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What are GarageBand Users Missing?

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  • @realdavidai said:
    I could really use a Mute clips feature

  • @Marcel said:

    @realdavidai said:
    I could really use a Mute clips feature

    That mutes the whole track. Looking to mute a specific clip in a track

  • edited March 2017

    @realdavidai said:

    @Marcel said:

    @realdavidai said:
    I could really use a Mute clips feature

    That mutes the whole track. Looking to mute a specific clip in a track

    Ok, now I understand what you mean. That indeed would be handy (also fade in and out of any clip would be handy, that is one of my wishes - which I wrote earlier).

    In case you didn't thought of this solution: to mute a clip in a track, you can: duplicate the track, move the clip to that duplicate track and mute that track.

  • I am impressed with GarageBand & had fun with it for what it is. I felt it was much more a musical sketch pad for experimentation when it was on my iPad. I tried to do a track like I would in Auria Pro but the shortcomings were too deep.

    I have quite a few songs I am working on that began on analog 8 track reel to reel or on Tascam 488 mkII 8 track PortaStudio that are just basic drum, bass, rhythm guitars, etc. The import in GB is quite fiddly so even when avoiding a track already underway with a stereo rhythm track to import and starting from jumpstreet isn't fluid to me either.

    The lack of automation and the untraditional mixer/channel settings just get tiresome if I'm doing a quote/unquote 'regular' tracks, if I'm experimenting it's easier to not let it get annoying but still...I admit Auria is so much like a desktop DAW it's pretty much spoilt me.

    I am on under 3GB with my Air 2 64GB so I deleted GB for now. It's a great app, but just depends on what your expectations are.

  • @RustiK said:

    @realdavidai said:
    If anyone uses GB and also @Virsyn Addictive Pro try a test project with more than one instance. Then close GarageBand and re-open it. On my end it will freeze GarageBand 100 percent of the time.

    The bug is Addictives issue not GB.

    FYI

    Agreed, and possibly not fixable. This along with the BH2 instability as AUv3 might signal the end of the line for AU.

  • I am a Logic user and would love to use GB to record live music on my iPad and then import it into Logic.

    There are 2 reasons why it doesn't work for me:

    Not being able to record more than one track at a time.
    16 bit is really not an option.

    I use Auria Pro and love it.

  • Hope I'm not out of line to resurrect an old thread, but I just had to give major props to the GB drummer. I just recorded a few tracks using "Mason", "Darcy", and "Logan" and honestly the drum parts are outstanding. When I first encountered it it seemed a little gimmicky but I gave it a shot for fun and found that some of the preset patterns sounded pretty good. Then I saw Doug's video about splitting the track up into as many parts as desired, with each part being as many measures as desired, and editing each part. Holy cow! I would strongly encourage anyone who wants high-quality, realistic-sounding acoustic drum parts to spend a little time getting to know this feature. (I know this is highly subjective and no, I don't work for Apple). I end up exporting the finished drum tracks to Audioshare where I convert to WAV, then import into Auria where I can beef them up with various Auria exclusive plugins. 3 things I wish, and would gladly pay for:

    1) The ability to set the levels of each individual instrument in the kit. I find sometimes the shaker can be a little loud relative to the cymbals, for instance. (I think in Darcy but not sure).
    2) This is a biggie. I'd love to have an adjoining kit that matches the sounds each drummer uses so that I could add my own hit or cymbal crash here and there. There have been times that I've needed an extra crash or snare hit that the pattern just wouldn't give me, no matter how I edited it. I end up using a GB drum kit to provide the needed crash or hit, but they don't exactly match. Most listeners wouldn't notice, especially behind the other instruments and vocals, but it bugs me.
    3) More drummers! As I said, Mason, Logan, and Darcy have some really nice beats and sounds but I'd love even more variety.

    If Apple decided to release a Drummer-only app with these additions, I'd gladly pay for it what I paid for my most expensive apps. I think it's that good.

