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Why does Gadget sound terrible to me?

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  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti

    @u0421793 said:
    All iPad synths are shit. I don't know how we ever thought they were any good. Must be mass hypnosis.

    And, mr @u0421793 you’re still here on the forum?
    If you think everything is shit, why bother to be here at all? Pessimistic son of a bitch!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited August 2017

    Dont forget you can import into the audio tracks of gadget....

    https://m.soundcloud.com/dave-magoo-1/space-jazz-interlude

    https://m.soundcloud.com/dave-magoo-1/bad-hero

    https://m.soundcloud.com/dave-magoo-1/drifting

    https://m.soundcloud.com/dave-magoo-1/last-light

    https://m.soundcloud.com/dave-magoo-1/duskriser

    Which ones are Nanostudio, which are Gadget?

    Ps: no cheating!

  • LittlewoodgLittlewoodg

    S_nV_x

  • PanthemusicalgoatPanthemusicalgoat

    Gadget has a terrible sequence editor. Its so bad that even after learning it fairly well it just feels like a weird port that wasn't meant for iPhone. Also the lack of preset sharing (emailing, etc) and the huge system hog it is. I love nanostudio. Still my favorite synth/daw combo to date and still sounds fantastic.

    I think korg isn't very connected to the rest of the ios community. Can't get ahold of them and tech support just tells you to try restarting your device instead of making a more optimized code.

    Gadget glitches out for me at 128 buffer on an iPhone 6s Plus even with 2 instruments. I think thats unacceptable for the quality of sound. Forget running it thru audiobus. What a nightmare.

    So sad well be saying goodbye to nanostudio soon (32 bit purge) but hopefully nanostudio 2 will save the day. It's going to be ipad only initially but Matt says it will eventually get an iPhone version as well

  • PanthemusicalgoatPanthemusicalgoat
    edited August 2017

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @u0421793 said:
    All iPad synths are shit. I don't know how we ever thought they were any good. Must be mass hypnosis.

    And, mr @u0421793 you’re still here on the forum?
    If you think everything is shit, why bother to be here at all? Pessimistic son of a bitch!

    Uh ever heard of sunrizer, magellan, thor or model15? They sound fantastic and very warm. Maybe older generation+technology issue?

  • wimwim
    edited August 2017

    Um. I'm pretty sure the post you're taking exception to is sarcasm (or more accurately, irony).

    i·ro·ny
    /ˈīrənē/
    noun
    the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
    "“Don't go overboard with the gratitude,” he rejoined with heavy irony"
    synonyms: sarcasm, causticity, cynicism, mockery, satire, sardonicism
    "that note of irony in her voice"

    I could be wrong though. B)

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  • PanthemusicalgoatPanthemusicalgoat
    edited August 2017

    Beathawk is not a synth. Its a sample based instrument not actually synthesis.

    Sorry. Guess that didn't really answer you question tho. I agree about the closed system being very limiting for music work flow. Kinda selfish on the part of developers

  • wimwim

    @tja said:
    About comparing Gadget and Beathawk, both can be controlled by MIDI, both can export Audio and MIDI and as Ableton project.

    But Gadget can export to AudioShare, AudioCopy and Dropbox - so you can actually use what you did!

    I cannot see that for Beathawk!

    It just can export into a black hole and you can use whatever you did only in Beathawk again - so, for me, BeatHawk is quite useless.

    I need the MIDI and Audio elsewhere!

    And when using in AudioBus, BeatHawk is the same as Gadget, it can only export the mixdown as Audio, not as multitrack.

    So, as closed box as Gadget seems to me, I have the impression that BeatHawk is much more closed.

    Am I wrong?

    Yes, you are wrong about BeatHawk. Almost none of what you've posted is accurate.

  • wimwim
    edited August 2017

    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Thank you for doing the needful there Doctor...

  • wimwim
    edited August 2017

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - it has live MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

  • wimwim

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Thank you for doing the needful there Doctor...

    It is quite confusing. Some odd design decisions in there for sure.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Thank you for doing the needful there Doctor...

