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Why does Gadget sound terrible to me?

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  • @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

  • @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

    And is a pattern made up of multiple other patterns (like a scene) ? i.e a drum part, bass part, etc....or do you need to add each individually to the song mode ?

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

    And is a pattern made up of multiple other patterns (like a scene) ? i.e a drum part, bass part, etc....or do you need to add each individually to the song mode ?

    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

  • @jn2002dk said:
    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

    Which is part of what makes BH and now BM3 apps that are well worth owning.

    Gadget, while also worth owning, seems nailed to a walled garden approach. Gadget could be so much more, except Korg doesn't want to be in that category.

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @jn2002dk said:
    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

    Which is part of what makes BH and now BM3 apps that are well worth owning.

    Gadget, while also worth owning, seems nailed to a walled garden approach. Gadget could be so much more, except Korg doesn't want to be in that category.

    Agree 100%

    And since they made BH an au, it's even better

  • edited August 2017

    @jn2002dk said:
    Agree 100%

    And since they made BH an au, it's even better

    Yeah, that was what made me give it another chance. I'd installed it previously, loved the sounds, but not really got on with the workflow.

    An AudioDabbler video helped me to understand what I was not quite getting about the app, then the AU update arrived, so I reinstalled BeatHawk and bought a bunch of sound packs in the recent sale. Happy days.

  • @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

    And is a pattern made up of multiple other patterns (like a scene) ? i.e a drum part, bass part, etc....or do you need to add each individually to the song mode ?

    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

    So is a pad an individual pattern for an individual sound, and then the pattern an arrangement of those pads ?

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

    And is a pattern made up of multiple other patterns (like a scene) ? i.e a drum part, bass part, etc....or do you need to add each individually to the song mode ?

    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

    So is a pad an individual pattern for an individual sound, and then the pattern an arrangement of those pads ?

    Yup and each pad has it's own sequencer where you can enter/edit notes

  • @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

    And is a pattern made up of multiple other patterns (like a scene) ? i.e a drum part, bass part, etc....or do you need to add each individually to the song mode ?

    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

    So is a pad an individual pattern for an individual sound, and then the pattern an arrangement of those pads ?

    Yup and each pad has it's own sequencer where you can enter/edit notes

    And how well does it work if you are not using it's internal sounds....does it have good midi in/out capability as i am mainly using external gear....can it record midi CC's and NRPN's ?

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

    And is a pattern made up of multiple other patterns (like a scene) ? i.e a drum part, bass part, etc....or do you need to add each individually to the song mode ?

    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

    So is a pad an individual pattern for an individual sound, and then the pattern an arrangement of those pads ?

    Yup and each pad has it's own sequencer where you can enter/edit notes

    And how well does it work if you are not using it's internal sounds....does it have good midi in/out capability as i am mainly using external gear....can it record midi CC's and NRPN's ?

    Now we're out of my comfort zone. While i've brought in a sample or 2, i primarily use the internal sounds since their high quality is part of the lure for me. Either as a standalone composing tool or as an AU in BM3. I haven't used it with midi so hopefully someone else can answer that

  • @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

    And is a pattern made up of multiple other patterns (like a scene) ? i.e a drum part, bass part, etc....or do you need to add each individually to the song mode ?

    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

    So is a pad an individual pattern for an individual sound, and then the pattern an arrangement of those pads ?

    Yup and each pad has it's own sequencer where you can enter/edit notes

    And how well does it work if you are not using it's internal sounds....does it have good midi in/out capability as i am mainly using external gear....can it record midi CC's and NRPN's ?

    Now we're out of my comfort zone. While i've brought in a sample or 2, i primarily use the internal sounds since their high quality is part of the lure for me. Either as a standalone composing tool or as an AU in BM3. I haven't used it with midi so hopefully someone else can answer that

    :) thanks for getting me this far..most appreciated

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

    And is a pattern made up of multiple other patterns (like a scene) ? i.e a drum part, bass part, etc....or do you need to add each individually to the song mode ?

