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Akai's new standalone MPC looks awesome

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  • kobamotokobamoto

    @syrupcore good question

    @mireko_2 -one can only hope.... the rytm is a great sampling drum machine as it is

  • WillWill

    @kobamoto Asked one of the devs on Twitter. No support for keyboard shortcuts at launch. Here's the reply:

    No, we haven’t done that. Interesting idea, though; not too hard. May look at that for a future update.

    I'll stick with hopeful. Also asked about the extent of external CC control but didn't hear back.

  • ProtoProto
    edited January 2017

    I'm wondering how the workflow will be compared to a desktop daw or iOS device. It seems like a lot of adjusting settings to create some simple beats.

    Edit: I watched 4 mpc demo videos with a lot of bla,bla,bla about the software. Any videos demonstrating how to build a song from scratch?

  • ThomasThomas

    @kobamoto said:
    the thing about thinking the new mpc is just an redundant overly priced box compared to ipads is not entirely accurate, the main thing being overlooked is that the sequencer is unlike any sequencer on iOS and has features that no sequencer on iOS has... I won't get into if it's better or not than other sequencers on iOS because that's subjective anyway but just for example, if you'd like to string sequences together with different tempos which sequencer on iOS offers this capability besides the impc pro?

    I feel the main thing being overlooked is when there's a software update to the sequencer, it won't make the hardware ins/outs obsolete, or an update to the editor software, it won't make the sequencer software incapable of normal operations, etc...

  • mireko_2mireko_2

    @Thomas said:

    @kobamoto said:
    the thing about thinking the new mpc is just an redundant overly priced box compared to ipads is not entirely accurate, the main thing being overlooked is that the sequencer is unlike any sequencer on iOS and has features that no sequencer on iOS has... I won't get into if it's better or not than other sequencers on iOS because that's subjective anyway but just for example, if you'd like to string sequences together with different tempos which sequencer on iOS offers this capability besides the impc pro?

    I feel the main thing being overlooked is when there's a software update to the sequencer, it won't make the hardware ins/outs obsolete, or an update to the editor software, it won't make the sequencer software incapable of normal operations, etc...

    Yes exactly. My previous mpc's sat on my desk for years and every time I sat down to use them they worked as expected. Never had to worry about an update or compatibility or anything. I only got lured away from them by easier sample editing and file management that new software had (Reason REX and Ableton)

  • ksoundksound

    @5pinlink said:
    I wonder if these can show presets on VST effects yet, major downfall of the current MPC software, unless the plugin has its own preset display, they cant be used, very very strange in 2017

    Extra-strange considering the Akai Advance keyboard has decent VST browsing via the Big Tick Zen system.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @syrupcore said:
    @kobamoto Asked one of the devs on Twitter. No support for keyboard shortcuts at launch. Here's the reply:

    No, we haven’t done that. Interesting idea, though; not too hard. May look at that for a future update.

    I'll stick with hopeful. Also asked about the extent of external CC control but didn't hear back.

    I bet they will do it if you remind them, that was a freakin great idea!

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    Sold Push 2 today. Sad to see it go but anxiously waiting for MPC Live

  • kobamotokobamoto

    really!! I think they would make excellent companions

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    Yeah but can't afford to keep both... also I need one box that does it all.
    This year Akai hit it out of the park.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    I'm hoping so, if they hit 80% stability it will be worth it's weight in gold even if you don't use it with a computer.

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    Well that's mostly how I plan to use it :D
    Just the MPC, a guitar and the ipad as a sampling source (synth oscillators, fx, spotify beats, etc)

    Although from what I remember the MPC has a nice library and they said it's improved in 2.0 also... they have a revamped browser with better search. YAY!

  • kobamotokobamoto

    yeah the browser update will be great, this 30 year old workflow has always only needed the smallest of tweaks to return huge benefits. I will be using it in much the same way as you.

  • kobamotokobamoto
    edited January 2017

    Love Jakobs honesty/ openness

  • kobamotokobamoto

    actually the other stuff outside of the mpc is a nice discussion, I'm enjoying the other 2 guys comments as well

  • MichaelLawrenceMichaelLawrence

    @alecsbuga said:
    Sold Push 2 today. Sad to see it go but anxiously waiting for MPC Live

    Nicee! :o I have not decided if I want to sell mine yet. The past few months, I have got a nice workflow down. I do not know if I would sell the software either. The MPC live is exactly what I have been waiting on for a couple of years though. I do not want to use a computer any more (not including iPAd). I work 9 hours a day on a laptop for work so it's nice not to have to look at a computer screen for most of my waking hours.

    I defintiely can not afford both but @kobamoto makes a good point, the combination sounds declious! Perhaps we should all rob a bank and split the money?

  • ksoundksound

    @5pinlink said:
    when asked on the Akai forum about effects presets, the support actually replied "Nobody uses presets" it was quite a big joke at the time.

    That's the Akai I know :smile:

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @Noirflux said:

    @alecsbuga said:
    Sold Push 2 today. Sad to see it go but anxiously waiting for MPC Live

    Nicee! :o I have not decided if I want to sell mine yet. The past few months, I have got a nice workflow down. I do not know if I would sell the software either. The MPC live is exactly what I have been waiting on for a couple of years though. I do not want to use a computer any more (not including iPAd). I work 9 hours a day on a laptop for work so it's nice not to have to look at a computer screen for most of my waking hours.

