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New Klevgränd Synth called Pads

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  • The very few samples I've heard of this one so far sound nice. They also sound like the user's evidently added more FX to get that nice sound. And, they all kind of sound very similar to each as well for some reason.

    Are a great variety of sounds not so easily produced with this synth?

  • You have 2 x 6 Wavetables, a noise/grain oscillator and the filter. Then it´s only FX including the built in chorus. The strongpoint is the smooth and fast handling, if you need a good pad fast, and don´t want to dive into a big synth. It´s absolutely worth 5 bucks.

  • Instabuy for me... wee bit small on my iPhone .... but I can surely make 20 mb free on my iPad!
    Should play nice with FugueMachine!
    :)

  • @JRSIV said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    A very quick demo of a couple of Pad sounds which quickly got overtaken by watching the Godard movie at the same time etc. Happens.

    Gawddamn! Okay the pad is nice but that lead oriental violin sound was so cool. Very nice track, really great cohesion with the drums too...

    Yep... very nice work, Johnny.

    Sometimes it just "happens" :).

  • Couldn't resist. Love it so far. Love less options sometimes, especially when they are so playable. And love that it's au. The few synths i have that are au get openend and messed with more becaus they are less hassle in auria or aum.

  • edited December 2016

    @vpich said:
    Couldn't resist. Love it so far. Love less options sometimes, especially when they are so playable. And love that it's au. The few synths i have that are au get openend and messed with more becaus they are less hassle in auria or aum.

    Now that I've picked up ModStep last night, I'm kinda wanting more AU toys. The only thing that's keeping me from this one is the fact that most of the demos sound like the same sound. A good sound, but the same in all that I've heard. Can you indeed get any real variety out of this one? What I hear sounds nice with a little reverb and FX added, but I'm not hearing any variety of sounds. Is there just basically one nice sound you can get from this?

    I'll likely use xmas gift cards for iWavestation and love pretty much everything I've heard from that one. But this one is AU and I'm still intrigued.

    That being said.. I also want to grab at least one of the FabFilters on sale for Auria Pro. Can't decide between Timeless2 and Saturn. Thinking maybe I should just save my pesos and pass on this one if it doesn't offer the possibility of great variety.

  • @sundhage said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @sundhage said:

    While someone's mentioning Roverb. Please consider giving Roverb and Vandelay AU extensions.

    Bing, bing, bing....

    Trust me, it has been considered. The problem is screen space; those apps were made for a full screen iPad. We have to rethink the whole UI if it should fit inside a AU window... But sooner or later it will happen! I just can't say when.

    Ii there still no way for an AU to zoom full screen ?
    I thought this was on the cards at some point.
    Maybe i am mixed up with something else.

  • @Flexinoodle said:

    @sundhage said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @sundhage said:

    While someone's mentioning Roverb. Please consider giving Roverb and Vandelay AU extensions.

    Bing, bing, bing....

    Trust me, it has been considered. The problem is screen space; those apps were made for a full screen iPad. We have to rethink the whole UI if it should fit inside a AU window... But sooner or later it will happen! I just can't say when.

    Is there still no way for an AU to zoom full screen ?
    I thought this was on the cards at some point.
    Maybe i am mixed up with something else.

  • Can you indeed get any real variety out of this one? What I hear sounds nice with a little reverb and FX added, but I'm not hearing any variety of sounds. Is there just basically one nice sound you can get from this?

    It's as much variety as i would need for this. Cool gritty textures even low in the mix will help gel things together nicely

    That being said.. I also want to grab at least one of the FabFilters on sale for Auria Pro. Can't decide between Timeless2 and Saturn. Thinking maybe I should just save my pesos and pass on this one if it doesn't offer the possibility of great variety.

    I love saturn. A many trick pony.

  • edited December 2016

    I´m loving Pads, and i´m sure it´s in my Head only, but i hear the Boards of Canada inspiration everywhere.

    @sundhage While playing around with it, i think i´ve found a problem in Wavetable E, or is this intended behavior? :-)

  • Definitely BOC. This kinda sound is all i try to accomplish with fm or bells. Smear it and add delay and reverb.

  • As a nice surprise bonus, knobs on the korg nano key studio are perfectly mapped to filter and amp settings as well as a few on/off switches.

    Tried it with their free svep app. Perfect fit. And i like that it has no reverb and i get to choose which one i use.

  • edited December 2016

    It has definitely an individual character due to the crazy sounding wavetables, and the unique lo-fi generator. Many people think, that this is just like many other synths, just with less options. It isn´t!

  • @Patric_Bateman said:
    I´m loving Pads, and i´m sure it´s in my Head only, but i hear the Boards of Canada inspiration everywhere.

    @sundhage While playing around with it, i think i´ve found a problem in Wavetable E, or is this intended behavior? :-)

    I'm sure it's intentional, part of the 'unpredictability' factor of the wobble setting. There are nice surprises to be had depending on note/velocity.

