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New iPad Pro 12.9” (2017) - problem with latency and digital noise... SEEMS TO BE FIXED iOS 11.1 b2

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  • @Samplemunch said:
    Is the AU instancing fixed too ?

    If you mean that you can drive more than four instances of the same AUv3-instrument/efx...
    Yes...

  • edited October 2017

    So they now out perform Air 2, is that 100% confirmed ? looking forward to upgrading to one of these at some point if so.

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @Jumpercollins said:
    The other day I was using Beatonal on iPad 9.7 Pro (2016) model via a Novation Audio Hub 2x4. The sound was only coming out in mono left ear not right! All the audio interface setting were correct. Yet when I unplugged the interface a plugged in a set of headphones the app went back to stereo. Not sure if was iOS 10.3.3 or the app or the iPad causing the problem or the interface but it all works fine with other music apps.

    the audiohub has a strange issue with its headphone volume knob.specially once dust enters it. sometimes it mutes one side of the headphones. just twiddling the knob can fix it. its not an issue with the ipad. have had this issue happen for years now even with my desktop and its gotten worse over time so i'm used to it. will probably have to replace that knob eventually though.

    I have a similar problem with the Novation AudioHub but in my case it is the little button next to the headphone jack where you can select between 1-2 / 2-3. Mine doesn't pop out all the way when I click on it. In order to get mine to work, I have to push the channels selector down kind of hard, then grab it between my fingers and pull it out all the way.

    I remember when these first came out, they were like "This thing so SO LOUD" and IMO that's the only good thing about the AudioHub.

  • So it is confirmed all around the the new iPad pros are working properly or not. Still seems unclear

  • @Panthemusicalgoat said:
    So it is confirmed all around the the new iPad pros are working properly or not. Still seems unclear

    The update isn’t out for general release yet.

  • edited October 2017

    Ah I see. Beta 10.0.3 solved it? Maybe apple did pay attention to complaints. That's good news tho

  • @Panthemusicalgoat said:
    Ah I see. Beta 10.0.3 solved it? Maybe apple did pay attention to complaints. That's good news tho

    I think it's the 11.1 beta and yes, it sounds very promising. It seems to fix the digital noise and the latency from reports here. There might be some further glitches that still need resolving so we'll see.

  • https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/20/ios-11-1-watchos-4-1-tvos-11-1-beta-4/

    Audio

    Resolved Issues

    Fixed an occasionally occurring issue with audio latency or distortion on iPad Pro (12.9- inch) (2nd generation) and iPad Pro (10.5-inch). (33844393)

  • @Panthemusicalgoat said:
    So it is confirmed all around the the new iPad pros are working properly or not. Still seems unclear

    At least, my new 12.9" iPad Pro is healthy and sounds terrific now!
    But, it has been a long journey since mid June 2017 to have it fixed...

  • 10.5” all good on beta 1.1

  • 10.5” seems OK on 11.1 beta 4 here too.

  • Hi everybody,
    I've been following that thread for a few weeks as I'm planing on buying a pro 10.5 exclusivly for "on the move" music production.
    Happy to hear the latency and glitchy/noise issues are now fixed.

    But as someone mentioned it.
    What about the cpu power improvement compared to first gen pros and previous Ipad?
    I mean is there anyone who could make a real cpu/instances comparations?
    How many fx or AUv3...

    Someone were asking if it was now surpassing the Air2 in terms of instances. I definitely hope so. It should be on par with the cpu bump and more "audio powerfull" than even ipad pro gen 1 to justify its purchase over an older Ipad model.

    Any info or datas about it would be welcome.
    Thanks
    Moher

  • I just had it with 11.1 4 beta, will post vid soon...

  • @KlaatuNinja said:
    I just had it with 11.1 4 beta, will post vid soon...

    Noooooooooooooooooooo!

  • @gusgranite said:

    @KlaatuNinja said:
    I just had it with 11.1 4 beta, will post vid soon...

    Noooooooooooooooooooo!

    Ok, what model of iPad?
    I have been totally liberated from any problems since beta 2 of iOS 11.1...
    Other kind of problem with certain apps have we had since the early days of music apps (stutter and peculiar behavior).... But is your problem just like the sort of that started this thread?

  • @KlaatuNinja
    Is it due to an app or to ios?
    Will you send video to Apple through Feedback Assistant?

  • Woah, I just pulled the trigger on a new Pro 12.9 in the assumption the problems were fixed with 11.1. Please say it is so.

  • @HokieKev said:

    https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/20/ios-11-1-watchos-4-1-tvos-11-1-beta-4/

    Audio

    Resolved Issues

    Fixed an occasionally occurring issue with audio latency or distortion on iPad Pro (12.9- inch) (2nd generation) and iPad Pro (10.5-inch). (33844393)

    I think that Apple thinks they have found and fixed the problem in iOS. I hope any remaining issues are application specific; but I am following this thread too - planning to pick up a 12.9 once the dust settles for a bit.

  • @Munibeast said:
    Woah, I just pulled the trigger on a new Pro 12.9 in the assumption the problems were fixed with 11.1. Please say it is so.

