hum.
Your masterpiece on tape being chewed up by the tape player.
Having to go without food to buy even rudimentary gear.
We cared little for exact clock timing or tuning as those things were owned by high end studios only.
Gaffer Tape and cleaning fluid were our best friends.
Rack mounted gear and mega keyboards were incredibly sexy, but the cost in running and bad backs was not so sexy.
We had so many dreams, as most gear was out of reach for the average wage packet.
Good times! Or were they?
It would be interesting if @AndyPlankton was on this thread. I've enjoyed playing about with some tracks he's written in Gadget and then he exports them to other apps. His ideas have shown me, it's quite possible to get a lot going in Gadget.
The thing is, while I probably waste so much time getting the small stuff sorted ready to make a track, Andy has written ten basic tracks for further work in other apps. Seems he has made good use of Gadget
How useful are app store ratings? They typically attract users who just want to bitch about something they don’t understand, or something that didn’t go right for them but works for just about everyone else.
I don’t know what Korg’s strategy is, but I guess they either don’t feel AUv3 is the optimal financial move for them, or they don’t like something about Apple’s implementation of it. With regard to Gadget in particular, I can see how AUv3 capability would compete with sales of Gadgets, and how it might have a negative impact on simplicity, continuity, and stability.
Gadget could be better. I think we can all agree. But I also thank Korg for offering an iOS app that’s so fun and useful. I see a lot of good work put into it that shows they do care about their customers and the product. It must be a balance between trying to please everyone and sticking to their vision, and while serving the mission of a big business.
@lovedamusic They´re extremely impactful on the sale of your app. iWavestation has a solid IAA implementation and works great with Cubasis, and has a much better rating, the only bad ratings come from the Gadget integration.
The best way forward for Korg would be to embrace AU, just port every Gadget to AU, and let the customer decide what platform they want to use!