  • This will sound crazy, but there's one dude on synthtopia who evidently hates this one with a deep passion. He's been going on non-stop about how much he hates it and how he's getting a refund. Said it several times and expressed the same level of utter disdain for this synth on the musicappblog too.

    Funny thing is, the more I read about how this guy and a few others hate this one... The more I wanted it. Through in the references to BOC, and I'm all in. Just bought it and had a quick play in my newly acquired Modstep purchase. I LOVE the sound of this app!!! I even like most of the presets too. It's got this subtle, organic, sand, imperfect quality that's just beautiful.

    Can't believe I almost passed this one up due to negative initial user feedback. Maybe there's something wrong with my hearing, but what I'm hearing from this pad synth so far is solid gold.

  • @Patric_Bateman said:
    I´m loving Pads, and i´m sure it´s in my Head only, but i hear the Boards of Canada inspiration everywhere.

    @sundhage While playing around with it, i think i´ve found a problem in Wavetable E, or is this intended behavior? :-)

    Hehe, that's the aliasing you're getting, and combined with some modulation etc it gets pretty cool(?)... I actually had a oversampled version going for a while (reducing/removing this effect) but we decided to remove the resampling parts just because we liked how it sounds :)

  • @Flexinoodle said:

    @sundhage said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @sundhage said:

    While someone's mentioning Roverb. Please consider giving Roverb and Vandelay AU extensions.

    Bing, bing, bing....

    Trust me, it has been considered. The problem is screen space; those apps were made for a full screen iPad. We have to rethink the whole UI if it should fit inside a AU window... But sooner or later it will happen! I just can't say when.

    Ii there still no way for an AU to zoom full screen ?
    I thought this was on the cards at some point.
    Maybe i am mixed up with something else.

    Nope, at least what I know of. The AU window size is completely in the hands of the host...

  • @skiphunt said:
    This will sound crazy, but there's one dude on synthtopia who evidently hates this one with a deep passion. He's been going on non-stop about how much he hates it and how he's getting a refund. Said it several times and expressed the same level of utter disdain for this synth on the musicappblog too.

    Funny thing is, the more I read about how this guy and a few others hate this one... The more I wanted it. Through in the references to BOC, and I'm all in. Just bought it and had a quick play in my newly acquired Modstep purchase. I LOVE the sound of this app!!! I even like most of the presets too. It's got this subtle, organic, sand, imperfect quality that's just beautiful.

    Can't believe I almost passed this one up due to negative initial user feedback. Maybe there's something wrong with my hearing, but what I'm hearing from this pad synth so far is solid gold.

    +1
    This particular troll in fact made me jump from the fence and I got it.

  • @DeVlaeminck said:

    @skiphunt said:
    This will sound crazy, but there's one dude on synthtopia who evidently hates this one with a deep passion. He's been going on non-stop about how much he hates it and how he's getting a refund. Said it several times and expressed the same level of utter disdain for this synth on the musicappblog too.

    Funny thing is, the more I read about how this guy and a few others hate this one... The more I wanted it. Through in the references to BOC, and I'm all in. Just bought it and had a quick play in my newly acquired Modstep purchase. I LOVE the sound of this app!!! I even like most of the presets too. It's got this subtle, organic, sand, imperfect quality that's just beautiful.

    Can't believe I almost passed this one up due to negative initial user feedback. Maybe there's something wrong with my hearing, but what I'm hearing from this pad synth so far is solid gold.

    +1
    This particular troll in fact made me jump from the fence and I got it.

    Suspecting a guerrilla marketing campaign from @sundhage here xD

    And regarding the aliasing, i´m not a huge fan but maybe it even adds to the charm. Maybe in 20 years we get nostalgic about aliasing, like we´re today with broken tape, circuits, noise, detune etc.

  • Actually you can get some nice sounds out of aliasing oscillators. That's how the supersaw was generated on the roland's. The trick there was they used some kind of bi-quad high shelf filter set just below the fundamental frequency.

    If you combine a low pass with a high pass filter you can get some surprisingly rich sounds very cheaply.

  • @DeVlaeminck said:

    @skiphunt said:
    This will sound crazy, but there's one dude on synthtopia who evidently hates this one with a deep passion. He's been going on non-stop about how much he hates it and how he's getting a refund. Said it several times and expressed the same level of utter disdain for this synth on the musicappblog too.

    Funny thing is, the more I read about how this guy and a few others hate this one... The more I wanted it. Through in the references to BOC, and I'm all in. Just bought it and had a quick play in my newly acquired Modstep purchase. I LOVE the sound of this app!!! I even like most of the presets too. It's got this subtle, organic, sand, imperfect quality that's just beautiful.