    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

    So is a pad an individual pattern for an individual sound, and then the pattern an arrangement of those pads ?

    Yup and each pad has it's own sequencer where you can enter/edit notes

    And how well does it work if you are not using it's internal sounds....does it have good midi in/out capability as i am mainly using external gear....can it record midi CC's and NRPN's ?

    Now we're out of my comfort zone. While i've brought in a sample or 2, i primarily use the internal sounds since their high quality is part of the lure for me. Either as a standalone composing tool or as an AU in BM3. I haven't used it with midi so hopefully someone else can answer that

    :) thanks for getting me this far..most appreciated

    You're welcome :)

  • Really appreciate your clear and concise explanation of BH's patterns. Im really excited to learn this process better as well as BM3's pattern mode. But what confuses me is song mode. Say I cr and I a song in BH and then I want to use it BH as an AU, will the song be different or same in each instance?

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

    And is a pattern made up of multiple other patterns (like a scene) ? i.e a drum part, bass part, etc....or do you need to add each individually to the song mode ?

    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

  • @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Really appreciate your clear and concise explanation of BH's patterns. Im really excited to learn this process better as well as BM3's pattern mode. But what confuses me is song mode. Say I cr and I a song in BH and then I want to use it BH as an AU, will the song be different or same in each instance?

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @wim said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @triton100 said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    B> @triton100 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    Briefly:

    • Go to song mode and click export
    • Export Multi
    • Get out of song mode and go to the browser
    • Open Exports and you should see a folder with the export. Two-finger tap the folder and tap "Zip Directory" in the popup menu.
    • Two-finger tap the resulting zip file, and pick iCloud Export file. Then Locations to pick the destination (Dropbox, AudioShare, etc.)

    For midi it's similar, except you don't need to zip the folder. Just browse to the midi file, two-finger tap, etc.

    Basically, you can export any file. Folders have to be zipped first to export them.

    Having it being an AUv3 as well "opens" many, many possibilities. And - MIDI Out. So, no I wouldn't call BeatHawk more closed than Gadget by any stretch.

    Uhh

    You're right.

    But.

    What I wrote was my impression!

    I tried around with Beathawk and found it terrible closed box - and never touched it again.

    Why?

    Because there is no export possibilty for your current song!
    You need to first save it and then search it again in the file browser - already not such a good idea.

    But then:

    WHAT????

    Two-finger tap?????

    Who will ever get to this idea?
    Only people who read the manual?
    Only those who read your posting?

    This is ridiculous..

    Two-finger tab.

    I really don't know what to answer here.

    Why not three finger-tap with a follow-up Two-finger hold?

    That's just stupid, to say the least.

    I can imagine that many, many, many people also never got this!

    And then, even if you know: The export then is called "iCloud"!!!
    WHY???

    Most people will just say "damn, again no support for AudioShare" - or whatever they wanted to do.

    This button should not be named "iCloud", really.
    Again: Stupid

    You can call me stupid too, but really those are bad bad bad design and naming ideas!!!

    But thanks, this gives Beathawk a new chance with me ;-)

    Agreed, but boy it's easy to write songs in...

    Do you find it easier to write songs in beathawk 2 than beatmaker 3?
    I'm curious because a lot of people seem to be using beathawk within bm3 yet if beathawk is that intuitive for song arrangement I'm wondering why people don't use beathawk as the 'daw' instead of bm3?

    In terms of sampling/audio editing, there simply is no comparison between the two... people probably use Bheathawk in BM3 because a) they can, its AU and b) it's got good sampled content, while BM3 needs to continue to populate their sound store.

    Ok cool thanks

    Some people. Sure. But that wasn't my point. I (me, me, me) find Beathawk a very easy place to write songs. Whether I end up remaking them elsewhere, exporting stems, doing other stuff which could be considered producing the material after the event, but as regards, you know, the writing NOT the production, I find Beathawk one of the best environments to get quickly beyond the perfect eight or 16 bar prison.

