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Song Of The Month Club - December 2017

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  • @moff said:
    Awesome, as usual, man!
    Mystical melody on start, and your voice is great
    Your manner of execution reminds me of old SKA singers from my youth :)
    I particularly liked the piece starting with the second minute, cool effects

    Thanks man! I appreciate the kind words. I dig that old ska stuff, but never had the pleasure of playing ska in any bands I've been in. About the bridge at 2:00 - I had concerns that maybe that goes on longer than it should, so I'm glad to hear you like it. Cheers!

  • @Shaken&;Stirred said:
    It's great to see all the traffic here in the last couple months! Here's mine for this month...

    • Built in BM3
    • Seekbeats
    • DRC
    • Model 15
    • Kauldron
    • Turnado to shake things up a big (beats and the bridge)
    • Guitar reamped with Gadget's Rosario, (and I really like what Audio Damage's QuatroMod - Diffusor did on this)
    • Mixed in Auria with Microwarmer, FabFilters Pro-C2, Pro-L (for mastering), Pro Q2, Pro-R

    Drips

    VERSE
    Play this game, at your own risk
    Supervision not required
    Bite the old ways, taste a new twist
    Cast Your derision into the fire

    PRE-CHORUS
    Some get stuck on the rules
    Hellbent on payin’ dues
    The sun shines brighter
    For the easy rider

    CHORUS
    Build your own lemonade stand
    Step off the path through Candyland
    Lay your hard earned money down
    Take a sip, embrace the trip

    Which cup hides the magic bean
    Thumbnail rips the tangerine
    Grab it tight, with all your might
    squeeze, squeeze, squeeze until it drip, drip, drips

    VERSE
    Tell me your your poison, I’ll mix it right up
    Escape your prison, free your desires
    Break what’s destroying, I’ll fix it right up
    Click your heels, See what transpires

    I finally realized who your vice reminds me of: REM. What a great song. This is a truly brilliant mix and arrangement. All the little transitions just drive it along perfectly. Perfectly. Fabulous stuff..

  • @richardyot said:
    @nothumanatall welcome to the club. Nice jazzy track - very mellow and easy to listen to. Some weird tonalities at the start of the keys playing, like the lead was in a different key to the backing, but a nice piece of what I would term smooth jazz.

    Hey, thanks for listening and the thoughts. Hope to share and contribute more here!

  • @rickwaugh said:
    I've been sitting on this for a while. I wrote it in the Spring, as part of my composition class. It's a sonata for piano and violin. I've been trying to get it to sound the way I want - I still, despite all the various sound libraries I have purchased, cannot get a violin sound I like. I'm also finding that exporting midi from Notion, then importing it into Auria, I'm not getting all the dynamics that occur when playing the piece in Notion. So last week I exported it again, but this times as wav files, and imported those. The piano from Notion is pretty decent. The violin sound I have been massaging/beating, with various forms of EQ, compression, and filters, including Timeless, Saturn and Volcano. I wasn't so hung up on it sounding like a violin, I just didn't want it to sound like some pathetic, whiny toy.

    I of course also was not sure about subjecting folks to 6 minutes of one my classical compositions. B) But dammit, I'm pretty darn happy with this piece of music, so subject you to it I will. It's nothing crazy, not wandering off into the far reaches of listenable music. Anyhow, any and all comments welcome. Thoughts on the violin sound would be great, as I've pretty much lost all objectivity on it.

    it starts out with four short themes. It then goes into variations on each. At the end it wraps up with a restatement/conclusion.

    Very nice piece! I'm not much of a critic of classical pieces. Growing up, classical music was always something by bassoonist big sister listened to, that would send me running for my guitar and Van Halen albums! That said, this sounds good to me. For me, of the two, I actually like the violin sound better than the piano. I would maybe have preferred a richer piano that filled out the bottom end more. I also notice a couple held notes on the violin where I expected vibrato to kick in, but didn't. Again, I'm far from an expert, but he seems those string players always add that to the held notes, so I've come to expect it. Anyway, thank for sharing this, nice work!