    It is quite confusing. Some odd design decisions in there for sure.

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

  • wimwim
    edited August 2017

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Thank you for doing the needful there Doctor...

    It is quite confusing. Some odd design decisions in there for sure.

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    True. I guess it could have been a lot worse. Like long-nose-press to export or something.

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  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

  • lovadamusiclovadamusic

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    If a developer produced a manual explaining how something is done, and it works well, I'm not complaining.

  • robosardinerobosardine

    @u0421793 said:
    All iPad synths are shit. I don't know how we ever thought they were any good. Must be mass hypnosis.

    Have you tried Plinkfest by Catatonia?

  • RulesOfBlazonRulesOfBlazon

    @u0421793 said:
    All iPad synths are shit. I don't know how we ever thought they were any good. Must be mass hypnosis.

    Try playin 'em with yer face...

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @RulesOfBlazon said:

    @u0421793 said:
    All iPad synths are shit. I don't know how we ever thought they were any good. Must be mass hypnosis.

    Try playin 'em with yer face...

    I have to confess that I have played using my tongue a time or two. Okay, actually I was removing doughnut glaze that had gotten on the screen and was causing a disruption in the flow of my fingers on the glass. First world problem...

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @oat_phipps said:
    TapDelay is the only good thing they've made for iOS, and that is easily topped by the Fabfilter.

    TapDelay is a really nice app. Having said that, I must agree that against Timeless 2 it's always going to come second.

  • TommygunTommygun

    What a thread!

    Feels like the "every new app is so great, amazing and wonderful" times are really over :D

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti

    @tja said:
    About comparing Gadget and Beathawk, both can be controlled by MIDI, both can export Audio and MIDI and as Ableton project.

    But Gadget can export to AudioShare, AudioCopy and Dropbox - so you can actually use what you did!

    I cannot see that for Beathawk!

    It just can export into a black hole and you can use whatever you did only in Beathawk again - so, for me, BeatHawk is quite useless.

    I need the MIDI and Audio elsewhere!

    And when using in AudioBus, BeatHawk is the same as Gadget, it can only export the mixdown as Audio, not as multitrack.

    So, as closed box as Gadget seems to me, I have the impression that BeatHawk is much more closed.

    Am I wrong?

    But, the wonderful with Beathawk 2 is that you can use it in ex Beatmaker 3 as an AUv3 plug...
    I really love Beathawk (and Beatmaker 3 of course), but, can’t really see any big disadvantages in Korg Gadget...
    We should thanks Korg Inc. for their job to put iOS forward in many ways. Many of the synth is really good, and can easily be used into Beatmaker 3 also...

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited August 2017

    I've never, ever finished a song with Gadget, or even used blocks of audio from it.

    No massive reason why - generally I think it sounds great, but things like transposing sections, or finding I've started the beat halfway through a pattern stop me every time.

    Sometimes it's the little things.

    Saying that I don't regret buying it, probably, as I've had some fun (unrecorded) jams with it. But very unlikely I'll be buying new Gadgets for it, particularly now BM3's on the scene.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited August 2017

    @Tommygun said:
    What a thread!

    Feels like the "every new app is so great, amazing and wonderful" times are really over :D

    Enthusiasm is great, but the blind enthusiasm we sometimes see, and occasional tribe-like fanaticism, helps nobody. Nowadays I try to hold back, and see what real users make of a new release.

    Sometimes, I think an app is not for me, and get persuaded otherwise, but more often I see a demo and end up thinking what's on offer is not better or sufficiently different to what I already own.

    Gadget, I don't regret buying, or the IAP's. It's more a case of me discovering how I work best, what works for me, and along the way finding that Gadget for all its invention and expansion is just not a route that suits me.

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    I deleted Gadget too recently. I'm sure I'll reinstall it again when I get a new ipad with more space. I never found the workflow produced interesting results for me and the closed system perhaps seems right for when it came out. But now is pretty old fashioned. Always interested to see any new updates though.

  • knewspeakknewspeak

    The Anti-Hype thread? The old king is dead....

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

  • LucidMusicIncLucidMusicInc

    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

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