BM3 looking good

AudioGus

@ElGregoLoco said:
Thanks all for your nice answers full of understanding... Best community ever ;-)
This helps a bit waiting for the Graal... Lol

@AudioGus , my man, I confirm that our expectations seem kind of similar... But they are probably even higher on my side as I have no computer to make music (I have only a 15 yo PC to print docs and consult a few websites, and I cannot afford a PC or Mac with audio interface and software licences), so I fully rely on my iPad... I kind of enviously cry when I watch YouTube vids in whish beatmaker sample a vinyl on the computer and start to easily chop and test it in live using a big computer screen, a dedicated soft and a large piano keyboard... I'd love to be able to have a similar (even if probably a bit limited by definition) in BM3 (having some limits due to the ipad hardware size/power is not an issue for me as I come from MPC that I sold for an iPad, on which I can do many new things like using synths, fxs, incentive controllers, ..., Which is wonderful, but still not being able to do what I could do fast and simple in terms of chopping on JJOS, is really frustrating).

Peace.
Grégo.

Even a cheapo PC with a UCA202 and Reaper running free vsts goes a long way!

As for iOS I am quite stoked that BM3 has LINK. I think piping Blocs and/or Egoist in for sampling may be very interesting indeed.

gonekrazy3000

@RajahP said:
BM3's Website: Play live, remix or sketch ideas with a powerful scene mode.
What does 'Scene Mode' do?
What about 'Snapshots' ...? Something like Maschine's 'Lock' ?

Looking deeper at the features.. She is not only pretty but she also have brains..

http://intua.net/bm3_tease/Perform/IMG_0174.PNG

Edit... found this...

Sequencer

You will find the traditional, timeline based sequencer, exactly like BM2 with an improved workflow and set of tools. To extend the creation capabilities, we’ve added a “scene” mode, where you can quickly create, assemble and play with patterns. A scene hosts multiple track patterns that can be triggered at once, using a specified quantization. It is also possible to individually trigger a pattern from outside the currently playing scene.

The combination of both SONG and SCENE mode is pretty powerful and opens up possibilities for live performances and more traditional sequencing.

So basically lives ARRANGEMENT and SESSION mode ? throws money at screen again

kobamoto

++

ExAsperis99

@5pinlink said:

@gonekrazy3000 said:

@RajahP said:
BM3's Website: Play live, remix or sketch ideas with a powerful scene mode.
What does 'Scene Mode' do?
What about 'Snapshots' ...? Something like Maschine's 'Lock' ?

Looking deeper at the features.. She is not only pretty but she also have brains..

http://intua.net/bm3_tease/Perform/IMG_0174.PNG

Edit... found this...

Sequencer

You will find the traditional, timeline based sequencer, exactly like BM2 with an improved workflow and set of tools. To extend the creation capabilities, we’ve added a “scene” mode, where you can quickly create, assemble and play with patterns. A scene hosts multiple track patterns that can be triggered at once, using a specified quantization. It is also possible to individually trigger a pattern from outside the currently playing scene.

The combination of both SONG and SCENE mode is pretty powerful and opens up possibilities for live performances and more traditional sequencing.

So basically lives ARRANGEMENT and SESSION mode ? throws money at screen again

This is why i want to know if the desktop version is being developed at the same time or is coming later, once BM3 hits the desktop, i think we see a hobby project IOS app become a very serious player, it has all the right features to make it a very very impressive v1 desktop software.

Are you unaware that dismissively referring to users of iOS as "hobbyists" is a little tone-deaf? Particularly on the forum for AudioBus, the linchpin app of iOS music-making? And did anyone say BM3 was being ported to desktop? I see no evidence of that, but I may have missed it. Weird.

AudioGus

@ExAsperis99 said:

@5pinlink said:

@gonekrazy3000 said:

@RajahP said:
BM3's Website: Play live, remix or sketch ideas with a powerful scene mode.
What does 'Scene Mode' do?
What about 'Snapshots' ...? Something like Maschine's 'Lock' ?

Looking deeper at the features.. She is not only pretty but she also have brains..

http://intua.net/bm3_tease/Perform/IMG_0174.PNG

Edit... found this...

Sequencer

You will find the traditional, timeline based sequencer, exactly like BM2 with an improved workflow and set of tools. To extend the creation capabilities, we’ve added a “scene” mode, where you can quickly create, assemble and play with patterns. A scene hosts multiple track patterns that can be triggered at once, using a specified quantization. It is also possible to individually trigger a pattern from outside the currently playing scene.

The combination of both SONG and SCENE mode is pretty powerful and opens up possibilities for live performances and more traditional sequencing.

So basically lives ARRANGEMENT and SESSION mode ? throws money at screen again

This is why i want to know if the desktop version is being developed at the same time or is coming later, once BM3 hits the desktop, i think we see a hobby project IOS app become a very serious player, it has all the right features to make it a very very impressive v1 desktop software.