  • @studs1966 said:
    As it's Christmas just around the corner......... But a Disco one!...... Enjoy!..... :)

    Bummer! I was really hoping for some disco sleigh bells! :)

    seriously, this sounds good. After listening to it, I read @rickwaugh 's comment about the vocals being a bit too loud at the beginning. That didn't strike me, but I thought the vocals around 1:50 might be a bit too quiet, so go figure! Nice work, and merry Christmas!

  • @Shaken&;Stirred said:

    @studs1966 said:
    As it's Christmas just around the corner......... But a Disco one!...... Enjoy!..... :)

    Bummer! I was really hoping for some disco sleigh bells! :)

    seriously, this sounds good. After listening to it, I read @rickwaugh 's comment about the vocals being a bit too loud at the beginning. That didn't strike me, but I thought the vocals around 1:50 might be a bit too quiet, so go figure! Nice work, and merry Christmas!

    Cheers mate. Your right about the vocals. I had I little trouble balancing the vocals in the mix. But I'm not complaining. The acapella was free. I thought about the Sliegh bells sound, but I didn't want it to sound like too Diana Ross "Best of Motown Christmas Songs". :D

  • @nothumanatall said:
    Alright, this is the FIRST TIME EVER I'm sharing a track I made. Feels weird.
    I did this a couple of months ago I guess, while trying to study for an exam. I was too stressed and making this was my solution for relaxing. I named it CCS, because I was studying for a cultural and critical studies course (creative, right?). It was kind of my "song of that moment" so I didn't (want to) make a lot of edits. I wanted it to have a jazzy, electronic and folk sound at the same time. Hope you like it, and hope I'll make and share more!

    Hey, welcome! Glad you took the leap. It always "feels weird" to me too, but especially here, sharing creations has always been a very positive experience for me.

    I had the same thoughts as others about the tonalities that seemed like they might be off. I'm not a jazz guy at all, so some of it may be lost on me, but I think including some repeating melody lines that don't require some much focus from the listener to "get" my help engage the listener more. The mix is real good though, and the sounds work well together. Looking forward to what you'll bring in January!

  • @Shaken&;Stirred said:

    @rickwaugh said:
    I've been sitting on this for a while. I wrote it in the Spring, as part of my composition class. It's a sonata for piano and violin. I've been trying to get it to sound the way I want - I still, despite all the various sound libraries I have purchased, cannot get a violin sound I like. I'm also finding that exporting midi from Notion, then importing it into Auria, I'm not getting all the dynamics that occur when playing the piece in Notion. So last week I exported it again, but this times as wav files, and imported those. The piano from Notion is pretty decent. The violin sound I have been massaging/beating, with various forms of EQ, compression, and filters, including Timeless, Saturn and Volcano. I wasn't so hung up on it sounding like a violin, I just didn't want it to sound like some pathetic, whiny toy.

    I of course also was not sure about subjecting folks to 6 minutes of one my classical compositions. B) But dammit, I'm pretty darn happy with this piece of music, so subject you to it I will. It's nothing crazy, not wandering off into the far reaches of listenable music. Anyhow, any and all comments welcome. Thoughts on the violin sound would be great, as I've pretty much lost all objectivity on it.

    it starts out with four short themes. It then goes into variations on each. At the end it wraps up with a restatement/conclusion.

    Very nice piece! I'm not much of a critic of classical pieces. Growing up, classical music was always something by bassoonist big sister listened to, that would send me running for my guitar and Van Halen albums! That said, this sounds good to me. For me, of the two, I actually like the violin sound better than the piano. I would maybe have preferred a richer piano that filled out the bottom end more. I also notice a couple held notes on the violin where I expected vibrato to kick in, but didn't. Again, I'm far from an expert, but he seems those string players always add that to the held notes, so I've come to expect it. Anyway, thank for sharing this, nice work!

    Yes, it's unfortunate that I can't get different sound libraries into Notion, and switch, because that's normally what you do to get whatever you want, at the right spots. But now that I think of it, I'll have to see if there is a vibrato marker that I can use. There's staccato, accents, I can make it louder or software. Will have to check that out.