    Mr JG what is it about Beathawk that does this for you? And when you have composed...do you have to recreate in production software or can you export over what you have ?

    Well. I'm certainly a sucker for a pattern, song mode and I work well with the one in BH. I find the recording in real time very fluid (and the corrections now they have a timeline also help). While it's hard (for me) to technically explain it, I find writing changes between one section, verse/chorus, whatever to be simpler on the ear, as regards delivering/developing what you're after. And I like the samples/packs (mostly). Typically I export bits into Auria OR if I've developed/nailed a melody I like, recreate it elsewhere. More the former than the latter probably, but -again- it's the writing facility I appreciate the most. Too easy for a fool like me to forget that that's my interest/strong point compared to just being overly impressed with 'look I made a credible' sound! I'm interested in the songs more than the tunes, if that makes any kind of sense...

    I agree a lot with JG about things flowing out of BeatHawk pretty naturally. It's something about the organization, maybe that things are broken up into tider bits for focus. And since they added MIDI out, it really shines in an AB3 setup. I'm not a big sample pack collector, so being able to use it with my apps of choice is really big.

    But, having been almost totally immersed in BM3 the last couple of weeks, I'm finding that my workflows in both are very similar, but instead of having to wire things together using AB3 and AUM, MidiFlow adapters and all that load, I can do most of what I want in BM3, plus tons more. OK, a little unstable, and IAA still sux no matter where used, but basically it's all there.

    Sorry, I know this thread is about Gadget. On that score, one place Gadget shines for me is for composing on the iPhone in those little break-times. On the phone I don't like having to wire stuff together and constantly shift between portrait and landscape. With Gadget I can fire it up and be ready to go in seconds. I have that huge pile of sounds to pick from, and if I like what I did with one button up it goes to the cloud for taking further on the iPad later.

    Gadget's sound is good enough for me, but that's not saying anything as I'm just a hack. I can totally understand if the sound grates on the OP. You can't overcome those things. They're just there. Like how I unreasonably detest the Toyota Prius, iTunes and Facebook for no reasons I can explain.

    It's not unreasonable to detest ITunes or Facebook. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Interesting, and thanks for the info peeps....I don't own either Beathowk or BM3 so cannot mentally compare...how does the workflow compare to say ModStep/Gadget with the scene methodology

    In Beathawk you create patterns which you then string together in song mode. The cool thing here is that you can mute/unmute various pads in song mode

    BM3 has a scene mode which is similar to Modstep. Of course it also comes with a standard song mode

    And is a pattern made up of multiple other patterns (like a scene) ? i.e a drum part, bass part, etc....or do you need to add each individually to the song mode ?

    You need to add each individually but the muting of pads means you can record a pattern with 16 pads and reuse it a lot by selecting which pads are used in each instance of the pattern in song mode

    When you load BH as an au, it starts with the default kit and no song so you can load what ever you'd like into each instance i think

    I haven't tried that approach though. When i use it as an au it's for the instruments. I use the song mode for composing inside BH

  • Thanks bro!
    So far I really like the sounds in BH a lot and would really love to learn its pattern system as I'm mostly on iPhone but would love to create there then send it to the big momma BM3 or Cubasis.

  • @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Thanks bro!
    So far I really like the sounds in BH a lot and would really love to learn its pattern system as I'm mostly on iPhone but would love to create there then send it to the big momma BM3 or Cubasis.

    You're welcome

    BH on iphone is brilliant in my opinion and there are plenty of ways to get your sound out to a daw once you're back at your ipad

    It is very capable on it's own as well. There is an immediacy about it for me. It's hard to explain what exactly it is, but i find it extremely fast to get going in BH compared to almost anything else

  • @jn2002dk said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Thanks bro!
    So far I really like the sounds in BH a lot and would really love to learn its pattern system as I'm mostly on iPhone but would love to create there then send it to the big momma BM3 or Cubasis.

