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New Virsyn app: BandShift

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  • I just picked it up - gotta keep my VirSyn collection going, y'know? Like back in the day when I used to collect Iron Man comics ... don't want to miss an issue. That's how I discovered Marvel's most colorful forgotten sidekick, the Jack of Hearts :sunglasses:

    I'll see if I can carve some time to actually play with it, run it through a few paces, and post back here in the next week. Still have two apps I'm behind on beta-testing, real life struggles, etc.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    @Jocphone @MonzoPro what we do know of course is that all apps do not suit everyone's tastes but that doesn't necessarily make them bad apps. Having spent some time to master BandShift I now appreciate (and enjoy) what it adds to my audio tool set. I think this is one of those apps that appears to do very little but once you get to know it then it is capable of so much - sound mangling, frequency isolating, detuning to name a few. I think someone else mentioned it hooks up really well with MIDI LFOs and that is true when you control the XY pads with MIDI learn. For me - awesome :)

    Agree completely Trueyorky. The graphic equalizer is great and hugely useful, the pitch effect is difficult to do anything musical with (for me) and I found the switching between each view with no indication of the channels in other tabs made it all feel like flail your arms around and see what it sounds like. Fun for a while but the things I did achieve I didn't think worth the outlay (again, for me). Overall it is a quality app but I felt the UI needed a rethink. Also, I could never get the media player to work in standalone.

    Think I'll stay on the fence a bit longer. Need to see/hear more examples before I fall off.

    I don't regret buying it (because once you start down that path.....:)), but I think the fence is probably a sensible place to be, at least for you, presuming you have one or two other things currently deserving of your attention...

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    @Jocphone @MonzoPro what we do know of course is that all apps do not suit everyone's tastes but that doesn't necessarily make them bad apps. Having spent some time to master BandShift I now appreciate (and enjoy) what it adds to my audio tool set. I think this is one of those apps that appears to do very little but once you get to know it then it is capable of so much - sound mangling, frequency isolating, detuning to name a few. I think someone else mentioned it hooks up really well with MIDI LFOs and that is true when you control the XY pads with MIDI learn. For me - awesome :)

    Agree completely Trueyorky. The graphic equalizer is great and hugely useful, the pitch effect is difficult to do anything musical with (for me) and I found the switching between each view with no indication of the channels in other tabs made it all feel like flail your arms around and see what it sounds like. Fun for a while but the things I did achieve I didn't think worth the outlay (again, for me). Overall it is a quality app but I felt the UI needed a rethink. Also, I could never get the media player to work in standalone.

    Think I'll stay on the fence a bit longer. Need to see/hear more examples before I fall off.

    I don't regret buying it (because once you start down that path.....:)), but I think the fence is probably a sensible place to be, at least for you, presuming you have one or two other things currently deserving of your attention...

    I don't have a great deal of time for music making at the moment, and the time I do have I'd like to spend with a Gadget/Blocs/ReSlice/KRFT combo, and do something a bit more structured/melodic for a change. This would tip me back into the deep, dark hole of soundscape madness that I've occupied for a year or so. An attractive prospect, but I think the fence is a better option for now with this app. Shame, as I am a bit of a completist, but I fear this could be another Voxsyn.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    @Jocphone @MonzoPro what we do know of course is that all apps do not suit everyone's tastes but that doesn't necessarily make them bad apps. Having spent some time to master BandShift I now appreciate (and enjoy) what it adds to my audio tool set. I think this is one of those apps that appears to do very little but once you get to know it then it is capable of so much - sound mangling, frequency isolating, detuning to name a few. I think someone else mentioned it hooks up really well with MIDI LFOs and that is true when you control the XY pads with MIDI learn. For me - awesome :)

    Agree completely Trueyorky. The graphic equalizer is great and hugely useful, the pitch effect is difficult to do anything musical with (for me) and I found the switching between each view with no indication of the channels in other tabs made it all feel like flail your arms around and see what it sounds like. Fun for a while but the things I did achieve I didn't think worth the outlay (again, for me). Overall it is a quality app but I felt the UI needed a rethink. Also, I could never get the media player to work in standalone.

    Think I'll stay on the fence a bit longer. Need to see/hear more examples before I fall off.

    I don't regret buying it (because once you start down that path.....:)), but I think the fence is probably a sensible place to be, at least for you, presuming you have one or two other things currently deserving of your attention...

