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@Paulyboy
Just checked again and Bluetooth audio doesn't work with Gadget 3.0.
Then i tested with my old iPad which still runs Gadget 2.9.3 and Bluetooth worked.
Probably got something to do with the audio input option. iWavestation, Odyssei and iM1 do work with Bluetooth audio.
But AudioShare, for instance, doesn't.
It would be nice to see a future update include ipad controller support for mac & vsts
Ha! Makes sense.
Ableton’s approach is quite specific, when you compare to most DAWs. But it does sound like it fits Gadget, which might be why Korg puts some emphasis on how the two pieces of software integrate. Not only do they feature Ableton Live prominently in the Gadget for macOS page but their “Export to Ableton Live Project” feature is probably the most flexible one, at this point.
Can’t wait for the video demos about this integration. For those who do like Ableton Live, demos are especially inspiring.
I, myself, am using Ableton, and this almost sealed the deal for me.
But, go back to what I said earlier. If I spend another $200 bucks on the desktop, I want to expand my arsenal. For example, I've always wanted to explore Serum, Massive, and VocaLive.
AFAIK Bluetooth is not supported with apps that record Audio on iOS, Apple doesn't allow it.
I think Cubasis has a workaround that allows BT for playback only, but most of the other apps that are capable of recording audio simply don't support BT headphones and speakers.
Had a couple of hours play with the desktop version.
I must say I like it.
Almost the same functionality. Apart from I see you have some extra options when copying bars which allow to choose if you copy notes or automation.
Also, interestingly, I see a folder on the desktop of 'user programs' for each Gadget. This looks like where your user presets for each Gadget are stored. However there appears to be no way to save or load different ones of these. Plus no obvious way to, say, pull all my presets from my phone or iPad onto my desktop version. Perhaps soon.
Also, new Gadget projects since v3 are called .proj2 and are now packages rather than single files, which, if unpacked in the finder reveal: imported audio, recorded audio and plugin samples(presumably Bilbao samples) in folders. One could presumably pretty easily do something to this audio (e.g. de-noise some vocals, add silience at the start etc) on a desktop and then save back into that folder I presume.
Another thing that's nice is that some of my crackly patches (when played on ipad and obviously over doing the CPU) sound super clean and perfect on the desktop.
Workflow is pretty good. There are some nice shortcuts for getting around. And you can zoom the entire 16 bars of automation area (for example) to fill the screen which seriously helps detailed automation tweaking.
Playing notes with the computer keyboard I found annoying because it locks to scale but it runs that scale across the keyboard in a not very helpful way - at least for A minor - so that playing the root triad chord is very tricky.
However, my solution was just to Bluetooth Link ThumbJam on my iPhone and that then worked fine as a handheld keyboard (no latency I could notice).
Installation process was easy.
Only crash I had was when saving a Wolfsburg patch from an old project I pulled in. If I clicked 'save' on the patch it crashed (every time). But if I clicked 'save as' it was fine.
Not sure about 'how much is it worth?' questions. But it's nice to have Gadget on my laptop and ill shortly have it on my massive monitor. (You can apparently install on as many devices as you wish - just not use it on more than one at a time).
I'm thinking about buying Gadget Mac, mainly for the added Ableton integration. Being able to to open your Gadget projects in Ableton with all your VST gadgets in place, and fader levels, pans and automation all present, is pure genius. Being able to swap out gadgets or layer up with more powerful VST's and add effects.
The only thing that really irks me is that I will own all of the gadgets on Mac but there's still 4 I don't own on iOS so I'll need to spend another £60 to get them on iOS for the whole workflow to make sense. I think this is the issue for KORG. It puts me off a bit. Every new gadget that comes out I'll get on the Mac but I'll have to buy on iOS.
Will we see the Ivory Piano DLC anytime for Mac?
Now that they no longer have an headphone jack on their iPhone, I sincerely hope Apple changes this to allow BT output! I definitely get strange audio artefacts when listening to Gadget through my AirPods. Not that I would ever use them for recording due to latency, but got editing they are quite handy.
72 hours has occurred since Korg Gadget 3.0 for Mac was released, and, we still don't have any deep videoreview or videodemo?
Why a company big as Korg hasn't made one is a mystery...
I was thinking about this too. I don't plan on buying iWaveStation or Arp Odyssei, but I imagine freezing those Mac tracks before importing into iOS might not be too bad a compromise. I wonder how the apps handle it now? Can anyone give any insight?
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 What's the case with the iOS IAPs on the mac version (and VST's)? Do you get all the M1 / Arp Odyssey extra presets and all the piano IAPs in Module by default?
Perspective.
Matt do u have any idea how to import all user samples at once into such as abu dhabi on mac?
Surely i dont have to select one at a time?
It seems when exporting to Ableton it does not export samples in abu dhabi & bilbo....and to add insult to injury you seem to only have the option of manually importing one sample at time (no batch import)!?
RSI ensues
I wonder if i save as a kit or preset...?
Hmmm kits / presets seem buggy at the moment.
I have 4 instances of Abu dabi and as i saved each preset and moved onto the next it did not show up as a preset in the other abu dabi.
Neither did it export the audio with it......
Oh dear i have gone and reordered my samples like a bell end and i dont know which ones i have imported and which ones i havent without some painstaking checking
...and to top it off all the samples i imported into vst abu dabi are now showing as duplicates with a greyed out icloud symbol next to them in gadget on mac next to the same user samples that have already been synced but did not transfer to the vst, what a ball ache
can anyone confirm what happens if you create a song on the Mac using gadgets that you don't own on iOS, then sync the song to the cloud and open on iOS.
What happens to the tracks containing gadgets you don't own?
I would like to know this as well being that I'm missing a few gadgets in the IOS version and might purchase them while they are still on sale to have parity between the two versions of Gadget. I don't have the Mac version yet.
Also still waiting to hear whether or not Bluetooth headphones work with the Mac version? They work with the Mac version of Garageband.
Not sure but with tracks opened on mac using the ivory piano iap on ipad it flags up the issue and selects another preset for you
Will have a look with miliptas and see what that does
Thanks. I was more thinking about the other way around, so Mac projects opened on iOS with missing gadgets
Holy cow, I already own some gadgets on iOS (Darwin, Bilbao, Abu Dhabi), but I just worked out that in order to get the rest of them (Kamata, Gladstone, Madrid, Module plus expansions, Lexington and Milpitas) to allow a good interoperability between iOS and Mac, I'll have to stump up another £145 on top of the price of the Mac version. So that's over £300 to have all gadgets across both operating systems.
I'm also assuming that every time a new gadget comes out the Mac version will get it for free and I'll have to buy it on iOS to maintain the workflow.
I really don't think Korg have thought this side of things through, if I start a song on iPad, then sync to the cloud, add a few gadgets on the Mac, then sync again, then unless I have stumped up the full £300++ then the Gadgets added on the Mac won't appear back on the iPad. Seems daft to me.
So I have been offered a further discount on Korg Gadget for Mac by a guy who says he bought it without permission from his wife so now he's attempting to make up for that by selling it off to somebody. He says you can't transfer licenses but he has offered to transfer his account to me and says I can change the name and email address on the account afterwards to mine.
I haven't ever purchased anything from Korg's website so don't have an account and I'm not certain if I'm very comfortable with this. Is this just a bunch of BS or is it really possible to do this?
Unfortunately, I think they have thought it though very clearly.
Lol you know it
Yes I guess they have! Just doesn't feel like a great deal
I'd be very wary, very very wary.
i.e. I wouldn't.
Not a good idea for him either because u could run up a tab on him and do other evil hackery.