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Akai's new standalone MPC looks awesome

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  • kobamotokobamoto
    edited February 2017

    @syrupcore
    you didn't come across as bashing Imo, I want to see the same things you do...

    I think Andy Mac is a nice guy but not the one to show us those things as I don't think he uses it to that extent, but in this video close to the end I think he mentions getting others who do use it extensively to get in on the demonstrations which will be great

  • IcepulseIcepulse

    @syrupcore said:

    @kobamoto said:

    @syrupcore said:

    @mireko_2 said:

    @alecsbuga said:
    Well I spotted it just when they uploaded it because it didn't even had 1080p :)) it was still processing :)
    Probably they made it public by mistake.

    It was a little more detailed on program edit & stuff.

    Ahh bummer, would of liked to see that! Hopefully they aren't waiting until release day to make it public again.

    Damn. That's the sort of stuff I want to see. I've stopped watching any videos about it because it's basically the same "look, magic!" high-level pre-composed demo each time.

    what I like about the demos is how each thing he's showing you has Never been combined in one machine before.... I'm glad he doesn't make us watch him sample reahnna or whatever that is from scratch.... but what he does show is the combining of sequencing, time stretching, clip launching, slicing, and most importantly hopping back and forth between all the modes without stopping..... and doing clip launching over the top of playing midi sequences if I'm not mistaken...... the only reference we have for something like this is Ableton live and push but nothing that is stand alone and hardware

    on top of this you can plug up a midi controller to it and all without a computer, Imo it's looking good so far

    Of course, they need to show what's new in under 2-5 minutes to keep people's attention. And it's a great way to highlight what's new and special about the box. I'm not bashing the demos, just saying I've seen 10 versions of the same demo at this point. Now I want to see it all done from scratch. Easy bits, hard bits, annoying bits, smooth bits, surprising bits... what's it like to actually work with this thing?

    Just watch some of the extensive MPC Touch videos on YouTube. For the most part, the workflow remains the same. A few additions that come w/ 2.0 software will be absent (audio tracks / clip launching). But the sampling, chopping, pad assignments, grid editing, tracks, programs, sequences... all pretty much out there already w/ the Touch.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    I'm surprised that no digital I/o was included.

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  • DhamDham
    edited February 2017

    Testing my old iMPC pro patterns on the new MPCX ⚡⚡@Akai_Pro pic.twitter.com/kreQGLMmoH

    — Richard Devine (@RichardDevine) February 1, 2017
  • kobamotokobamoto

    @Dham said:

    Testing my old iMPC pro patterns on the new MPCX ⚡⚡@Akai_Pro pic.twitter.com/kreQGLMmoH

    — Richard Devine (@RichardDevine) February 1, 2017

    say whaaaat

  • WillWill

    @kobamoto said:

    @Dham said:

    Testing my old iMPC pro patterns on the new MPCX ⚡⚡@Akai_Pro pic.twitter.com/kreQGLMmoH

    — Richard Devine (@RichardDevine) February 1, 2017

    say whaaaat

    Woa. Wonder how that will work out. Just the patterns or patterns and samples and songs, etc. if something like the latter, that would get a solid tick in the 'potential big deal' column for me. And most iOS users I'd imagine.

  • mireko_2mireko_2

    I must be blocked by a bunch of people on here, posted about Richard Devine playing his impc pro projects further up the thread and was surprised no one was hyped.. :smiley:

  • Ivan_DjIvan_Dj

    ^^^^I was hyped :)

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    Well, since the new MPCs use the full desktop software inside, and since MPC Software already imports iMPC Pro projects, I can't see why you can't do that. It's nice.

    But since I'm not using iMPC Pro anymore I have a different workflow in mind. export Loops from whatever app... and load them as clips in MPC. Use them as Ableton.

    I talked to my local dealer and he said they're expecting them beginning to mid April.

  • mireko_2mireko_2

    @Ivan_Dj said:
    ^^^^I was hyped :)

    Haha :smile:

  • mireko_2mireko_2

    @alecsbuga said:
    Well, since the new MPCs use the full desktop software inside, and since MPC Software already imports iMPC Pro projects, I can't see why you can't do that. It's nice.

    But since I'm not using iMPC Pro anymore I have a different workflow in mind. export Loops from whatever app... and load them as clips in MPC. Use them as Ableton.

    I talked to my local dealer and he said they're expecting them beginning to mid April.

    My local said late April maybe even early May.. but I'm in Australia so we often get gear late because we are a relatively small market.

    $350 to go on my preorder and she's all paid for :love:

  • IcepulseIcepulse

    @mireko_2 said:

    @Dham said:

    @kobamoto said:
    a model in-between the size of the two would have been such a sweetspot

    The MPC Touch is smaller and lighter than the MPC Live. Tack on a MS Surface Pro than you would essentially have a nice portable setup which is also capable of hosting your essential plugins such as Omnisphere, Nexus, Waves,etc.

    NIce idea, but then your powering the Touch off the Surface, slow screen response because the Surface only runs integrated graphics. You also have to carry around two pieces of gear everywhere.. And your using windows etc

    I would rather just use the live standalone and plug it into my much more powerful studio tower on the rare occasion i want to use the full software, mix down a track, or use extra audio tracks.

    And you can't power the Touch from the host PC. It requires an external wall wart.

