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  • Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

  • @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes! Loopy does. ThumbJam I think

  • @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

  • This one is thumbjam

  • edited March 2017

    @ecamburn said:
    Yes

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    I still can't get over how good the sync is recording eight Patterning tracks at once into Cubasis on an Air1, jumping through drum kits on the fly. So good!

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

  • Please!!!!! Money waiting as IAP!!!!
    Extra super trucker style coffee too!!!! :) <3

    @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

  • @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

    That would be brilliant. With some apps (e.g. Fugue, Oscilab) you can mix MIDI controlled apps, and a single instance of the built in sounds via AUM, but it'd be amazing to have multiple internal audio channels plus any MIDI apps being controlled in separate AUM channels. Not sure without checking, Patterning possibly does this...

  • @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

    Have you considered a separate app as a MIDI controller (TC-11/TC-Data style)? That way you could pack in more features relevant to each (more editing controls for the synth version for example), keeping the UI uncluttered and allowing separate development and income for the new app.

  • edited March 2017

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Please!!!!! Money waiting as IAP!!!!
    Extra super trucker style coffee too!!!! :) <3

    @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

    Yes, I will pay for multi-out/expor... Really will like to get the stems into my Sonar DAW...
    All that good Melodyne and other tools are just waiting to sculp..
    Will also pay for 'packs' .. I was looking at iMaschine content yesterday and wondered why can't we have a healthy IAP pack offering also...

  • edited March 2017

    As for GUI movement recording, think iKaossilator but with your loops and morphs rather than notes. So you record a performance, and it's played back to you on the surface, everything lighting up according to the way you played. You can then alter said performance live as it plays back by pressing different loops, etc. and of course you can just keep doing this until it's just perfect. This, opposed to doing multiple takes of the whole thing all the way through (although that would still be an option)

  • Saw this one on YouTube..

  • @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

    This is what I tried to suggest earlier but evidently failed. I'd much rather see multi-out than stem export. That makes live mixing and realtime FX processing easier in something like AUM, Cubasis, or Auria. Capturing the Stems can easily be done there provided you provide at Audiobus / IAA transport controls.

  • @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

    In that case people could also choose Cubasis, which may be more flexible for them if they are more into overdubs/multitracking. But yes, multi channel IAA with sync could work well. One thing to consider in that case would be the transport bar that IAA apps aquire when they are hosted in another app.

    I think one of the best models of an app to check out for supporting LINK, IAA (with sync) and AB is certainly Patterning. I imagine it was a LOT of work getting the whole range of options in one app.

  • @AudioGus said:

    @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

    In that case people could also choose Cubasis, which may be more flexible for them if they are more into overdubs/multitracking. But yes, multi channel IAA with sync could work well. One thing to consider in that case would be the transport bar that IAA apps aquire when they are hosted in another app.

    I think one of the best models of an app to check out for supporting LINK, IAA (with sync) and AB is certainly Patterning. I imagine it was a LOT of work getting the whole range of options in one app.

    Looks like I'm gonna have to invest in these apps to see how they work and get a feel for the work flow!

  • @Alex fox you'll have fun with Patterning. :)

  • My friend said Patterning looked it was designed by interplanetary aliens! :D :# :)

  • @MusicMan4Christ said:
    My friend said Patterning looked it was designed by interplanetary aliens! :D :# :)

    As opposed to all the local ones we've got here in South Austin I'd imagine....

  • Yes please look at how patterning seems to have all bases covered and runs like a dream.
    And with ableton export, my number 1 app. ( drum )
    But krft is kicking a#$s, so keep it coming
    Happy to pay for iaps also , as your time equals my money !!

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

    Have you considered a separate app as a MIDI controller (TC-11/TC-Data style)? That way you could pack in more features relevant to each (more editing controls for the synth version for example), keeping the UI uncluttered and allowing separate development and income for the new app.

    Yes it's something we've thought about. I don't think midi out will add much in terms of UI and we'd rather keep everything in one app really. For example you might want to use a combination of sounds from KRFT as well as from external synths. Also we're planning to add sharing Surfaces in 1.4 so it would be a shame to segregate users and their creations!

  • @Alex fox said:

    Yes Multi IAA outs would be great for KRFT so then you wouldn't necessarily have to mix the audio levels in KRFT and could use AUM and record all the stems (or output them to a DAW like Ableton Live)

  • edited March 2017

    well - it took me almost 20 times to record a performance from KRFT I was mostly happy with - I'd often get about 60-80% through recording and miss a cue or flub a part (this is not a knock on KRFT at all, just my slow brain function) ...