  • @moff said:
    I decided to redone one of my old tracks for this month
    Hope you'll enjoy it :)

    wow man, this really kicks butt! very nice work! So much going on, but never feels like too much. Mix of sounds and textures are great - highs, lows, clean, dirt, left-side, right-side, it's all there and done well. I'd say you are a Gadget Master! ;)

  • @Shaken&;Stirred said:

    @nothumanatall said:
    Alright, this is the FIRST TIME EVER I'm sharing a track I made. Feels weird.
    I did this a couple of months ago I guess, while trying to study for an exam. I was too stressed and making this was my solution for relaxing. I named it CCS, because I was studying for a cultural and critical studies course (creative, right?). It was kind of my "song of that moment" so I didn't (want to) make a lot of edits. I wanted it to have a jazzy, electronic and folk sound at the same time. Hope you like it, and hope I'll make and share more!

    Hey, welcome! Glad you took the leap. It always "feels weird" to me too, but especially here, sharing creations has always been a very positive experience for me.

    I had the same thoughts as others about the tonalities that seemed like they might be off. I'm not a jazz guy at all, so some of it may be lost on me, but I think including some repeating melody lines that don't require some much focus from the listener to "get" my help engage the listener more. The mix is real good though, and the sounds work well together. Looking forward to what you'll bring in January!

    Hey! Thanks. Good points about the repeating melody lines and also that jazzy stuff. I agree with you, and others, that the keys sound weird at first. I guess I'm just used to it after listening to it over and over. I'm not a jazzy person either but I wanted to play (or mimic) that style while making this track. I like it this way but I definitely understand how it sounds weird. And thanks for the compliment on the mix. Right after I uploaded, it sounded like there was too much reverb on some of the instruments and I'm still not sure. But I guess it kind of works OK because there is not too much going on.

    Also, I was just checking out your track when I got the notification! I couldn't make my mind about the sound of the drum kit used but overall, sounds good! Which synth did you use for the melody starting at 2:14?

  • @rickwaugh said:

    @Shaken&;Stirred said:
    It's great to see all the traffic here in the last couple months! Here's mine for this month...

    • Built in BM3
    • Seekbeats
    • DRC
    • Model 15
    • Kauldron
    • Turnado to shake things up a big (beats and the bridge)
    • Guitar reamped with Gadget's Rosario, (and I really like what Audio Damage's QuatroMod - Diffusor did on this)
    • Mixed in Auria with Microwarmer, FabFilters Pro-C2, Pro-L (for mastering), Pro Q2, Pro-R

    I finally realized who your vice reminds me of: REM. What a great song. This is a truly brilliant mix and arrangement. All the little transitions just drive it along perfectly. Perfectly. Fabulous stuff..

    wow Rick, thanks for the kind words! I've always liked REM, so that's nice to hear. Funny, another "Rick" made a comment on the track in soundCloud last night likening it to REM, so maybe this track in particular has a little more "Stipe-ish" vibe. Cheers!

  • @nothumanatall said:

    @Shaken&;Stirred said:

    @nothumanatall said:
    Alright, this is the FIRST TIME EVER I'm sharing a track I made. Feels weird.
    I did this a couple of months ago I guess, while trying to study for an exam. I was too stressed and making this was my solution for relaxing. I named it CCS, because I was studying for a cultural and critical studies course (creative, right?). It was kind of my "song of that moment" so I didn't (want to) make a lot of edits. I wanted it to have a jazzy, electronic and folk sound at the same time. Hope you like it, and hope I'll make and share more!

    Hey, welcome! Glad you took the leap. It always "feels weird" to me too, but especially here, sharing creations has always been a very positive experience for me.

    I had the same thoughts as others about the tonalities that seemed like they might be off. I'm not a jazz guy at all, so some of it may be lost on me, but I think including some repeating melody lines that don't require some much focus from the listener to "get" my help engage the listener more. The mix is real good though, and the sounds work well together. Looking forward to what you'll bring in January!