    I defintiely can not afford both but @kobamoto makes a good point, the combination sounds declious! Perhaps we should all rob a bank and split the money?

    as long as it's not my bank :D

    the thing I really like about push 2 and the mpc is that even though they do the same thing they feel nothing like overlap because each has some unique features and because the workflows are are different and can feed into each other nicely...... I guess that's why native instruments went and created the jam to go along with maschine, unfortunately the jam is no push and the maschine is no mpc

  • WillWill

    @kobamoto said:
    Love Jakobs honesty/ openness

    Me too. I felt similarly with iMPC Pro. I redownloaded it last night to see if I can get down with the pattern/track/program/song workflow before I get too excited about the LIVE.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    don't know if that's a good idea lol, the mpc live is def not a retronyms deal.
    but if they did take the mixer per sequence idea from the impc I'd faint... I still think people don't get how dope that is even after I explain it, it's like there isn't a reference in other apps for it so I end up calling it snapshot feature or something...
    but other than that thank goodness akai let dan, pete, and jeff do this instead of cough..cough... anybody else

  • MichaelLawrenceMichaelLawrence

    @kobamoto said:

    @Noirflux said:

    @alecsbuga said:
    Sold Push 2 today. Sad to see it go but anxiously waiting for MPC Live

    Nicee! :o I have not decided if I want to sell mine yet. The past few months, I have got a nice workflow down. I do not know if I would sell the software either. The MPC live is exactly what I have been waiting on for a couple of years though. I do not want to use a computer any more (not including iPAd). I work 9 hours a day on a laptop for work so it's nice not to have to look at a computer screen for most of my waking hours.

    I defintiely can not afford both but @kobamoto makes a good point, the combination sounds declious! Perhaps we should all rob a bank and split the money?

    as long as it's not my bank :D

    the thing I really like about push 2 and the mpc is that even though they do the same thing they feel nothing like overlap because each has some unique features and because the workflows are are different and can feed into each other nicely...... I guess that's why native instruments went and created the jam to go along with maschine, unfortunately the jam is no push and the maschine is no mpc

    lmao deal. The workflows do go together so well. I still need only 1 so I can focus 100 % of my effort.

    Speaking of NI, I have not heard much from them lately. Perhaps they are being really tight lipped until NAMM actually starts. I would love a surprise standalone maschine type controller from them this year but I doubt it would happen :(

  • kobamotokobamoto

    I don't even think they attend namm anymore, but that would be a great surprise if it happened, I'm hoping roland come with a surprise and I'm interested in what elektron is teasing

  • WillWill

    @kobamoto said:
    don't know if that's a good idea lol, the mpc live is def not a retronyms deal.
    but if they did take the mixer per sequence idea from the impc I'd faint... I still think people don't get how dope that is even after I explain it, it's like there isn't a reference in other apps for it so I end up calling it snapshot feature or something...
    but other than that thank goodness akai let dan, pete, and jeff do this instead of cough..cough... anybody else

    Yeah, I get that it's not the same (doesn't even have MIDI out iirc) but the basic programs->tracks->sequences->song MPC paradigm should apply. I had trouble groking that last time.

    I actually remember being frustrated by the mixer per sequence. :) Is there a way to change the level for a track across all sequences?

  • kobamotokobamoto

    they have the technology. I don't know what they are doing to have squandered this opportunity they've had all of this time.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @syrupcore said:

    @kobamoto said:
    don't know if that's a good idea lol, the mpc live is def not a retronyms deal.
    but if they did take the mixer per sequence idea from the impc I'd faint... I still think people don't get how dope that is even after I explain it, it's like there isn't a reference in other apps for it so I end up calling it snapshot feature or something...
    but other than that thank goodness akai let dan, pete, and jeff do this instead of cough..cough... anybody else

    Yeah, I get that it's not the same (doesn't even have MIDI out iirc) but the basic programs->tracks->sequences->song MPC paradigm should apply. I had trouble groking that last time.

    I actually remember being frustrated by the mixer per sequence. :) Is there a way to change the level for a track across all sequences?

    only by duplicating that sequence and leaving the levels where they are I guess

  • WillWill

    @kobamoto thanks. I'd prefer if there was an overall mixer for tracks and then each sequence offered the opportunity to offset the mixer from the overall value. Like automation in a linear DAW I guess. Though I guess in MPClandia, SEQ1/TRK1 could be a totally different program than SEQ2/TRK1. See, maybe I'm too stuck in other paradigms...

  • kobamotokobamoto

    everything has it's place, as exhibited by that track you posted.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    speaking of, they just started working on updating it again, might wanna suggest this to them and they are looking for testers too

  • kobamotokobamoto

    man you made me load it up again, when you haven't been doing the mpc thing on iOS for a bit and then come back to it it's kind of nice to think this is possible on an ipad mini

  • kobamotokobamoto

    on second thought I just love the mixer that way :#

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