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The JX03 looks interesting, would need to use a controller keyboard with it though, space is indeed an issue, within reason, the more compact the better as long as it doesn't make it difficult to play.
And it has the oscilloscope which at first seems a bit of a gimmick, until you realise it will work on the incoming audio signal.....so if I come up with a sound in an iOS analoge modelled synth, I could send the output to the Monologue, eyeball the waveform, then try and build the same or very similar waveform on the Monologue.
One thing that strikes me when reading through this thread is how many different things are out there at this price range, I had no idea there was so much choice
Sounds nice.....would need to find a secondhand one though, just a bit too much new.
I've found it for £305 new
I'm a big fan of Waldorf synths having had the XTK
Not as impressed with that one, and no over impressed with the programming matrix thingy, it would be hard to balance 2 setting from different sections as you would have to keep switching back and forth.
Yeah takes some getting used to. More knobs on my XTK. The Blofeld is easier with the two main knobs and the matrix. It's such an adaptable synth in real life. Surprising the range of sound you can get out of it. Just can't find a video that really shows it's range of sounds off that well.
I sold my blofeld meyboard cheap because the encoders stopped responding correctly. They would slip like on ice. Common issue.
Someone close this thread, it's totally GAS INFECTED
At £300, do not worry too much about any reoccurring hardware issues people post here. I can find links for a common hardware issue for every synth posted here
(cept for the really new ones that haven't been out long).
The Blofeld sounds awesome, very capable little box. The encoders are trash on every other unit, to the point where they barely work at all. Mine had bad encoders from the start, sent it back for service, got it back with slightly better working encoders, that got really bad again in just weeks.
Can always use an editor and use it as a software-controlled module, but that kinda defeats the purpose of getting hardware in the first place. But then again it does sound awesome. Largo I think is Waldorfs software version of it, same engine with some minor differences here and there.
You can find encoder problems on many synths at this price. That's not all. Keybeds are notorious for being faulty or developing faults on keyboards of this price too.
I can emphasise with people that have issues. When I used to have lots of hardware, faults and issues were very common. Not only at this price level either!
That's the thing though, it's often pot luck (
) with hardware. Most of the hardware we are discussing here probably has a high percentage returns for certain issues. Yes, you will find issues that will worry you for most of these synths. They have been built to a price point and corners have been cut. 50:50? No. Not on any of this gear. But some issues may be up to a 1 in 5 chance of something problematic.
If you really want to reduce chances of problem hardware in a synth, look at higher prices of brands that have a good track record.
I had the blofeld keyboard. Built like a tank and sounded fantastic, but when you want to tweak the filter cutoff and you are on your second full 360 turn and nothing happens.... and blofeld ignored my many emails and even my posts on their forum where i just needed info so i could purchase encoders and try to fix it. Zero customer support.
Try out the monologue in a store. Looks nice.
I'll tell you what, don't get anything.
Put the three hundred quid away to earn interest, and wait until the Deep Mind 12 comes out, by which time it'll have earned enough in compound interest to buy one.
Andy is already 50! Lol
Oh, the Blofeld can sound amazing but seems totally counter to the original request.
A Waldorf Pulse + , with CV gate... (only the rare "+" model does that) as the Microbrute, that sounds really nice...
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A Novation Minova, much cheaper is a good companion to me also.
Yes indeed, it is hands on playability and programmability is the main goal, so menu diving, or complex patching is a no no. I could cope with a little patching a la microbrute, but don't want to need loads of patch sheets when trying to switch between sounds I already made.
Totally get that. BS2 + Monologue both support presets.
It is a close run thing between the two, Korg has the motion sequencing and oscilloscope, but the BS, well, it's a BassStation, and the original was a real workhorse for me.
Microbrute from what I heard was the dirtiest sounding, but there have been a few negatives mentioned on here and the mini keys wouldn't be the best in the middle of a heated performance.
Some of the modular boxes can sound really dirty, but no keys, patching, and they tend to be a bit above my budget. Maybe something to go on the list for 60th
I would say that the microbrute, which I'm fascinated by in some way because of the modulatable waveshaping capability, is the sort of thing that should be recommended if someone was to say they were thinking about buying a pair of Volcas. It costs about that much, and I think it'd be a better buy. In your case, you're doing it the other way and adding a smaller component to a larger wider set, and in that case I'd suggest the microbrute would remove value from that larger set (and remove that amount of money that could have been put toward a Deepmind later).
Rather strangely my first thought when given my budget was volcas.......Bass, FM and possible keys.......then I thought that what I was actually missing wasn't really a particular type of sound but playability........hence the search for a single synth......Deepmind will not be affordable unfortunately unless something magical happens on the finance front.
I never thought the Volcas sounded good. I had the bass and keys. I'd go for monologue or minilogue over them any day.
Monologue allows you to modulate the wave shape via LFO (which can also be set to a one-shot for a more ENV type mod).
I dunno. I'm not trying to shill for the monologue but I'd say it's considerably 'dirtier' than the brutes. Indeed, it seems almost difficult to do 'soft' with the thing!
With regard to mini-keys... the monologue has 'slim keys'. They're bigger than mini keys but not as large as regular sized keys. They also have a fairly limited throw range. That actually makes for very fast synth playing/action but might not be your cup of tea. Also, like the BS2, it has only two octaves which they've somewhat oddly set up as E-E instead of the more traditional C-C (a nod to the bass guitar range according to Tats).
I just tested my iphone, with Apollo for bluetooth.
My point is : why not an other iPad, then , add DRC , add Apollo, connect to your mess...
Just buy a good mini-jack / Jack or XLR cable.
Then, change to any cool synths you want...
With AUM, add some effects in it.
Save your presets easily, load them by midi (hopefully soon on AUM)
Next step, having all connected easily and clean, with a Focusrite Scarlett 18i8, or SoundCraft Signature 12 MTK mixer, or K-Mix.
I had to cancel my Monologue pre-order back in December, already thinking about selling something and get it, even though I usually never sell gear as I always end up regretting selling everything I sell (anyone wanna buy a Modal synth btw?)
The keys are Korgs slim keys as mentioned. If you can play keys at least somewhat decent-ish, you can play slim keys without any issues. People who moan about slim keys, they're the first to use the "chord" button on a synth anyways. Mini keys on the other hand can definitely be a pain sometimes, they do the job on smaller synths and grooveboxes like Roland JD-Xi (which you should totally get above anything else mentioned in here, if you can find one at £300).
The slim keys on the Minilogue have absolutely amazing velocity response by the way (there are 9-10 velocity curves available as well), super smooth response across the whole velocity range. I'm assuming it's the same on the Monologue, even tho it's a 2 octave keybed and a monophonic synth. I wish manufacturers would pay more attention to velocity response on their bigger synths with semi-weighted keys and whatnot, even high-end stuff today have really poor keys in this regard. It's like they all just kinda assume that people buying synths are only doing Jarre and Vangelis covers. With a sequencer.
It's a good point. The Korg slim keys are very very playable as a keyboard player with big hands. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise.