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What are GarageBand Users Missing?

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  • @AnalogCortex said:

    This is good and useful/helpful stuff Mister R. I don't think there's any question (especially not now :)) that Auria can deliver the goods more tellingly, but GB is a good place to scribble song outlines...

    See, this is somewhat off putting to me. I think most would agree that Auria is capable of things GarageBand isn't, but to declare GarageBand "a good place to scribble song outlines" is insulting to those of us who think (and have been told) our GarageBand productions sound pretty darn good.

    I certainly was NOT intending to insult you, your work, your mixes, your productions, your intentions, or your talent. Just simply stating my personal experience as regards where GB fits into the fiddling about I do....

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AnalogCortex said:

    This is good and useful/helpful stuff Mister R. I don't think there's any question (especially not now :)) that Auria can deliver the goods more tellingly, but GB is a good place to scribble song outlines...

    See, this is somewhat off putting to me. I think most would agree that Auria is capable of things GarageBand isn't, but to declare GarageBand "a good place to scribble song outlines" is insulting to those of us who think (and have been told) our GarageBand productions sound pretty darn good.

    I certainly was NOT intending to insult you, your work, your mixes, your productions, your intentions, or your talent. Just simply stating my personal experience as regards where GB fits into the fiddling about I do....

    No worries @JohnnyGoodyear. I understand what you were trying to convey. For some of us, GarageBand is much more than a scribble pad because that's wht we choose to make it. For you, GarageBand is useful in the role as scribble pad, but you choose to further your production using other methods.

  • @AnalogCortex said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AnalogCortex said:

    This is good and useful/helpful stuff Mister R. I don't think there's any question (especially not now :)) that Auria can deliver the goods more tellingly, but GB is a good place to scribble song outlines...

    See, this is somewhat off putting to me. I think most would agree that Auria is capable of things GarageBand isn't, but to declare GarageBand "a good place to scribble song outlines" is insulting to those of us who think (and have been told) our GarageBand productions sound pretty darn good.

    I certainly was NOT intending to insult you, your work, your mixes, your productions, your intentions, or your talent. Just simply stating my personal experience as regards where GB fits into the fiddling about I do....

    No worries @JohnnyGoodyear. I understand what you were trying to convey. For some of us, GarageBand is much more than a scribble pad because that's wht we choose to make it. For you, GarageBand is useful in the role as scribble pad, but you choose to further your production using other methods.

    All good. The irony perhaps is that while I don't use it for much more than what I do, I have been railing a bit around here about what I think is a weird sort of snobbery concerning GB. If there were no such app and some cool young coder dropped it on us out of the blue we'd mostly be in an uproar of exaltation. Of course then we'd be busting their sacred balls over not having AB input. And rightly so :)

  • If anyone uses GB and also @Virsyn Addictive Pro try a test project with more than one instance. Then close GarageBand and re-open it. On my end it will freeze GarageBand 100 percent of the time.

  • Wish you could use garageband as an audiobus input. Kinda frustrating. I guess apple doesn't want anyone stealing their sounds or something? Really strange

  • @Panthemusicalgoat said:
    Wish you could use garageband as an audiobus input. Kinda frustrating. I guess apple doesn't want anyone stealing their sounds or something? Really strange

    Yeah, that does suck. Would be great to be able to
    route GarageBand through Audiobus into a more advanced DAW output.

  • @Panthemusicalgoat said:
    Wish you could use garageband as an audiobus input. Kinda frustrating. I guess apple doesn't want anyone stealing their sounds or something? Really strange

    Perhaps my biggest current iOS regret....things can't be too bad :)

  • I wish it allowed setting of MIDI channels per track. I often record MIDI concurrently into tracks from Noatikl 3. Works well with Cubasis, Auria Pro and even Gadget, but can't do it on GarageBand as far as I can tell.

  • @Panthemusicalgoat said:
    Wish you could use garageband as an audiobus input. Kinda frustrating. I guess apple doesn't want anyone stealing their sounds or something? Really strange

    On the flip side the iconnectaudio4+ should be able to route the audio into another app. will test it myself as soon as I'm able.....

  • I wish you could use the amp models as fx plugins for the included instruments. I also wish it was possible to simulate guitar feedback and create long drones with it.