  • @Joel75 said:
    2) This is a biggie. I'd love to have an adjoining kit that matches the sounds each drummer uses so that I could add my own hit or cymbal crash here and there. There have been times that I've needed an extra crash or snare hit that the pattern just wouldn't give me, no matter how I edited it. I end up using a GB drum kit to provide the needed crash or hit, but they don't exactly match. Most listeners wouldn't notice, especially behind the other instruments and vocals, but it bugs me.

    It is gimmicky, but it's a good kind of gimmicky because it's user friendly. Logic Pro also has a Drummer with different personalities, but I don't know how similar it is to GB.

    In Logic and GB for Mac, you can convert Drummer regions to editable MIDI regions, so you might want to see if you can do the same with GB for iOS.

  • 96k lol im good

  • That was interesting, @telecharge, thanks for sharing that. Just tried it on iPad, and there's no way to paste the copied drummer track into a MIDI track set to another drum set. So cool idea, but no go on iPad. Thanks though!

  • @Joel75 said:
    That was interesting, @telecharge, thanks for sharing that. Just tried it on iPad, and there's no way to paste the copied drummer track into a MIDI track set to another drum set. So cool idea, but no go on iPad. Thanks though!

    Can you do the same thing as in the video, then copy the pasted MIDI data to another drum set?

  • That's what I tried, but it seems that what's copied from Drummer is audio, not MIDI data. Which would explain why there's no Paste option when I tap in the track assigned to the other drum set. Can't paste audio into a MIDI track. I bet GB on the Mac copies the MIDI data from a Drummer track but on the iPad it only copies the audio.

  • edited May 2017

    @Joel75 said:

    2) This is a biggie. I'd love to have an adjoining kit that matches the sounds each drummer uses so that I could add my own hit or cymbal crash here and there. There have been times that I've needed an extra crash or snare hit that the pattern just wouldn't give me, no matter how I edited it. I end up using a GB drum kit to provide the needed crash or hit, but they don't exactly match. Most listeners wouldn't notice, especially behind the other instruments and vocals, but it bugs me.

    I think you can accomplish what you want by doing this: make a Drummer part with the wanted crash or snare. Merge the track. Now you have an audio only track. Cut everything, but leave the crash or snare alone. There you have your wanted extra stuff.
    You could make a track which consists of the extra stuff for a drummer, save it (as a song), open it in audioshare, and then you have in audioshare an audiokit of a Drummer which you can paste into GB when you need it. Name it Logan kit, or Darcy kit, etc.

  • That absolutely brilliant, @Marcel! I've never used the Merge function, but I think I understand what it would do to a Drummer track. I'll try it as soon as I'm able and report back. Thanks for the idea!

  • @anickt said:

    @richardyot said:

    @boone51 said:
    So many replies to this thread by people likely smarter than me, and I'll confess to not reading them all. But I'd just say the ability to use it as an input. The
    Imitation is even more amplified by the fact that I *can actually get music out of it, but it's a windows style feature that requires you to export it clip by clip. It's "stupid". It's downright stubborn. And pointless. What gets me really deleting the app the quickest is when I realize that on top of that, it's intentional. If it were an app by any other developer you'd laugh at it and mock it for being so stupid. The app is wonderful. The restrictions imposed arbitrarily on it make it the most well thought out and designed labor of love for the developers that amounts to a slap in the face to their users.

    Well of course if it was any other developer, you could request and they would likely listen. WML, Steinberg, even Korg would likely listen to user requests. But, this is Apple....

    Apple listens. You just have to speak up. I have had a number of email correspondences with them regarding Final Cut Pro X. They have made major improvements based on user feedback. Give it a try.

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/garageband.html

    ^^this. I've also done the same with logic. I also work for apple and can testify that there is a dedicated team for feedback and they read every submission.