Are you unaware that dismissively referring to users of iOS as "hobbyists" is a little tone-deaf? Particularly on the forum for AudioBus, the linchpin app of iOS music-making? And did anyone say BM3 was being ported to desktop? I see no evidence of that, but I may have missed it. Weird.

(Gets popcorn...)

theconnactic

Well, we on iOS already have "Logic" (Garageband), "ProTools" (Auria Pro) and now a serious candidate for "Live" - BeatMaker 3! Looking forward, this seems to be a game changer.

db909

Beta testers: theres not TOO much stuff in BM3 is there? The screenshots, while pretty, leave me worried about too much stuff on screen at once. Please tell me that it is all very straigtforward once you dive in and in no way interferes with getting into a musical groove.

ExAsperis99

@5pinlink said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@5pinlink said:

@gonekrazy3000 said:

@RajahP said:
BM3's Website: Play live, remix or sketch ideas with a powerful scene mode.
What does 'Scene Mode' do?
What about 'Snapshots' ...? Something like Maschine's 'Lock' ?

Looking deeper at the features.. She is not only pretty but she also have brains..

http://intua.net/bm3_tease/Perform/IMG_0174.PNG

Edit... found this...

Sequencer

You will find the traditional, timeline based sequencer, exactly like BM2 with an improved workflow and set of tools. To extend the creation capabilities, we’ve added a “scene” mode, where you can quickly create, assemble and play with patterns. A scene hosts multiple track patterns that can be triggered at once, using a specified quantization. It is also possible to individually trigger a pattern from outside the currently playing scene.

The combination of both SONG and SCENE mode is pretty powerful and opens up possibilities for live performances and more traditional sequencing.

So basically lives ARRANGEMENT and SESSION mode ? throws money at screen again

This is why i want to know if the desktop version is being developed at the same time or is coming later, once BM3 hits the desktop, i think we see a hobby project IOS app become a very serious player, it has all the right features to make it a very very impressive v1 desktop software.

Are you unaware that dismissively referring to users of iOS as "hobbyists" is a little tone-deaf? Particularly on the forum for AudioBus, the linchpin app of iOS music-making? And did anyone say BM3 was being ported to desktop? I see no evidence of that, but I may have missed it. Weird.

Are you aware that i called BM3 a hobby project and never mentioned IOS users even once, but no problems, think what you like.

And yes the developers mentioned it would be coming on other platforms, but hey, weird indeed.

I saw nothing on the intua website about other platforms. But my search was not exhaustive. And I guess I misread your comment; so the app is the hobby of the developers?

kobamoto

@AudioGus said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@5pinlink said:

@gonekrazy3000 said:

@RajahP said:
BM3's Website: Play live, remix or sketch ideas with a powerful scene mode.
What does 'Scene Mode' do?
What about 'Snapshots' ...? Something like Maschine's 'Lock' ?

Looking deeper at the features.. She is not only pretty but she also have brains..

http://intua.net/bm3_tease/Perform/IMG_0174.PNG

Edit... found this...

Sequencer

You will find the traditional, timeline based sequencer, exactly like BM2 with an improved workflow and set of tools. To extend the creation capabilities, we’ve added a “scene” mode, where you can quickly create, assemble and play with patterns. A scene hosts multiple track patterns that can be triggered at once, using a specified quantization. It is also possible to individually trigger a pattern from outside the currently playing scene.

The combination of both SONG and SCENE mode is pretty powerful and opens up possibilities for live performances and more traditional sequencing.

So basically lives ARRANGEMENT and SESSION mode ? throws money at screen again

This is why i want to know if the desktop version is being developed at the same time or is coming later, once BM3 hits the desktop, i think we see a hobby project IOS app become a very serious player, it has all the right features to make it a very very impressive v1 desktop software.

Are you unaware that dismissively referring to users of iOS as "hobbyists" is a little tone-deaf? Particularly on the forum for AudioBus, the linchpin app of iOS music-making? And did anyone say BM3 was being ported to desktop? I see no evidence of that, but I may have missed it. Weird.

(Gets popcorn...)

(adds butter)

kobamoto

umm, have you guys talking about ableton actually seen/used abletons session view .....

I'm with db909 though, maybe there is an option to only show on the screen the parts you want to use so your brain doesn't fold back on itself while you're coming up with that groove

JohnnyGoodyear

db909

@kobamoto said:
umm, have you guys talking about ableton actually seen/used abletons session view .....

I'm with db909 though, maybe there is an option to only show on the screen the parts you want to use so your brain doesn't fold back on itself while you're coming up with that groove

I mean...that's a legit problem for me. Its why I gravitated towards ios to begin with. If i see an extra knob that I don't know what to do with I feel like I'm not doing all that I can to make the best music. And then I make NO music

Its like the app is mocking me like "you lazy sack of shit, you haven't even used THIS knob or function"

kobamoto

oh wait a minute, are you guys saying that bm3 has warp markers????

kobamoto

@db909 said:

@kobamoto said:
umm, have you guys talking about ableton actually seen/used abletons session view .....