  • I suppose I'm slightly off on the question, but what GB lacks for me is a logical interface. Yes this is highly subjective. GB spends so much effort trying to look sleek and simple, that some features of the UI just seem counter intuitive. Yeah it's a pretty great app for many uses and costs peanuts (actually was free when I got it), I personally just don't find it a pleasure to use. The worse crime for myself that GB inflicts on the world though is as mentioned its self isolationist idealism :(

  • @crony said:
    What GB is missing ? Program Change on my opinion.

    I am of the opinion that including this capability - while a good idea - would impact the way GB's UI is laid out. With each track line you have the associated instrument icon and the first question is: How do you use this scheme in a Program Change scenario? Or do you? And if you don't you probably end up with a redesigned UI that could significantly impact the way GB looks & operates.

  • I miss midi control over live loops cells and playlist. It will be perfect for live performing...

  • I wish stem export were possible..

  • @AnalogCortex said:

    Yeah, that does suck. Would be great to be able to route GarageBand through Audiobus into a more advanced DAW output.

    You could export your GB audio via your favorite tool app (i.e. Audioshare) then to your DAW and work around it, no?

  • edited February 2017

    @Brain said:

    @AnalogCortex said:

    Yeah, that does suck. Would be great to be able to route GarageBand through Audiobus into a more advanced DAW output.

    You could export your GB audio via your favorite tool app (i.e. Audioshare) then to your DAW and work around it, no?

    Yes you can export, and you don't have to use Audioshare for this, you can just export a GB track directly to another daw (via "open in").

  • edited February 2017

    I think GB is great, it is my fav app for recording music.

    What I miss in GB is what they call in Auria: sub. That is to group tracks and to set the volume level and fx of that whole group.

    Another thing I miss in GB is the possibility to fade in and out every audio wave. One can do it manually but it is a bit prehistoric: I sometimes make a fade-out by cutting the last part into pieces and place every piece in a different track, and set the volume of each track lower. Stupid workaround, but it works. It is better though to have a fader possibility in every piece of audio. Even Daw Multitrack has this.

  • @Marcel said:
    Yes you can export, and you don't have to use Audioshare for this, you can just export a GB track directly to another daw (via "open in").

    Well, it just goes to show you how much I get around to using all the fancy stuff.

  • @realdavidai said:
    If anyone uses GB and also @Virsyn Addictive Pro try a test project with more than one instance. Then close GarageBand and re-open it. On my end it will freeze GarageBand 100 percent of the time.

    The bug is Addictives issue not GB.

    FYI

  • So many replies to this thread by people likely smarter than me, and I'll confess to not reading them all. But I'd just say the ability to use it as an input. The
    Imitation is even more amplified by the fact that I *can actually get music out of it, but it's a windows style feature that requires you to export it clip by clip. It's "stupid". It's downright stubborn. And pointless. What gets me really deleting the app the quickest is when I realize that on top of that, it's intentional. If it were an app by any other developer you'd laugh at it and mock it for being so stupid. The app is wonderful. The restrictions imposed arbitrarily on it make it the most well thought out and designed labor of love for the developers that amounts to a slap in the face to their users.

  • @boone51 said:
    So many replies to this thread by people likely smarter than me, and I'll confess to not reading them all. But I'd just say the ability to use it as an input. The
    Imitation is even more amplified by the fact that I *can actually get music out of it, but it's a windows style feature that requires you to export it clip by clip. It's "stupid". It's downright stubborn. And pointless. What gets me really deleting the app the quickest is when I realize that on top of that, it's intentional. If it were an app by any other developer you'd laugh at it and mock it for being so stupid. The app is wonderful. The restrictions imposed arbitrarily on it make it the most well thought out and designed labor of love for the developers that amounts to a slap in the face to their users.

    Well of course if it was any other developer, you could request and they would likely listen. WML, Steinberg, even Korg would likely listen to user requests. But, this is Apple....

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:
    appregiator apps. link. like 99% of whats awesome in ios.... garageband is fantastic. but i hate the fact i cannot automate things or input midi externally. (by externally i mean by external sequencers like midi steps, midilfos, patterning,modstep,etc.)

    If I found some riff or pattern or beat I liked on some other app or musical appliance (or even a song) not much could stop me from flat-out emulating it in GB, providing I could find a suitable GB instrument. That being said, you might find that some of GB's instruments have shortcomings (in cases) but you might come up with something useful out of the morass anyway, perhaps with an ear towards a future endeavor.