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    @Icepulse said:

    @mireko_2 said:

    @Dham said:

    @kobamoto said:
    a model in-between the size of the two would have been such a sweetspot

    The MPC Touch is smaller and lighter than the MPC Live. Tack on a MS Surface Pro than you would essentially have a nice portable setup which is also capable of hosting your essential plugins such as Omnisphere, Nexus, Waves,etc.

    NIce idea, but then your powering the Touch off the Surface, slow screen response because the Surface only runs integrated graphics. You also have to carry around two pieces of gear everywhere.. And your using windows etc

    I would rather just use the live standalone and plug it into my much more powerful studio tower on the rare occasion i want to use the full software, mix down a track, or use extra audio tracks.

    And you can't power the Touch from the host PC. It requires an external wall wart.

    That was the main reason I sold it.

  • mireko_2mireko_2

  • WillWill

    Best video yet. Actually showed the thing in normal use. That long section where he was trying to trim and nudge the audio track to start on bar 3... I hope that's not reality. Was painful. He also seemed to have quite a lot of false hits on the touch screen.

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    I already have a big idea about what it can do and how I'll use it.
    But seeing this video made me even more anxious about it :))
    Just SHIP it already dammit :))

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    @syrupcore said:
    Best video yet. Actually showed the thing in normal use. That long section where he was trying to trim and nudge the audio track to start on bar 3... I hope that's not reality. Was painful. He also seemed to have quite a lot of false hits on the touch screen.

    When you do these demos and you know you're filmed you kind of mess up things. He should've trimmed the beginning of the sample and nudge it to snap to 1/8 or smth and THEN stretch it to match the transients with the grid. YOu can do it pretty easy with the info on that screen.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    Yep, he clearly doesn't do allot of sample editing or he would have approached it differently

  • WillWill

    Whatever makes you guys feel better. :)

    I thought, finally seeing it in actual instead of in canned demo mode, the whole thing was as impressive as most people have been saying but damn, that was a lot of tap, tap again, tap again... worked.

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    @syrupcore said:
    Whatever makes you guys feel better. :)

    I thought, finally seeing it in actual instead of in canned demo mode, the whole thing was as impressive as most people have been saying but damn, that was a lot of tap, tap again, tap again... worked.

    Keep in mind you're looking at a standalone machine.
    Compare it with Korg E2S, Novation Circuit, Octatrack or Toraiz (which I haven't tested yet).
    And you'll see it's a beast.

  • Jose_BeeJose_Bee

    Regardless of the hardware, MPC 2.0 will be the deal sealer. TBH I dont have any faith that it will be good enough for first few releases as its been completely redeveloped. The current version 1.9 is decent but only really since 1.6.

  • Jose_BeeJose_Bee

    The biggest issue for me is the transition going between standalone and Computer mode requires the project to effectively be tracked out and you cant use any vsts etc in standalone, although I'm not sure if you can use the built in efx / synth in standalone or not.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @syrupcore said:
    Whatever makes you guys feel better. :)

    I thought, finally seeing it in actual instead of in canned demo mode, the whole thing was as impressive as most people have been saying but damn, that was a lot of tap, tap again, tap again... worked.

    Agreed. Let's hope Numark curate its bugs when them emerge...

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    @Jose_Bee said:
    The biggest issue for me is the transition going between standalone and Computer mode requires the project to effectively be tracked out and you cant use any vsts etc in standalone, although I'm not sure if you can use the built in efx / synth in standalone or not.

    You can use the built in efx only in standalone.
    As for tracking, it has a freeze like function which creates an audio track with a region on it. I've seen Pete (the dev) replying to someone on Twitter.

  • AudioGusAudioGus
    edited March 2017

    pretty cool. If it were half the price and half the size I would be twice as excited.

  • WillWill

    @alecsbuga said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Whatever makes you guys feel better. :)

    I thought, finally seeing it in actual instead of in canned demo mode, the whole thing was as impressive as most people have been saying but damn, that was a lot of tap, tap again, tap again... worked.

    Keep in mind you're looking at a standalone machine.
    Compare it with Korg E2S, Novation Circuit, Octatrack or Toraiz (which I haven't tested yet).
    And you'll see it's a beast.

    Oh, don't get me wrong: it absolutely seems like a beast. The good kind. And I still want one. I think. Definitely a little concerned that I'm too spoiled by iOS touch responsiveness and will get pissed at it. And that I'd be giving money to Jack.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    :) I've given way more money to apple and they've done way worse than jack
    But I concur on all fronts

  • kobamotokobamoto
    edited March 2017

    I think if the software is stable that everything else will work out fine because people who want to use vst while they are out and about can still pull their Lapps out and connect the mpc as controller, the other thing is that there is nothing comparable to compare it to, it's easy to forget it has iPad features, ableton live features, mpc features, Traktor or other dj software features, and it's a realtime live looper all in one 5 hr batt charged piece of hardware.
    Also you can put two hard drives inside, has sd slot, connect external drives,even thumb drives, and you can connect a keyboard midi controller to it directly without needing your laptop, so the only thing comparable to it is a laptop that weighs 5 more pounds, as far as other beat machines it has no peer, even a controller like a native instruments maschine paired with a laptop does not do what I listed above. You'd have to go out and buy the maschine controller/software package, ableton, some dj software, a looper, an iPad, etc... it would cost much more than the mpc-live to achieve the same workflow experience and capabilities and in the end you might not have still been able to achieve it.

    Basically the last thing that came close was th Yamaha su-700 and it wasn't that close

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