    You're welcome

    BH on iphone is brilliant in my opinion and there are plenty of ways to get your sound out to a daw once you're back at your ipad

    It is very capable on it's own as well. There is an immediacy about it for me. It's hard to explain what exactly it is, but i find it extremely fast to get going in BH compared to almost anything else

    Same here, and goodness knows I've spent enough money trying everything else. :D This is why I get along so well with Beathawk's simplistic workflow. And of course when I'm done, I can just bounce out the stems in song mode to import into other DAWs for further mixdown and work.

  • With so little time this is exactly what I need. Something like KRFT to record what's on my mind fast. Lord knows it goes away fast if not payed down on a sequence quick.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Thanks bro!
    So far I really like the sounds in BH a lot and would really love to learn its pattern system as I'm mostly on iPhone but would love to create there then send it to the big momma BM3 or Cubasis.

    You're welcome

    BH on iphone is brilliant in my opinion and there are plenty of ways to get your sound out to a daw once you're back at your ipad

    It is very capable on it's own as well. There is an immediacy about it for me. It's hard to explain what exactly it is, but i find it extremely fast to get going in BH compared to almost anything else

    Same here, and goodness knows I've spent enough money trying everything else. :D This is why I get along so well with Beathawk's simplistic workflow. And of course when I'm done, I can just bounce out the stems in song mode to import into other DAWs for further mixdown and work.

    Can you also export the 'bounced' midi instead of audio, for import into cubasis ?

  • edited August 2017

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Thanks bro!
    So far I really like the sounds in BH a lot and would really love to learn its pattern system as I'm mostly on iPhone but would love to create there then send it to the big momma BM3 or Cubasis.

    You're welcome

    BH on iphone is brilliant in my opinion and there are plenty of ways to get your sound out to a daw once you're back at your ipad

    It is very capable on it's own as well. There is an immediacy about it for me. It's hard to explain what exactly it is, but i find it extremely fast to get going in BH compared to almost anything else

    Same here, and goodness knows I've spent enough money trying everything else. :D This is why I get along so well with Beathawk's simplistic workflow. And of course when I'm done, I can just bounce out the stems in song mode to import into other DAWs for further mixdown and work.

    Can you also export the 'bounced' midi instead of audio, for import into cubasis ?

    I've never used it but there is an export midi option though i wouldn't get BH for it's midi sequencing abilities to be honest. It's somewhat quirky and there are other apps that are better sequences

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  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Thanks bro!
    So far I really like the sounds in BH a lot and would really love to learn its pattern system as I'm mostly on iPhone but would love to create there then send it to the big momma BM3 or Cubasis.

    You're welcome

    BH on iphone is brilliant in my opinion and there are plenty of ways to get your sound out to a daw once you're back at your ipad

    It is very capable on it's own as well. There is an immediacy about it for me. It's hard to explain what exactly it is, but i find it extremely fast to get going in BH compared to almost anything else

    Same here, and goodness knows I've spent enough money trying everything else. :D This is why I get along so well with Beathawk's simplistic workflow. And of course when I'm done, I can just bounce out the stems in song mode to import into other DAWs for further mixdown and work.

    Can you also export the 'bounced' midi instead of audio, for import into cubasis ?

    Oh yes. "Export MIDI" is right below "Export Multi". :) Cheers.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Thanks bro!
    So far I really like the sounds in BH a lot and would really love to learn its pattern system as I'm mostly on iPhone but would love to create there then send it to the big momma BM3 or Cubasis.

    You're welcome

    BH on iphone is brilliant in my opinion and there are plenty of ways to get your sound out to a daw once you're back at your ipad

    It is very capable on it's own as well. There is an immediacy about it for me. It's hard to explain what exactly it is, but i find it extremely fast to get going in BH compared to almost anything else

    Same here, and goodness knows I've spent enough money trying everything else. :D This is why I get along so well with Beathawk's simplistic workflow. And of course when I'm done, I can just bounce out the stems in song mode to import into other DAWs for further mixdown and work.

    Can you also export the 'bounced' midi instead of audio, for import into cubasis ?

    Oh yes. "Export MIDI" is right below "Export Multi". :) Cheers.

