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Not that I'm aware of
My main issue with GB is the random "optimizing performance" dialog. Which creates anxiety when using it
Other than this it's fantastic. Another feature request would be mixing busses, but I doubt we'll ever see that. Now it just about better and better AUv3 effects and instruments
Since they added Alchemy and improved iCloud integration with Logic Pro, I have no complaints about GarageBand iOS. Animoog and Model 15 both have IAA control panels now, too, which inspired me to delete some of my less-used synths and start using fewer apps better. The iPad has finally transcended its "sketch pad/synth module" status and become integral to my workflow.
The most recent update added lots of individual track effects & options. Not sure I need more delay automation than this. Or you probably mean automation as in the delay changing within the track, which cannot be done as far as I know. That would be nice.
Can other DAWs output at better quality for more mastering headroom? I think I read this was a Garageband limitation (limited to 16bit?).
Program change ?...Ok I'm out...
What does this mean?
What GB is missing ? Program Change on my opinion.
@AnalogCortex I guess some of what you are saying > @AnalogCortex said:
Yes it does have some things that I did not realise was there, my bad.
But for myself when mixing I very rarely add delay, echo and filters to the whole track which is where I would use automation add these effects in small places to add variation.
I guess there are ways around this like doubling up a track and adding effects to only one!
By the way I love GarageBand along with a whole plethora of other apps which makes sure that I never complete a single song
Yes 16bit output is one of the limiting factors for me, but I still use GB because I find it a very creative environment in which to work. And yes, Cubasis can do up to 24bit, Auria as well and maybe higher? (I can't recall and I don't have it installed in my current iPad).
My biggest GB wish item would be for MIDI export...and sure Link, and more automation,...and all the other stuff previously mentioned.
Glad to be helpful
This.
I guess it's the Apple thing, or the fact that there's a more fully-featured one on the OS, but it seems we probably give GB a bit of a hard ride considering....
I miss proper Midi Implementation and a way to route audio to other apps. Until then it's just a great ,useful toy.
Does the 16bit vs 24bit output result in a noticeable difference to the average listener?
Took it for a spin tonight and the new FX section in the last update is pretty nifty. You can add Drive, Chorus, Flange, Phase, Distortion etc, plus AU effects, to any track. It certainly makes it a lot more useful for mixing.
Don't think the compressor has a release control though, which is a shame, as that is one of the most useful knobs on a compressor.
You can definitely do quite a lot in GB now, although there's no doubt you can still push things a lot further in Auria.
So out of curiosity I tried taking a GB mix that sounded a bit weedy and then really beefing it up in Auria, and then coming back and trying to do the same back in GB. Just using 3 tracks from GB (drums, bass, and the smart guitar). I found it a lot easier to go further in Auria, partly because the compression is easier to control (for transient shaping) and also GB doesn't have any bus processing or limiting tools so that is a definite limitation.
This is the original GarageBand file
After mixing in Auria
Trying to achieve something similar back in GB
I was able to make the Auria mix much louder thanks to the limiter (Pro L), and also much denser with Saturn and the various compressors. Also the guitar sound was much easier to shape with the more versatile compression (to attenuate the transients and increase the sustain). I also used Timeless and Pro R on the guitar.
This isn't to say you can't make good mixes with GB, you obviously can, but a more fully-featured DAW will let you shape the sounds to a much greater extreme.
This is good and useful/helpful stuff Mister R. I don't think there's any question (especially not now
) that Auria can deliver the goods more tellingly, but GB is a good place to scribble song outlines...
Probably not if it's recorded, mixed, and mastered well, but it's the mixing and mastering that we're concerned with here. In my feeble audio tech understanding, more bits gives your audio tools more data with which to work...and hopefully that extra data can allow for more effects processing without messing up the sound. More bit depth and higher sample rates allow for a higher fidelity end result. Someone here can better explain but that's the gist of it for me.
Lack of midi and stem export make GB annoying for me.
I love the smart instruments and the ease at getting ideas down, but I want to then edit and mix them with Studio One on my PC. At the moment, if you start something in GB, you are stuck in GB unless you have a Mac and Logic.
and that couldn't be acomplished by apps, using our host AB.,and of course the mastering apps. A" hard ride" for sure Mr Goodyear
@richardyot Thank you very much for taking the time to make this demo. The Auria mix clearly sounds better than the GarageBand mix. Would you mind sharing the brief details of the comparison?
For example, I assume you imported the 3 tracks into Aurua as one file? Or are you able to import them as 3 separate tracks? In other words, did you eq the tracks separately in Auria or together as a "song"?