    Hey! Thanks. Good points about the repeating melody lines and also that jazzy stuff. I agree with you, and others, that the keys sound weird at first. I guess I'm just used to it after listening to it over and over. I'm not a jazzy person either but I wanted to play (or mimic) that style while making this track. I like it this way but I definitely understand how it sounds weird. And thanks for the compliment on the mix. Right after I uploaded, it sounded like there was too much reverb on some of the instruments and I'm still not sure. But I guess it kind of works OK because there is not too much going on.

    Also, I was just checking out your track when I got the notification! I couldn't make my mind about the sound of the drum kit used but overall, sounds good! Which synth did you use for the melody starting at 2:14?

    Thanks! That synth you mentioned is Kauldron. Started with the preset "Sacred Mushroom". There is some Turnado at work there, and maybe some other effects as well.

  • edited December 2017

    @Shaken&;Stirred said:

    @moff said:
    I decided to redone one of my old tracks for this month
    Hope you'll enjoy it :)

    wow man, this really kicks butt! very nice work! So much going on, but never feels like too much. Mix of sounds and textures are great - highs, lows, clean, dirt, left-side, right-side, it's all there and done well. I'd say you are a Gadget Master! ;)

    Did not expect to hear such serious compliments dude :blush:

    I'm trying to get away from the monotonous Gadget patterns
    I'm glad to hear that I'm getting a little bit :wink:

    Thank you!

  • @rickwaugh I like the fact this piece is quite accessible and easy to listen to. You establish a melodic theme with the violin and then explore variations on it, but you don't stray so far that it becomes bewildering.

    I think technically the piece is good, lots of melodic invention and variation, what I would like to hear though (as always) is some more emotion - maybe more of a swell or crescendo as the piece evolves because it seems to be stuck in the same place feel-wise from start to end, so I don't get much of a sense of story or journey along the way, aside form the variations in the melody.

    As for the violin sound: there's nothing really wrong with it, but it could maybe do with a little more in the way of dynamics: more of a physical sense of the bow scraping the strings etc... It's perfectly OK really, just lacks a tiny bit of character.

  • @richardyot, yes, there’s the rub, getting that feel into midi acoustic instruments. I’m going to have to mess more with the midi once it’s in Auria. The structure is a standard sonata structure, so follows the norms of statement, variation, etc. There were lots of key changes, but I certainly could have used more tempo/feel changes.

    Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully I haven’t driven folks off of submitting this month, as the don’t want to comment on a classical piece. :D

  • alright guys i am back in town from travels.. i been a little confused... my last entry got mixed reviews. i got a sounds tighter and more on point but its just not what i was expecting it to be feeling from it.. even a request to be more off than on.. ill be back on a track and listening to all your songs ...

  • @rickwaugh said:

    @Shaken&;Stirred said:
    It's great to see all the traffic here in the last couple months! Here's mine for this month...

    • Built in BM3
    • Seekbeats
    • DRC
    • Model 15
    • Kauldron
    • Turnado to shake things up a big (beats and the bridge)
    • Guitar reamped with Gadget's Rosario, (and I really like what Audio Damage's QuatroMod - Diffusor did on this)
    • Mixed in Auria with Microwarmer, FabFilters Pro-C2, Pro-L (for mastering), Pro Q2, Pro-R

    Drips

    VERSE
    Play this game, at your own risk
    Supervision not required
    Bite the old ways, taste a new twist
    Cast Your derision into the fire

    PRE-CHORUS
    Some get stuck on the rules
    Hellbent on payin’ dues
    The sun shines brighter
    For the easy rider

    CHORUS
    Build your own lemonade stand
    Step off the path through Candyland
    Lay your hard earned money down
    Take a sip, embrace the trip

    Which cup hides the magic bean
    Thumbnail rips the tangerine
    Grab it tight, with all your might
    squeeze, squeeze, squeeze until it drip, drip, drips

    VERSE
    Tell me your your poison, I’ll mix it right up
    Escape your prison, free your desires
    Break what’s destroying, I’ll fix it right up
    Click your heels, See what transpires

    I finally realized who your vice reminds me of: REM. What a great song. This is a truly brilliant mix and arrangement. All the little transitions just drive it along perfectly. Perfectly. Fabulous stuff..