    As the guy who started this thread, I can certainly assure you that all problem around increasing latency and temporarily attacks of digital noise and crackles ARE GONE!

    Just to be clear: This is on my iPad Pro 12.9” with celluar and 256GB, bought mid June 2017...
    I can’t assure you to 100% that other combinations of the new generation of iPad Pro 2017 don’t have any leftover firmware bugs to take care of by Apple...

    But, take it cool, everything will be fixed...

  • edited October 2017

    Here you go, this was after about 3mins, no AU, just GarageBand instruments. 10 tracks, this only happens with the headphone plugged in. It’s fine with the lightning to audio cable.

    Using 11.1 Beta 4

  • Okay, thanks! I hope it’ll be alright then. I ordered a 12.9 512GB Wifi version on eglobal for just over 1k, it’s coming from the UK and they probably get it from Hongkong... So returning it would be tricky. Fingers crossed.

  • @KlaatuNinja said:
    Here you go, this was after about 3mins, no AU, just GarageBand instruments. 10 tracks, this only happens with the headphone plugged in. It’s fine with the lightning to audio cable.

    Using 11.1 Beta 4

    Sigh. So it's not solved then. I use my headphones 99% of the time while using a cck for my midi controllers.

  • @moher said:
    Hi everybody,
    I've been following that thread for a few weeks as I'm planing on buying a pro 10.5 exclusivly for "on the move" music production.
    Happy to hear the latency and glitchy/noise issues are now fixed.

    But as someone mentioned it.
    What about the cpu power improvement compared to first gen pros and previous Ipad?
    I mean is there anyone who could make a real cpu/instances comparations?
    How many fx or AUv3...

    Someone were asking if it was now surpassing the Air2 in terms of instances. I definitely hope so. It should be on par with the cpu bump and more "audio powerfull" than even ipad pro gen 1 to justify its purchase over an older Ipad model.

    Any info or datas about it would be welcome.
    Thanks
    Moher

    From my tests, the 10.5 is about twice as powerfull as the Air 2, based on how many instances of high-end plugins I can use in Gadget.

    I did a test on the Air 2 with the default ODYSSEi preset and a 3 note chord.

    Smallest buffersize and on the Air 2 I could get 7 ODYSSEi's (adding nr. 8 created glitches/distortion).

    On the 10.5" I could run 14 without any problems, adding nr. 15 introduced glitches when interacting with the app (scrolling etc).

    This also seems to be in line with what Geekbench scores are indicating.

  • Hello Peter,
    Thanks a lot for running a comparaison test between ipad air 2 and pro 10.5.
    New pro seems to be promissing in terms of power for what you say!
    Thanks again

  • edited October 2017

    @KlaatuNinja
    Garageband was last updated 6 months ago! Suggest you mention in your Feedback that it may be causing the problem you encountered. Maybe another beta tester on a pro2 could confirm. Sorry, I haven’t used GB yet.

  • @KlaatuNinja said:
    Here you go, this was after about 3mins, no AU, just GarageBand instruments. 10 tracks, this only happens with the headphone plugged in. It’s fine with the lightning to audio cable.

    Using 11.1 Beta 4

    Please everyone on the beta report this to Apple.
    Strange that they fixed it with beta 2 and then broke it again with beta 4.
    At least no problem with audio through lightning but it needs to be fixed.

  • I’ll report it if I see it. beta 4

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  • @d4d0ug said:
    I’m using a 10.5” on 11.0.3 and haven’t experienced latency or noise since switching bm3 to use 48khz output sample frequency. I read somewhere back in the threads to try this. Is this a genuine workaround or am I being lucky for the time being I wonder?

    I haven't had any problems since switching to 48khz. (about two weeks ago)

  • @Peter321 said:

    @moher said:
    Hi everybody,
    I've been following that thread for a few weeks as I'm planing on buying a pro 10.5 exclusivly for "on the move" music production.
    Happy to hear the latency and glitchy/noise issues are now fixed.

    But as someone mentioned it.
    What about the cpu power improvement compared to first gen pros and previous Ipad?
    I mean is there anyone who could make a real cpu/instances comparations?
    How many fx or AUv3...

    Someone were asking if it was now surpassing the Air2 in terms of instances. I definitely hope so. It should be on par with the cpu bump and more "audio powerfull" than even ipad pro gen 1 to justify its purchase over an older Ipad model.

    Any info or datas about it would be welcome.
    Thanks
    Moher

    From my tests, the 10.5 is about twice as powerfull as the Air 2, based on how many instances of high-end plugins I can use in Gadget.

    I did a test on the Air 2 with the default ODYSSEi preset and a 3 note chord.

    Smallest buffersize and on the Air 2 I could get 7 ODYSSEi's (adding nr. 8 created glitches/distortion).

    On the 10.5" I could run 14 without any problems, adding nr. 15 introduced glitches when interacting with the app (scrolling etc).

    This also seems to be in line with what Geekbench scores are indicating.

    This doesn't really cover the issue, it is about AU instances, Air 2 can run way more than the pros, because of a memory allocation issue with the pros, can you test this for us if you get chance, thanks.

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