    Can't believe I almost passed this one up due to negative initial user feedback. Maybe there's something wrong with my hearing, but what I'm hearing from this pad synth so far is solid gold.

    +1
    This particular troll in fact made me jump from the fence and I got it.

    Heh, yeah... I was like, "Man! This guy REALLY hates this app... must be pretty good! " ;)

    Also, to answer my own question I'd had before buying for those on the fence... yes, you can indeed get a lot of variety from this synth, out of the box without any extra processing at all. The presets are significantly varied and even with the few controls given, you can radically change the base presets.

    In AUM and Modstep, I was also playing with adding RP-1/RF-1, and got even more radically different and interesting sound going nuts with zMors EQ. Lots of hidden goodness underneath the already lovely surface.

  • @cian said:
    Actually you can get some nice sounds out of aliasing oscillators. That's how the supersaw was generated on the roland's. The trick there was they used some kind of bi-quad high shelf filter set just below the fundamental frequency.

    If you combine a low pass with a high pass filter you can get some surprisingly rich sounds very cheaply.

    That's intriguing. Do you know of any documentation that describes this? I'm always eager to learn new synthesis techniques.

  • @skiphunt said:
    This will sound crazy, but there's one dude on synthtopia who evidently hates this one with a deep passion. He's been going on non-stop about how much he hates it and how he's getting a refund. Said it several times and expressed the same level of utter disdain for this synth on the musicappblog too.

    Synthtopia message boards have gotten worse and worse over the past few years. Great site otherwise.

    I love the sounds I get out of Pads!

  • @cian said:
    Actually you can get some nice sounds out of aliasing oscillators. That's how the supersaw was generated on the roland's. The trick there was they used some kind of bi-quad high shelf filter set just below the fundamental frequency.

    If you combine a low pass with a high pass filter you can get some surprisingly rich sounds very cheaply.

    Wow thx for sharing the knowledge, very interesting!

  • @brambos said:

    @cian said:
    Actually you can get some nice sounds out of aliasing oscillators. That's how the supersaw was generated on the roland's. The trick there was they used some kind of bi-quad high shelf filter set just below the fundamental frequency.

    If you combine a low pass with a high pass filter you can get some surprisingly rich sounds very cheaply.

    That's intriguing. Do you know of any documentation that describes this? I'm always eager to learn new synthesis techniques.

    I learnt about the Super Saw trick from the KVR forums (and then reimplemented it in SuperCollider because I didn't believe it could be that simple).

    But if you take a low-cut aliased oscillator the reflecting waves gives you enough interesting inharmonic partials in the higher end to give you an interesting and thick sound source. Then if you start combining oscillators (or modulating them) you get a pretty dynamic and thick sound for pads, or rave type stabs, or something.

    Once you have your basic sound, it's just subtractive synthesis. Though I find you do want to cut some of the high end, otherwise it can get a little buzzy.

    I keep planning to experiment with something similar for FM. Basically just let the anti-aliasing happen, and then cut anything below the carrier frequency.

    I'm always eager to learn new synthesis techniques.

    Yeah me too. I wish there was a single source, rather than random resources scattered all over the internet.

  • Was curious about this one, seeing as how divisive it seems to be. My opinion on the previous Klevgränd synths was mixed as well (Enkl=yay, Jussi=nay). Dropping a Boards of Canada reference was just enough to give me the final push, and after a quick preset scan, and a little mucking about, I think I like this one quite a bit. Surely not the most versatile synth around, but if you dig grainy lo-fi ethereal sounds, well worth today's latte money.

  • @Cliffy said:
    Surely not the most versatile synth around, but if you dig grainy lo-fi ethereal sounds, well worth today's latte money.

    I think this sums it up for me nicely

  • edited December 2016

    So it wasn´t just in my head after all with the BoC. :) I´m such a diehard fan, i can´t even put it into words. The interesting thing is the heavily processed nature of the wavetables. On a "standard" synth, you´d have to go through enormous lengths to even get in those regions of sophistication, where Pads takes you even before the filter. It is just 12 Wavetables with limited layering, but i wouldn´t wanna miss them anymore, especially for 5 bucks!

  • Yeah i usually spend a lot of time setting a while pedalboard of guitar fx to get something similar. Here all i really need is a reverb. Will probAbly pick up enkl.

  • @vpich said:
    Yeah i usually spend a lot of time setting a while pedalboard of guitar fx to get something similar. Here all i really need is a reverb. Will probAbly pick up enkl.

    I already have, while i appreciate the dynamic mono sound of Enkl, i´m not a big fan of the UI, especially in the AUv3 mode. It looks great, but it isn´t that practical. Some faders, like the LFO Frequency at the bottom, are extremely hard to operate. You can sense very clearly, that Enkl hadn´t been designed for AUv3, it just got "shrunk" to fit into the much smaller box.

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