    I agree....... +1. ;)

  • @Shaken&;Stirred Hello mate, well I have to say, I think this is a great track. The lyrics are weird and wonderful, great imagery. Well sung! (although maybe the transition, just before the last chorus is just a little bit off?? Not 100% on that..just caught my attention is all.)

    My fave thing though is the mix. It just sounds very pro! Well done on that mate. Everything is crisp and clear and not a bit of mud in sight...in sound? Haha! U know what I’m getting at.

    Great job man.

  • @LostBoy85 said:
    Hello everyone,
    What feels like a million years ago.(actually 2 & a half.) I manned up & posted my first song in this here mighty club! It was called “Time machine ‘85” & although I was quite proud of it at the time,it has become,I guess,the musical equivalent of that photo my mum likes to show of me in the early 80’s wearing a nasty brown jumper,bowl cut,sandals & basically hot pants!!

    For all it’s musical faults, I still loved the melody & the basic lyrical idea so I have rewritten/produced it. :#

    Now it’s still far from perfect, but, I’m definitely much happier with this version & even managed to get my 2 year old on it!

    For anyone whose interested I’m gonna briefly unlock the old version,which can be found buried at the bottom of my Soundcloud page. :D

    All thoughts are welcome & thanks very much for listening. I look forward to chipping in on others creations.

    Cheers
    Leo

    Hey Leo, this track sounds great, it's very polished, your voice is fantastic, the lyrics are well written, and the production is spot on. Radio ready, very nice work!
    I will say, the vibe of the original version is more my style, but the song shines as a ballad as well.

    I do have some constructive (I hope) criticism - stuff to think about, a suggestion I might "throw out there" if we were in the studio and I was producing this...

    I listened to it multiple times over a few days, and something about the hook/chorus didn't feel right.. it wasn't hooking me as it should. The first two lines are great, but the "starting down the sun/every battle won" bit, they way they are dragged out, I think it causes the chorus to lose momentum a bit. So my suggestion would be to leave the first chorus as it is, since the song hasn't picked up yet, but for the second and third choruses, combine the third and fourth lines into one, to keep the momentum up, and then the "those were the days..." would be the fourth line of the chorus.

    Another idea might be to only do that on the 3rd chorus, make it a double chorus, and it would be a bit shorter, and would serve to further etch the hook in the listener's ear. And then maybe omit the bit that starts at 3:32 to keep it under 4 minutes. With this option you might have to move some of River's bits to the break after the second chorus! :)

    Anyway, I hope this provided a tiny bit of useful food for though. Once again, a superb job on this, and I look forward to more from you next month!

  • @LostBoy85 said:
    @Shaken&;Stirred Hello mate, well I have to say, I think this is a great track. The lyrics are weird and wonderful, great imagery. Well sung! (although maybe the transition, just before the last chorus is just a little bit off?? Not 100% on that..just caught my attention is all.)

    My fave thing though is the mix. It just sounds very pro! Well done on that mate. Everything is crisp and clear and not a bit of mud in sight...in sound? Haha! U know what I’m getting at.

    Great job man.

    Thanks Leo, I appreciate the kind words, very nice feedback! I think you're referring to the transition from the bridge to the final double-chorus. Yeah, that was a tough one, maybe I didn't get it quite right. I did one of those reverse delay things -

    • reverse the track
    • print it with delay
    • reverse it back so the repeats precede the vocal
      ...and getting it all lined up was more of a challenge then I expected. :)
      thanks again, cheers!
  • @Shaken&;Stirred Thanks so much buddy for your very useful feedback. I appreciate you taking the time. :)

  • http://tarekith.com/mp3s/Tarekith-Downriver.m4a

    Downriver started as a sketch I was working on using Auxy on my iPhone while wandering solo around Brussels and Amsterdam in 2016. I reworked the core ideas quite a few times in the following months while I travelled, eventually morphing it into a more old-school breakbeat style of track.