    I don't have a great deal of time for music making at the moment, and the time I do have I'd like to spend with a Gadget/Blocs/ReSlice/KRFT combo, and do something a bit more structured/melodic for a change. This would tip me back into the deep, dark hole of soundscape madness that I've occupied for a year or so. An attractive prospect, but I think the fence is a better option for now with this app. Shame, as I am a bit of a completist, but I fear this could be another Voxsyn.

    Hey, it's not going anywhere....

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    @Jocphone @MonzoPro what we do know of course is that all apps do not suit everyone's tastes but that doesn't necessarily make them bad apps. Having spent some time to master BandShift I now appreciate (and enjoy) what it adds to my audio tool set. I think this is one of those apps that appears to do very little but once you get to know it then it is capable of so much - sound mangling, frequency isolating, detuning to name a few. I think someone else mentioned it hooks up really well with MIDI LFOs and that is true when you control the XY pads with MIDI learn. For me - awesome :)

    Agree completely Trueyorky. The graphic equalizer is great and hugely useful, the pitch effect is difficult to do anything musical with (for me) and I found the switching between each view with no indication of the channels in other tabs made it all feel like flail your arms around and see what it sounds like. Fun for a while but the things I did achieve I didn't think worth the outlay (again, for me). Overall it is a quality app but I felt the UI needed a rethink. Also, I could never get the media player to work in standalone.

    Think I'll stay on the fence a bit longer. Need to see/hear more examples before I fall off.

    I don't regret buying it (because once you start down that path.....:)), but I think the fence is probably a sensible place to be, at least for you, presuming you have one or two other things currently deserving of your attention...

    I don't have a great deal of time for music making at the moment, and the time I do have I'd like to spend with a Gadget/Blocs/ReSlice/KRFT combo, and do something a bit more structured/melodic for a change. This would tip me back into the deep, dark hole of soundscape madness that I've occupied for a year or so. An attractive prospect, but I think the fence is a better option for now with this app. Shame, as I am a bit of a completist, but I fear this could be another Voxsyn.

    Hey, it's not going anywhere....

    Up in price...

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    @Jocphone @MonzoPro what we do know of course is that all apps do not suit everyone's tastes but that doesn't necessarily make them bad apps. Having spent some time to master BandShift I now appreciate (and enjoy) what it adds to my audio tool set. I think this is one of those apps that appears to do very little but once you get to know it then it is capable of so much - sound mangling, frequency isolating, detuning to name a few. I think someone else mentioned it hooks up really well with MIDI LFOs and that is true when you control the XY pads with MIDI learn. For me - awesome :)

    Agree completely Trueyorky. The graphic equalizer is great and hugely useful, the pitch effect is difficult to do anything musical with (for me) and I found the switching between each view with no indication of the channels in other tabs made it all feel like flail your arms around and see what it sounds like. Fun for a while but the things I did achieve I didn't think worth the outlay (again, for me). Overall it is a quality app but I felt the UI needed a rethink. Also, I could never get the media player to work in standalone.

    Think I'll stay on the fence a bit longer. Need to see/hear more examples before I fall off.

    I don't regret buying it (because once you start down that path.....:)), but I think the fence is probably a sensible place to be, at least for you, presuming you have one or two other things currently deserving of your attention...

    I don't have a great deal of time for music making at the moment, and the time I do have I'd like to spend with a Gadget/Blocs/ReSlice/KRFT combo, and do something a bit more structured/melodic for a change. This would tip me back into the deep, dark hole of soundscape madness that I've occupied for a year or so. An attractive prospect, but I think the fence is a better option for now with this app. Shame, as I am a bit of a completist, but I fear this could be another Voxsyn.

    +1 have to mostly agree with this assessment on this one. I've almost bought it 3 or 4 times already. Then, I go add all of the other apps that can manipulate on the fly to an AUM channel, try them each one-by-one... then watch the demo video again, and am left with "No, I don't think I need this."

  • @skiphunt said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    @Jocphone @MonzoPro what we do know of course is that all apps do not suit everyone's tastes but that doesn't necessarily make them bad apps. Having spent some time to master BandShift I now appreciate (and enjoy) what it adds to my audio tool set. I think this is one of those apps that appears to do very little but once you get to know it then it is capable of so much - sound mangling, frequency isolating, detuning to name a few. I think someone else mentioned it hooks up really well with MIDI LFOs and that is true when you control the XY pads with MIDI learn. For me - awesome :)

    Agree completely Trueyorky. The graphic equalizer is great and hugely useful, the pitch effect is difficult to do anything musical with (for me) and I found the switching between each view with no indication of the channels in other tabs made it all feel like flail your arms around and see what it sounds like. Fun for a while but the things I did achieve I didn't think worth the outlay (again, for me). Overall it is a quality app but I felt the UI needed a rethink. Also, I could never get the media player to work in standalone.