I'm with db909 though, maybe there is an option to only show on the screen the parts you want to use so your brain doesn't fold back on itself while you're coming up with that groove

I mean...that's a legit problem for me. Its why I gravitated towards ios to begin with. If i see an extra knob that I don't know what to do with I feel like I'm not doing all that I can to make the best music. And then I make NO music

Its like the app is mocking me like "you lazy sack of shit, you haven't even used THIS knob or function"

I hear you!, I thought iOS was going to be all about Samplr and Ikaossilator workflows, that the whole point was to make complex and creative stuff easier than what we were dealing with on desktops like look how easy but incredibly creatively complex the playground app is , or the tc-11..... but but somewhere everything changed direction and now it looks like the platform wants to emulate the very thing people used to say they want to get away from and go iOS for in the first place but with a smaller screen.

db909

@kobamoto said:

@db909 said:

@kobamoto said:
umm, have you guys talking about ableton actually seen/used abletons session view .....

I'm with db909 though, maybe there is an option to only show on the screen the parts you want to use so your brain doesn't fold back on itself while you're coming up with that groove

I mean...that's a legit problem for me. Its why I gravitated towards ios to begin with. If i see an extra knob that I don't know what to do with I feel like I'm not doing all that I can to make the best music. And then I make NO music

Its like the app is mocking me like "you lazy sack of shit, you haven't even used THIS knob or function"

I hear you!, I thought iOS was going to be all about Samplr and Ikaossilator workflows, that the whole point was to make complex and creative stuff easier than what we were dealing with on desktops like look how easy but incredibly creatively complex the playground app is , or the tc-11..... but but somewhere everything changed direction and now it looks like the platform wants to emulate the very thing people used to say they want to get away from and go iOS in the first place

WELL SAID. dammit. Cmon devs, turn it back around.

kobamoto

anyway if intua allow us to only view certain stuff on the screen it will go a long way in helping with that

oddSTAR

This is why i want to know if the desktop version is being developed at the same time or is coming later, once BM3 hits the desktop, i think we see a hobby project IOS app become a very serious player, it has all the right features to make it a very very impressive v1 desktop software.

Are you unaware that dismissively referring to users of iOS as "hobbyists" is a little tone-deaf? Particularly on the forum for AudioBus, the linchpin app of iOS music-making? And did anyone say BM3 was being ported to desktop? I see no evidence of that, but I may have missed it. Weird.

Are you aware that i called BM3 a hobby project and never mentioned IOS users even once, but no problems, think what you like.

And yes the developers mentioned it would be coming on other platforms, but hey, weird indeed.

To be honest, @5pinlink, I first read your initial comment the same way @ExAsperis99 did, but then I went back and read it again and see what you meant. Try reading it as if it meant "an iOS app by which to create hobby projects" and you'll see why he got defensive.

AudioGus

audiblevideo

@AudioGus

And, cynicism aside, it would be amazing to have a mobile music app featured

Other than GarageBand, hell's yeah!

JohnnyGoodyear

@AudioGus said:

He always ended up making out with the green ones.

lukesleepwalker

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@AudioGus said:

He always ended up making out with the green ones.

That was one of the best episodes.

JohnnyGoodyear

@lukesleepwalker said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@AudioGus said:

He always ended up making out with the green ones.

That was one of the best episodes.

philowerx

The deeper the better.

kobamoto

so what midi controllers is everybody planning on pairing with BM3?

alecsbuga

@kobamoto said:
so what midi controllers is everybody planning on pairing with BM3?

I use a Novation Launchkey Mini MK2. You can midi map a lot of stuff in the UI of BM3: switching tracks, playing pads / selecting sounds... for instance: tap a pad to select the sound and play it chromatically on the keys (Maschine Style)

ElGregoLoco

Best thread ever

[Deleted User]

@5pinlink said:
This thread has it all, defensive misreads, demands on releases, Intua failure because it isn't released yet, lists of features that must be included, and now to top it all an insistance that IOS developers are doing it wrong because they are adding too many features.
Absolutely brilliant haha

You are saying iOS users are defensive, unsattisfied people with no sense of balance or reality check?
I'm agree but that's the way I like hobbies.

Just kidding, keep walking... nothing to see here... c'mon!

Korakios

@kobamoto said:
so what midi controllers is everybody planning on pairing with BM3?

Already have a Minilab mkII , mpd 218 (maybe I'll replace it with a korg padKontrol) and looking for an APC key 25...

gonekrazy3000

@kobamoto said:
so what midi controllers is everybody planning on pairing with BM3?

Dunno. Have a ton of devices. novation Launch control Xl, novation launchpad pro, 2 Keith McMillan k-boards, novation remote zero sl, m-audio x-session, m-audio keystation 88es, djtechtools midifighter pro cue master.... Whatever works well with it I guess... Will only know after I've had my hands on Bm3 for a while. The launchpad pro or the cuemaster will probably see a lot of use though.

[Deleted User]

@kobamoto said:
so what midi controllers is everybody planning on pairing with BM3?

Vestax pad one and launchkey (as proof of concept for building the launchcontrol pro in the future)