    I also found KRFT's output very hot. I ran it thru AUM - and it was peaking out ... ended up having to turn down every instruments/drums to about 10-15 (out of 100). In AUM I added a little Peak Limiter and Saturation insert fx.

    here's the track if anybody wants to listen - it turned out pretty well i think (spacey electronica - 98bpm)

  • @wim said:

    @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

    This is what I tried to suggest earlier but evidently failed. I'd much rather see multi-out than stem export. That makes live mixing and realtime FX processing easier in something like AUM, Cubasis, or Auria. Capturing the Stems can easily be done there provided you provide at Audiobus / IAA transport controls.

    As a realtime noodler (mostly) I'd second this strongly. Having multi outs and seperate processing is what makes producing music on a single device so much fun. Better for staying in the flow.

  • Really nice liked it a lot!!

    @Halftone said:
    well - it took me almost 20 times to record a performance from KRFT I was mostly happy with - I'd often get about 60-80% through recording and miss a cue or flub a part (this is not a knock on KRFT at all, just my slow brain function) ...

    I also found KRFT's output very hot. I ran it thru AUM - and it was peaking out ... ended up having to turn down every instruments/drums to about 10-15 (out of 100). In AUM I added a little Peak Limiter and Saturation insert fx.

    here's the track if anybody wants to listen - it turned out pretty well i think (spacey electronica - 98bpm)

  • @Halftone said:
    well - it took me almost 20 times to record a performance from KRFT I was mostly happy with - I'd often get about 60-80% through recording and miss a cue or flub a part (this is not a knock on KRFT at all, just my slow brain function) ...

    I also found KRFT's output very hot. I ran it thru AUM - and it was peaking out ... ended up having to turn down every instruments/drums to about 10-15 (out of 100). In AUM I added a little Peak Limiter and Saturation insert fx.

    here's the track if anybody wants to listen - it turned out pretty well i think (spacey electronica - 98bpm)

    Nice. Some sweet sounds in there, again (banging the same drum) would like to be able to save our patches....I liked all of this, but especially the second third and on. Very much an updated soundtrack for a Warriors remake :)

  • Yes among others things like sending to fx. IAA multi-outs and audiobus support would certainly benefit KRFT.

    @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Alex fox said:
    Does anyone know if an app can have multi channel output via audio bus or IAA?

    Yes it can, for example idensity outputs on separate channels as an AUM IAA instrument.

    Interesting. This might be the best way for us to do multi stem recording. If for example you had some audio generated in KRFT and some through other apps controlled by midi from KRFT, you could record all the channels in AUM.

  • @Halftone said:
    well - it took me almost 20 times to record a performance from KRFT I was mostly happy with - I'd often get about 60-80% through recording and miss a cue or flub a part (this is not a knock on KRFT at all, just my slow brain function) ...

    I also found KRFT's output very hot. I ran it thru AUM - and it was peaking out ... ended up having to turn down every instruments/drums to about 10-15 (out of 100). In AUM I added a little Peak Limiter and Saturation insert fx.

    here's the track if anybody wants to listen - it turned out pretty well i think (spacey electronica - 98bpm)

    Nice tune! It can be hard to get a solid performance for sure. Hopefully we can fix this with recorder cells and some sort of multi out. There is something interesting about having to perform it all live though, a few little mistakes can give it a more urgent feel, like a real band.

    It's odd that it was so loud. The output when listening with headphones doesn't seem to peak. In this case a master KRFT gain would certainly be useful!

  • @Carnbot said:

    @Alex fox said:

    Yes Multi IAA outs would be great for KRFT so then you wouldn't necessarily have to mix the audio levels in KRFT and could use AUM and record all the stems (or output them to a DAW like Ableton Live)

    Can you record out into Ableton using IAA??

  • @Alex fox said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @Alex fox said:

    Yes Multi IAA outs would be great for KRFT so then you wouldn't necessarily have to mix the audio levels in KRFT and could use AUM and record all the stems (or output them to a DAW like Ableton Live)

    Can you record out into Ableton using IAA??

    If you just want to record the main stereo mix into Live you could do that without any other apps with an audio interface. But if KRFT had multiple IAA ports you could use AUM or other hosts to output each stem into Ableton Live. I use an iconnectaudio4 and do this kind of thing a lot.

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