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  • @tja said:

    @8BitSamurai said:
    ^^this. I've also done the same with logic. I also work for apple and can testify that there is a dedicated team for feedback and they read every submission.

    Then, please read this: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/18616/what-selection-of-apps-for-a-total-beginner#latest

    Contains 2 sections of ramblings about GB ;-)

    GB gets a little extra bashing simply because it's an Apple product. It's very fashionable to bash Apple. ;)

  • @anickt said:
    GB gets a little extra bashing simply because it's an Apple product. It's very fashionable to bash Apple. ;)

    But back before Apple became one of the richest companies in the world, there were the many insufferable Apple cultists (some still exist). What goes around, comes around.

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  • @tja said:

    @anickt said:
    GB gets a little extra bashing simply because it's an Apple product. It's very fashionable to bash Apple. ;)

    No, I can differentiate.

    I love iOS and I love the hardware, mostly (dropping headphone sockets in iPhone 7 and later is totally unacceptable, for example).
    Would never like to go back to Android.

    But that does not mean that I like everything - I can only write about what I think.

    Apple likes to be closed shop, and this is just part of that same story.
    And this is wrong!

    I needed to cut open my multi-multi Dollar original iPad hardcase to be able to connect my Sennheiser headphones.... or even the headset at my work,
    Of course the Apple earphones fit without that.

    This is just stupid from Apple. And GB shows that as well... face it ;-)
    Critic where critic is due.

    By your own admission you're very new to iOS music apps so i think this is a case of lack of experience and knowledge on your side

    GB has some flaws, no doubt about it, but it is a very capable and intuitive iOS DAW

  • Doesn't garage export into audioshare ? If I bothered with garage band (I don't due to storage issues) I'd just export stems into Auria pro or something else. Not sure why anyone would stick to just one app. It's pretty much my workflow with gadget as well. Make good stems. Export into something more comprehensive.

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  • edited May 2017

    @tja said:

    @jn2002dk said:
    By your own admission you're very new to iOS music apps so i think this is a case of lack of experience and knowledge on your side

    Yes, this is absolutely true. And I am asking out of this reason.

    GB has some flaws, no doubt about it, but it is a very capable and intuitive iOS DAW

    I try again and again to do something with GB, but again and again I hate how it does things or cannot do things.

    But still, I am trying ;-)
    I did not delete it so far - maybe I can get better friends

    Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it's everyones cup of tea. In fact, i rarely use it anymore. I'm just saying that it does some things very well and others less so

    For the longest time it had very limited effects but now with AU effects it's becoming a very viable solution. The Alchemy synth player doesn't hurt either. I also like the smart instruments which i sorta use through the Logic Remote and the drummer, which is a cut down version of the one in Logic, is very good

    At the end of the day though, it's all about finding the workflow that suits you. If that doesn't include GB that's fine, there are plenty of other great options such as Cubasis 2 or Auria Pro

  • @tja - You are not very specific about the problems you encounter with GB.

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  • @tja said:
    I wrote this and that specific, and already got some help - see that other topic.
    The main point is, that for me, GB is just not intuitively usable.
    Anyway, from time to time I will give it a new try ;-)

    GB clicked for me once I decided to not use "sections" and instead use a project length timeline with AU's. Now it's my preferred iOS DAW with Cubasis closely following.

    Hoping for more quality AU's to feed GB....apesoft Mood might be a good one once it's released.

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  • When/If GarageBand gets controller automation and editing for AUv3's and internally recorded instruments it will be pretty darn powerful. I mean you can 'record' pitch-bend and mod-wheel but there is no way to edit the recorded data. All AUv3 parameters are visible but once again, no way to record or automate them.

    There is one Youtuber out there whom I see as the uncrowned king of Garageband.

    I learned a lot about GarageBand by watching many of his videos :)

  • @Samu said:
    I learned a lot about GarageBand by watching many of his videos :)

    Thanks for the share. That's twice I've seen you recommend his videos, so I went ahead and bookmarked the channel.

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