    Think I'll stay on the fence a bit longer. Need to see/hear more examples before I fall off.

    I don't regret buying it (because once you start down that path.....:)), but I think the fence is probably a sensible place to be, at least for you, presuming you have one or two other things currently deserving of your attention...

    I don't have a great deal of time for music making at the moment, and the time I do have I'd like to spend with a Gadget/Blocs/ReSlice/KRFT combo, and do something a bit more structured/melodic for a change. This would tip me back into the deep, dark hole of soundscape madness that I've occupied for a year or so. An attractive prospect, but I think the fence is a better option for now with this app. Shame, as I am a bit of a completist, but I fear this could be another Voxsyn.

    +1 have to mostly agree with this assessment on this one. I've almost bought it 3 or 4 times already. Then, I go add all of the other apps that can manipulate on the fly to an AUM channel, try them each one-by-one... then watch the demo video again, and am left with "No, I don't think I need this."

    Should say that I see an update which says: AUv3 automation for main parameter (plus some bug fixes). Don't know exactly what this means and can't look now because as I am in urgent need to a sandwich at Patika, but might be worth a look at later....

  • edited March 2017

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    @Jocphone @MonzoPro what we do know of course is that all apps do not suit everyone's tastes but that doesn't necessarily make them bad apps. Having spent some time to master BandShift I now appreciate (and enjoy) what it adds to my audio tool set. I think this is one of those apps that appears to do very little but once you get to know it then it is capable of so much - sound mangling, frequency isolating, detuning to name a few. I think someone else mentioned it hooks up really well with MIDI LFOs and that is true when you control the XY pads with MIDI learn. For me - awesome :)

    Agree completely Trueyorky. The graphic equalizer is great and hugely useful, the pitch effect is difficult to do anything musical with (for me) and I found the switching between each view with no indication of the channels in other tabs made it all feel like flail your arms around and see what it sounds like. Fun for a while but the things I did achieve I didn't think worth the outlay (again, for me). Overall it is a quality app but I felt the UI needed a rethink. Also, I could never get the media player to work in standalone.

    Think I'll stay on the fence a bit longer. Need to see/hear more examples before I fall off.

    I don't regret buying it (because once you start down that path.....:)), but I think the fence is probably a sensible place to be, at least for you, presuming you have one or two other things currently deserving of your attention...

    I don't have a great deal of time for music making at the moment, and the time I do have I'd like to spend with a Gadget/Blocs/ReSlice/KRFT combo, and do something a bit more structured/melodic for a change. This would tip me back into the deep, dark hole of soundscape madness that I've occupied for a year or so. An attractive prospect, but I think the fence is a better option for now with this app. Shame, as I am a bit of a completist, but I fear this could be another Voxsyn.

    +1 have to mostly agree with this assessment on this one. I've almost bought it 3 or 4 times already. Then, I go add all of the other apps that can manipulate on the fly to an AUM channel, try them each one-by-one... then watch the demo video again, and am left with "No, I don't think I need this."

    Should say that I see an update which says: AUv3 automation for main parameter (plus some bug fixes). Don't know exactly what this means and can't look now because as I am in urgent need to a sandwich at Patika, but might be worth a look at later....

    Hmmm... where do you see that update? That might be enough to push me off the fence.

    EDIT: just saw that in the app description for today's update. Anxious to read if anyone's tried this yet. :)

  • oh that's good news if AU automation is in.
    I'm on the fence too, I'd know I'd like it but it's a bit of a luxury. :)

  • @Carnbot said:
    oh that's good news if AU automation is in.
    I'm on the fence too, I'd know I'd like it but it's a bit of a luxury. :)

    Didn't expect it to work in AP, but not certain how it will elsewhere. Not self-evident for the stupid. Await Samaritan strollers out here in the North Forty.

  • There are people who cannot resist the desire to get into a cage with wild beasts and be mangled. (Henry Miller)

  • The AU automation of parameters via MIDI works well. This is the sort of app I enjoy for sound manipulation as it's both straight forward and flexible. You basically have frequency bands and you can shift the pitch of any of these bands to your liking as well as filter them, some modulation options and XY pads for the parameters. You can create both subtle and extreme transformations of your input source with the app.

