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I feel fortunate to be in a position to say what others see as shortcomings I don't see as issues at all. The only issue I do have is that I won't be able to get one until September.
First World problems, and all that.
Love how different this video is from the Sonic State video. So great that Cuckoo took the time to add the text overlays to have a sense of what he's hitting. At ~12:10, apply quantize strength afterward for the win. Not just quantize but the amount. Amen. I think Auria Pro is currently the only app on iOS that supports this incredibly humane (and human) feature.
No tempo or transient aware sample editing. Even with resampling, I didn't see anything that would capture N bars at the current BPM. I know it's not really meant for loops but it seems a miss. Would be aces to be able to bring your of your other stuff into the inputs as a mix and do fixed length capture based on the BPM. The OLED and the zoom window are great but tab-to-transient is plain handy.
21:40 shows no full undo.
4 outputs, one of which could be a TRG out and I'd do my first ever pre-order. Still, pretty much sold. Anyone want to buy a TR-707 with memory cartridge?
Would like the Tweaky/Seekbeats dev to know that Elektron used TweakyBeat in this video (and suggested people check it out) but don't know his user name here. Anyone know? I know I'd be chuffed.
@syrupcore the full undo is confirmed as coming for all-edit mode, so when you do a big track tweak on all tracks hitting undo will revert the pattern.
OS isn't complete yet
yeah but it's as small as a dr-5 almost , who wouldn't want to take this thing everywhere
tweaky beats dev's name is Rodrigo
@syrupcore, if they'd allowed stereo sampling they probably would have put in better sample editing.... they're trying to entice people in that direction anyway I don't know why they just didn't go on and do it unless they want it to be something that comes out in a better version late.... This one is really cringe worthy cause if it ran on batteries and was velocity sensitive I probably wouldn't be able to resist, that or if it was under $400 cause the current price is damn expensive for 64mb and no vel, and still I'm thinking about it haha
just goes to show just how much bang for the buck the mpc live really is
One thing about this is it does sound damn nice. There's a video with one of the elektron developers where he gives a bit of info about the fx (the filter has slight eq bumps and the overdrive has eq'd compression at certain freq as you turn it up)
Really on the fence between this and the mpc.. I want both but which to get first as it will be at least months before I can afford both
One thing is I've been burned by Akai so many times that I don't really trust them to release a stable working unit, I really hope it is good though
Hopefully random slice mode via transient detection is possible thru future OS update.
one thing i like is that you can change the start point with p-lock and then set a probability of triggering.. pretty cool feature
Yeah, I wish the Octatrack had the probability stuff, that would be amazing.
trying not to get my hopes up too much as elektron are like teenage engineering sometimes when it comes to stuff like the sample editing, actually everyone is kind of weird about sample slicing, talking to t.e. about sample slicing was like talking to people about pulling teeth. Allot of people feel like it will break their artistic vision if sample slicing is available which is just crazy imo cause if anybody doesn't want to slice a sample it's not like they have to. the sample slicing features are not like a physical mod wheel that you don't want to stick out, they're just commands that one can choose or not choose to use bah humbug...
elektron know damn well that a ton of people would love to use some better slicing features in that beatmachine, it's not like it's a hybrid or a drum synth ffs it's a drumsampler and for the last 20 years the most important thing for drum samplers has been sample slicing.
boo
they go and give us the closest thing to patterning in a lil box and tether it to a wall
I took it to mean that you can't undo a loading a sample. Which sorta makes sense.
I gotta agree with @kobamoto. Slicing or at least transient detection is feeling more and more like a big omission considering the aim of this machine.
Hmm but the fact you can set sample start per step is like live slicing on the fly. I can see why they didn't add traditional slice mode
Oh man, eight seperate outputs over usb.... sigh...
No doubt, an amazing feature. Maybe my favorite of Nanostudio. Still wish NS had a slice to pads feature though! Obviously not "needed", per se, but it's an awfully nice-to-have feature. And considering all of the attention they've obviously paid toward super fast work flow, it seems missing.
I don't think that's gonna stop me from buying it.
what's the correlation between the two, only thing I can see in not implementing slicing is barring allot of people who'd like to slice up samples in that fashion. Is there something they are accomplishing with this omission otherwise?
I know, but it's a very nice addition if you turn your glass upside down.
Anyone know if they have any plans to get overbridge (or just the separate audio tracks part) working on iOS? Or maybe iOS already works?
no correlation, just that it's not a sampler per se, its definitely being aimed as more of a drum sampler designed for individual hits. They added the per step sample start as a way to ghetto slice larger samples.
Also because the sample pool can only hold 128 samples at a time (for all 256 patterns!) i guess they figured slices would eat up these slots very quickly too.
You can also slice in the mpc2000 way of selecting a range of a larger sample and extracting that range to a new sample.
I also would have preferred having an autoslice function btw
not defending their decision haha
and you have to pay 79 euros to use that feature!
I mean 'sigh, that is so dreamy'. I wish I had one on the Circuit!
wow 128/256/ 64mb.... clarifies things even more. I'm a drum machine for drum machine's sake fiend so I'm not against it for being just a drum machine but it's the fact that it's so much more than just a drum machine that's got me jumping on and off the fence
was thinking about getting some dread boxes for my circuit but with this out I might have to let cirky go, so hard to stay on the fence until I also think about the fact that they'd be crazy not to come out with a better battery capable option next year
so is the digitakt the only thing elektron puts out with the probability feature, or does the rytm or octa have it also?
there was some talk on one of the superbooth videos that the 128 might be upped to 256, also someone on the elektronaughts forum said the Elektron guys hinted at superbooth that there may be more devices coming and a bigger bro to the digtakt (likely stereo, more RAM/fx). but who knows when or if thats even true.
As of right now though I am thinking that this + the MPC Live would be a pretty amazing standalone workstation.
If the Digitakt can respond to pattern program changes from the MPC Live than that would be a really solid combo.
As far as sampling and sequencing the two compliment eachother so well. Digitakt PLock and awesome step seq.
MPC Live to record those jam session into Audiotracks and then build with sample slicing and poly instruments over the top. Ahhhhghgh
Do I really want to lay down that much dough though haha
not sure on that
I know the Rytm has it, and I believe the Analog 4 has it too.
and... since the midi tracks have the same features as the audio tracks you could use all of that elektron magical goodness on the mpc, turning the mp into patterning