    Thanks :)

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Thanks bro!
    So far I really like the sounds in BH a lot and would really love to learn its pattern system as I'm mostly on iPhone but would love to create there then send it to the big momma BM3 or Cubasis.

    You're welcome

    BH on iphone is brilliant in my opinion and there are plenty of ways to get your sound out to a daw once you're back at your ipad

    It is very capable on it's own as well. There is an immediacy about it for me. It's hard to explain what exactly it is, but i find it extremely fast to get going in BH compared to almost anything else

    Same here, and goodness knows I've spent enough money trying everything else. :D This is why I get along so well with Beathawk's simplistic workflow. And of course when I'm done, I can just bounce out the stems in song mode to import into other DAWs for further mixdown and work.

    Can you also export the 'bounced' midi instead of audio, for import into cubasis ?

    Oh yes. "Export MIDI" is right below "Export Multi". :) Cheers.

    Thanks :)

    No problem mate. Enjoy. :)

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Thanks bro!
    So far I really like the sounds in BH a lot and would really love to learn its pattern system as I'm mostly on iPhone but would love to create there then send it to the big momma BM3 or Cubasis.

    You're welcome

    BH on iphone is brilliant in my opinion and there are plenty of ways to get your sound out to a daw once you're back at your ipad

    It is very capable on it's own as well. There is an immediacy about it for me. It's hard to explain what exactly it is, but i find it extremely fast to get going in BH compared to almost anything else

    Same here, and goodness knows I've spent enough money trying everything else. :D This is why I get along so well with Beathawk's simplistic workflow. And of course when I'm done, I can just bounce out the stems in song mode to import into other DAWs for further mixdown and work.

    Can you also export the 'bounced' midi instead of audio, for import into cubasis ?

    Oh yes. "Export MIDI" is right below "Export Multi". :) Cheers.

    I was gonna give this a go for £9.99 but just before purchase noticed it 1 GB....that's a bit steep space wise for me (16GB Mini 2) :|

  • It's worth it though. The sounds are superb! And it's AU!

  • @AndyPlankton said:
    I was gonna give this a go for £9.99 but just before purchase noticed it 1 GB....that's a bit steep space wise for me (16GB Mini 2) :|

    I deleted it three times because of that. But when they added midi out I thought it worth giving another go since I wanted to see if it would be a good iPhone sequencer. The fourth time it clicked and I actually removed some other stuff so that I could keep it on the phone. Now I use it a lot on both platforms.

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Thanks bro!
    So far I really like the sounds in BH a lot and would really love to learn its pattern system as I'm mostly on iPhone but would love to create there then send it to the big momma BM3 or Cubasis.

    You're welcome

    BH on iphone is brilliant in my opinion and there are plenty of ways to get your sound out to a daw once you're back at your ipad

    It is very capable on it's own as well. There is an immediacy about it for me. It's hard to explain what exactly it is, but i find it extremely fast to get going in BH compared to almost anything else

    Same here, and goodness knows I've spent enough money trying everything else. :D This is why I get along so well with Beathawk's simplistic workflow. And of course when I'm done, I can just bounce out the stems in song mode to import into other DAWs for further mixdown and work.

    Can you also export the 'bounced' midi instead of audio, for import into cubasis ?

    Oh yes. "Export MIDI" is right below "Export Multi". :) Cheers.

    I was gonna give this a go for £9.99 but just before purchase noticed it 1 GB....that's a bit steep space wise for me (16GB Mini 2) :|

    The new 2017 iPad (i.e. The "Air 3" as I like to call it) is under $500 here. Probably more expensive in the UK since the pillocks at Apple like to screw the UK over. However, with 128gb of space, you can't go wrong. If it weren't for my extensive samples collection nor the fact I needed more screen real estate to see my sheet music, I'd have gone iPad 2017 myself. Might be time for an upgrade mate.

  • I bet the new Propellerhead Reason mobile will be brilliant :) ........ just a thought. It might be a while until it's out- but they are making it. So if you can just hold on.

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