    Not all AU hosts support MIDI control of AU parameters; however, AUM does.

  • @InfoCheck thanks for pointing me in the right direction...

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    @InfoCheck thanks for pointing me in the right direction...

    Let me know if you'd like more detailed instructions for using BandShift in AUM using MIDI sources.

  • Bought this. I like it. I've got it warping SwarPlug in AUM with Oscilab sending automation midi cc to control xy of each pad. Kinda cool. Keeping it. :)

  • @skiphunt said:
    Bought this. I like it. I've got it warping SwarPlug in AUM with Oscilab sending automation midi cc to control xy of each pad. Kinda cool. Keeping it. :)

    Cool, glad I didn't put everyone off with my own nonchalance. Any chance you could knock something interesting out on soundcloud for @MonzoPro ? I feel bad about sending him back on the fence.

  • Fell off the fence and bought it the moment they mentioned au parameter automation.
    thanks so much @VirSyn can we please get automation for audioeffx now ? pretty
    please with a cherry on top ?

  • @Jocphone said:

    @skiphunt said:
    Bought this. I like it. I've got it warping SwarPlug in AUM with Oscilab sending automation midi cc to control xy of each pad. Kinda cool. Keeping it. :)

    Cool, glad I didn't put everyone off with my own nonchalance. Any chance you could knock something interesting out on soundcloud for @MonzoPro ? I feel bad about sending him back on the fence.

    Yes please. I was on the fence anyway. If this was a few quid I'd buy it for a punt, but at 8 quid I need some persuasion my hard earned pennies aren't going to be spent on something I don't use.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @skiphunt said:
    Bought this. I like it. I've got it warping SwarPlug in AUM with Oscilab sending automation midi cc to control xy of each pad. Kinda cool. Keeping it. :)

    Cool, glad I didn't put everyone off with my own nonchalance. Any chance you could knock something interesting out on soundcloud for @MonzoPro ? I feel bad about sending him back on the fence.

    Yes please. I was on the fence anyway. If this was a few quid I'd buy it for a punt, but at 8 quid I need some persuasion my hard earned pennies aren't going to be spent on something I don't use.

    I have some good news for you. It's only 7 quid! :smiley:

  • @Jocphone said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @skiphunt said:
    Bought this. I like it. I've got it warping SwarPlug in AUM with Oscilab sending automation midi cc to control xy of each pad. Kinda cool. Keeping it. :)

    Cool, glad I didn't put everyone off with my own nonchalance. Any chance you could knock something interesting out on soundcloud for @MonzoPro ? I feel bad about sending him back on the fence.

    Yes please. I was on the fence anyway. If this was a few quid I'd buy it for a punt, but at 8 quid I need some persuasion my hard earned pennies aren't going to be spent on something I don't use.

    I have some good news for you. It's only 7 quid! :smiley:

    Oh yeah, getting my 7 and 8 quids mixed up. Still more than my 5 pound punt limit though :)

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @skiphunt said:
    Bought this. I like it. I've got it warping SwarPlug in AUM with Oscilab sending automation midi cc to control xy of each pad. Kinda cool. Keeping it. :)

    Cool, glad I didn't put everyone off with my own nonchalance. Any chance you could knock something interesting out on soundcloud for @MonzoPro ? I feel bad about sending him back on the fence.

    Yes please. I was on the fence anyway. If this was a few quid I'd buy it for a punt, but at 8 quid I need some persuasion my hard earned pennies aren't going to be spent on something I don't use.

    I have some good news for you. It's only 7 quid! :smiley:

    Oh yeah, getting my 7 and 8 quids mixed up. Still more than my 5 pound punt limit though :)

    We could have a whip round, should be ready by 29th March 2019, subject to our partners agreeing to our terms etc.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @skiphunt said:
    Bought this. I like it. I've got it warping SwarPlug in AUM with Oscilab sending automation midi cc to control xy of each pad. Kinda cool. Keeping it. :)

    Cool, glad I didn't put everyone off with my own nonchalance. Any chance you could knock something interesting out on soundcloud for @MonzoPro ? I feel bad about sending him back on the fence.

    Yes please. I was on the fence anyway. If this was a few quid I'd buy it for a punt, but at 8 quid I need some persuasion my hard earned pennies aren't going to be spent on something I don't use.