Then, when attempting to match Auria s quality back in GarageBand, what steps did you take?
I exported each track out of GB individually, by muting the others, exporting the song as a lossless AIF, then rinsing and repeating for all the other tracks. I do this all the time for GB projects, I use the Drummer and synths in a lot of my songs.
To be honest I wouldn't necessarily say the Auria mix is "better" - what I was trying to demonstrate is that in Auria you can push things much further. So this meant I could shape the sounds in more extreme ways, for example on the guitar I could attenuate the sharp transients more, while accentuating the sustain (because of the more powerful compression tools). On the drums I could really beef up and warm up the kick drum (by using a multiband compressor), and on the overall mix I could create a more powerful, bassy, and glued together sound (by EQing and limiting the Master Bus).
And Auria would also allow you a lot more control on the reverb and delay, because you can control the tonality of the reverb tails and the delay tails, which you can't do in GB.
A lot of this can be remedied in GB by using AU effects on the tracks, so for example if a multiband compression AU was to come on the market it would then be possible to apply it to the Drummer track for similar results as one would get in Auria with Pro-MB.
However the main drawback against mixing in GB is that there isn't a Master Bus, and also to a lesser extent the lack of AUX sends. Without a Master Bus (or any kind of bus sends) you can't compress or limit your full mix, or parts of your mix, without needing to mixdown and use an external app (such as a mastering app). And to be fair I think Cubasis (as far as I remember) also lacks a Master Bus, so GB is far from unique there.
But just to put things into perspective, Auria and the full suite of FabFilter plugins will cost several hundred pounds or dollars, whereas GB is free. And while GB is limited in some ways, it's been getting better with every update and the actual algorithms and effects that Apple do include are always of very high quality. IMO it's simplicity is a strength, and it makes the app accessible and easy to use.
See, this is somewhat off putting to me. I think most would agree that Auria is capable of things GarageBand isn't, but to declare GarageBand "a good place to scribble song outlines" is insulting to those of us who think (and have been told) our GarageBand productions sound pretty darn good.
A GarageBand iOS production most certainly can sound great, and professional. Especially to the average listener who won't be doing a side by side comparison with the same song slightly tweaked to sound slightly better.
I'm sure someone could take a professional sounding song produced in Auria, then "improve" it slightly using an even more capable set of tools to produce an even better sounding mix. Does that mean the original Auria production can no longer be considered "professional"? Would this new set of tools thereby reduce Auria to nothing more than "a good place to scribble song outlines"?
I'm sure @JohnnyGoodyear wasn't intending to disparage GB, which he is a fan of.
Ultimately the way I see it is that GB is a great suite of instruments with some workable mixing tools, whereas Auria is a more fully-fledged mixing environment. Auria also has some instruments, but they're not as much fun to use as the ones in GB - it's a case of each app having it's own strengths and weaknesses.
Actually Cubasis does have a Master bus. AU effects can be applied there. I'm okay with GB not having one for now because I've always tended to avoid mastering in the same project as the mix.
The lack of AU in GB's sends is disappointing though, because this is where stuff like @VirSyn AudioVerb could really shine.
I have Auria Pro, but I think it needs an iPad friendly UI overhaul. All of the reasons I want to create on iPad are totally obviated by its current implementation I might as well use PT on the laptop.
Thanks for the correction about Cubasis, I hadn't spotted the Master Bus inserts.
GarageBand does let you use AU effects as inserts on each track (although I haven't got around to testing it yet), so in theory you should be able to use the Virsyn Reverb.
A quick walkthrough on adding AU effects as inserts in GB:
With your track selected tap the little blue mixer/fader button, then tap on the Plug-Ins and EQ type:
Then in the Insert List tap Edit:
Select your AU from the list:
Then tap on its icon to edit the parameters:
Yes they are available as inserts. I'm grateful for that...but they are not available yet in the Send Bus which GarageBand curiously calls "Master Effects". Right now this only supports internal GB effects. But a Send Bus is ideal for AudioVerb to cut down on the number of instances needed.
Oh I see - there is no AUX bus bar the included Delay and Reverb. Probably not going to change. Does the Mac version of GB allow for AUX sends?
Wow, thank you for this. I didn't notice this AU option. Another silly toy for the scribble pad!
Not sure if the Mac version does, but I'm guessing/hoping the iOS version will get this functionality at NAMM 2018. Lately Apple seems to be adding one significant thing to GB each year