  • I'm having an issue exporting from Garageband into Auria Pro and am hoping someone could help. @richardyot, it sounds like this is something you may be familiar with. I have a 16 measure Drummer pattern that I'd like to get into AP to run through my newly acquired MicroWarmer. I select the song in the GB song list, export to AP with 44.1, 16 bit, AIFF selected (highest quality). AP opens automatically, but when I go to import the file, it's in the import list as 0 seconds long, 32 bit. I tried exporting from GB into Audioshare, then into AP, and have the exact same issue. My workaround was to export into Twisted Wave, then do Audiocopy/Audiopaste into AP (although now I am thinking I probably could have used Audioshare for that...). Is there some trick I'm missing to export from Garageband into Auria Pro without having to involve another app to use Audiocopy? I suspect the transformation from a 16 bit file into a 32 bit file is to blame. Thanks in advance for any help!

  • @Joel75 said:
    I'm having an issue exporting from Garageband into Auria Pro and am hoping someone could help. @richardyot, it sounds like this is something you may be familiar with. I have a 16 measure Drummer pattern that I'd like to get into AP to run through my newly acquired MicroWarmer. I select the song in the GB song list, export to AP with 44.1, 16 bit, AIFF selected (highest quality). AP opens automatically, but when I go to import the file, it's in the import list as 0 seconds long, 32 bit. I tried exporting from GB into Audioshare, then into AP, and have the exact same issue. My workaround was to export into Twisted Wave, then do Audiocopy/Audiopaste into AP (although now I am thinking I probably could have used Audioshare for that...). Is there some trick I'm missing to export from Garageband into Auria Pro without having to involve another app to use Audiocopy? I suspect the transformation from a 16 bit file into a 32 bit file is to blame. Thanks in advance for any help!

    I export from GB to Audioshare, convert to WAV in Audioshare and then Audio Copy into Auria. I don't think Auria likes the AIFF format that GB exports.

  • Awesome, @richardyot, thanks for that. I wasn't aware that Audioshare could convert to WAV. I'll have to play around with that. Thanks again.

    (By the way, a couple of the MicroWarmer presets really made a straight up rock beat from "Kyle" really come to life. Sounds great!)

  • Worked perfectly. I'd used the normalize function in Audioshare but never noticed the "convert" function right underneath it. Love being able to beef up the (what I consider to be) quite good sounds in GB.
    @richardyot, this was just a 1 track "song". If I wanted to export individual tracks from a multitrack song, would I just solo the track I wanted exported and then "export song" like usual? Or is there another way I should be doing that?

  • @Joel75 said:
    Worked perfectly. I'd used the normalize function in Audioshare but never noticed the "convert" function right underneath it. Love being able to beef up the (what I consider to be) quite good sounds in GB.
    @richardyot, this was just a 1 track "song". If I wanted to export individual tracks from a multitrack song, would I just solo the track I wanted exported and then "export song" like usual? Or is there another way I should be doing that?

    Yes, unfortunately you do have to solo each track you want to export, bit of a drag, but hey Apple.

  • The lack of time signatures In garageband really makes it not an option for me .Although i think its
    Really nice and inspiring app.
    Its really ignorant to give only 4/8 and 6/8 options. Music is sepposed to be free and magical thing. In some areas of the world its easier for peope to keep a beat of 7/8 , 9/8

  • @richardyot said:

    @boone51 said:
    So many replies to this thread by people likely smarter than me, and I'll confess to not reading them all. But I'd just say the ability to use it as an input. The
    Imitation is even more amplified by the fact that I *can actually get music out of it, but it's a windows style feature that requires you to export it clip by clip. It's "stupid". It's downright stubborn. And pointless. What gets me really deleting the app the quickest is when I realize that on top of that, it's intentional. If it were an app by any other developer you'd laugh at it and mock it for being so stupid. The app is wonderful. The restrictions imposed arbitrarily on it make it the most well thought out and designed labor of love for the developers that amounts to a slap in the face to their users.

    Well of course if it was any other developer, you could request and they would likely listen. WML, Steinberg, even Korg would likely listen to user requests. But, this is Apple....

    Apple listens. You just have to speak up. I have had a number of email correspondences with them regarding Final Cut Pro X. They have made major improvements based on user feedback. Give it a try.

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/garageband.html

  • I could really use a Mute clips feature

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