    I have some good news for you. It's only 7 quid! :smiley:

    Oh yeah, getting my 7 and 8 quids mixed up. Still more than my 5 pound punt limit though :)

    We could have a whip round, should be ready by 29th March 2019, subject to our partners agreeing to our terms etc.

    Dig deep, the exchange rate will be so low by then I'll need to sell a kidney to keep me in reverbs.

  • I'm having mixed feelings about this one now. I like that I can shape the sound somewhat. And it's cool to send midi cc from an app like Oscilab to it, in order to get automated weirdness. But it's kind of more erratic than I'd hoped. I'm messing with various sources, It's easier to isolate a frequency than with my current EQs. I'm just not completely sold on this at the moment.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @skiphunt said:
    Bought this. I like it. I've got it warping SwarPlug in AUM with Oscilab sending automation midi cc to control xy of each pad. Kinda cool. Keeping it. :)

    Cool, glad I didn't put everyone off with my own nonchalance. Any chance you could knock something interesting out on soundcloud for @MonzoPro ? I feel bad about sending him back on the fence.

    Yes please. I was on the fence anyway. If this was a few quid I'd buy it for a punt, but at 8 quid I need some persuasion my hard earned pennies aren't going to be spent on something I don't use.

    I have some good news for you. It's only 7 quid! :smiley:

    Oh yeah, getting my 7 and 8 quids mixed up. Still more than my 5 pound punt limit though :)

    These measurements of value are all relative but I did think it expensive for iOS for the limited use I would find for it and could probably get close with something knocked up in the 'Vox.

  • @Jocphone said:

    These measurements of value are all relative but I did think it expensive for iOS for the limited use I would find for it and could probably get close with something knocked up in the 'Vox.

    Yeah I agree, for a few quid (like in the old days before the prices doubled) I'd fill my basket with bits and pieces like this, regardless of how much I'd end up using them. Sacrosanct to say but iOSLand is getting pricey, and I have to keep an eye on my spendage these days.

    @skiphunt said:
    I'm having mixed feelings about this one now. I like that I can shape the sound somewhat. And it's cool to send midi cc from an app like Oscilab to it, in order to get automated weirdness. But it's kind of more erratic than I'd hoped. I'm messing with various sources, It's easier to isolate a frequency than with my current EQs. I'm just not completely sold on this at the moment.

    Seems to be getting quite a muted response from most. I think this would have been better as an addition to their multi-fx app which I don't have, and would have taken the plunge had it been included.

  • I'll probably grab this in a sale at some point. Have to save my money for more important things (like AB3)...

  • One week in with BandShift and absolutely loving it here.

    If you wanna do selective frequency shifting this app will keep you smiling.

  • edited March 2017

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I'm having mixed feelings about this one now. I like that I can shape the sound somewhat. And it's cool to send midi cc from an app like Oscilab to it, in order to get automated weirdness. But it's kind of more erratic than I'd hoped. I'm messing with various sources, It's easier to isolate a frequency than with my current EQs. I'm just not completely sold on this at the moment.

    Seems to be getting quite a muted response from most. I think this would have been better as an addition to their multi-fx app which I don't have, and would have taken the plunge had it been included.

    It's a decent app, and could certainly be useful in some situations for sure. It's just after playing with it for 2-3hrs in total, with different kinds of audio files, I was just left with the impression that I personally wouldn't likely use it much.

    If $7 is chump change, and you have loads of storage for every app you might use every now and then, it's likely worth having in the toolbox. Or, if you just like collecting a bunch of sound apps for the love of collecting sound apps, etc. it's a good one for the collection.

    However, $7 for me is just barely at the price-point that I'd like to know it was going to be in somewhat regular rotation. This one wouldn't for me. I'm trying to keep my purchases down to what I know I'll use often and/or get a lot of joy from using. BandShift wasn't a good fit for me. Your mileage may vary.

  • edited March 2017

    @Proppa facepalm? Good that we have so many choices for each of our needs and desires isn't it? What floats your aural boat, may sink mine... and visa-versa. I was just giving feedback to @MonzoPro regarding my personal point of view with this app, since we tend to have somewhat similar sonic interests and use/value assessment. If you're getting your jollies from BandShift, then more power to you.

    I will say this... I requested a refund on BandShift. If for some reason Apple denies that request and I'm stuck with it, I won't be all that broken up about it. :)

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