    Ultimately I ended up keeping the main drums, bassline, and background melodies almost exactly as they were from the initial Auxy sketches. Those were exported into Ableton Live 10, where I added some background pads and distorted chords from my DSI OB-6 and Ableton’s Wavetable synth. Some additional percussion samples were added from my sample library to round out the rhythmic elements. The guitar is my Taylor 814ce acoustic being processed by a TC Electronic Hall of Fame Reverb, as well as Ableton’s Echo and Pedal devices. Final volume and dynamics control was done with DMG’s Limitless.

    Hope you enjoy,
    Tarekith
    http://tarekith.com

  • edited December 2017

    @rickwaugh said:
    I of course also was not sure about subjecting folks to 6 minutes of one my classical compositions. B) But dammit, I'm pretty darn happy with this piece of music, so subject you to it I will. It's nothing crazy, not wandering off into the far reaches of listenable music. Anyhow, any and all comments welcome. Thoughts on the violin sound would be great, as I've pretty much lost all objectivity on it.

    I liked the composition, but yeah that violin sound was a bit flat for me. There's not much going on in terms of articulations, so it felt a little one dimensional to me.

  • @nothumanatall said:
    Alright, this is the FIRST TIME EVER I'm sharing a track I made.

    Not bad at all for your first song! I wasn't really getting the folk aspect that much, but nice groovey jazz vibes for sure.

  • @studs1966 said:
    As it's Christmas just around the corner......... But a Disco one!...... Enjoy!..... :)

    Happy times! The vocal feels a but loud for me in places, but that's par for the course for disco I think.

  • @moff said:
    I decided to redone one of my old tracks for this month
    Hope you'll enjoy it :)

    This was has a nice psychedelic vibe to it, especially with the lead synths. The low end felt a bit light to me though, not much thump going on with the drums or bass.

  • @Shaken&;Stirred said:
    It's great to see all the traffic here in the last couple months! Here's mine for this month...

    Cool, sort of a new wave and punk vibe to this one. The main vocal was really loud for me personally, would have liked to hear it a little further back in the mix.

  • @Tarekith said:

    @Shaken&;Stirred said:
    It's great to see all the traffic here in the last couple months! Here's mine for this month...

    Cool, sort of a new wave and punk vibe to this one. The main vocal was really loud for me personally, would have liked to hear it a little further back in the mix.

    Thanks Erik, I appreciate the feedback. Yeah, lead vocal levels are hard to get right, when you, as the mixing engineer, are also the "talent" (a term I use loosely) :) I often import one or two reference tracks into Auria, for comparison against the my final mix, to help get it right, but still not always successful. thanks again.

  • @Tarekith said:

    @nothumanatall said:
    Alright, this is the FIRST TIME EVER I'm sharing a track I made.

    Not bad at all for your first song! I wasn't really getting the folk aspect that much, but nice groovey jazz vibes for sure.

    Thanks for the feedback.

    @Tarekith said:

    http://tarekith.com/mp3s/Tarekith-Downriver.m4a

    Downriver started as a sketch I was working on using Auxy on my iPhone while wandering solo around Brussels and Amsterdam in 2016. I reworked the core ideas quite a few times in the following months while I travelled, eventually morphing it into a more old-school breakbeat style of track.

    Ultimately I ended up keeping the main drums, bassline, and background melodies almost exactly as they were from the initial Auxy sketches. Those were exported into Ableton Live 10, where I added some background pads and distorted chords from my DSI OB-6 and Ableton’s Wavetable synth. Some additional percussion samples were added from my sample library to round out the rhythmic elements. The guitar is my Taylor 814ce acoustic being processed by a TC Electronic Hall of Fame Reverb, as well as Ableton’s Echo and Pedal devices. Final volume and dynamics control was done with DMG’s Limitless.

    Hope you enjoy,
    Tarekith
    http://tarekith.com

    I love this. Everything sounds really good, especially the percussion stuff and the guitar. Acoustic guitar adds a lot, and it sounds almost like a santur. Did you record it with a piezo or a mic?

  • Piezo, I always use that for recording since it’s so convenient.

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