Impc Pro 2 (bundle is live)

kobamoto

oh seriously??? forget that then.

stormbeats

@mireko_2 said:

@telecharge said:

@Samu said:
That's true, only 'feature' I'm missing on iOS is 'Spotify Sampling' and if iMPC Pro 2 'nails' that I'll be happy

I love to learn more about how to use it legally, if you know anything.

I really wouldn't worry unless your releasing your music on iTunes and Spotify, and if you are you can contact agencies that can clear your samples for you

i agree after all this is hiphop there are no rules - Rebel music !!!!!! yo @samu - it's Beatmakerstorm from the Beatmaker forum -

kobamoto

I've spent a super-Grip on iPads and apps, I'm not jumping through the hoops anymore, its just unnecessary

JohnnyGoodyear

@mireko_2 said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@Littlewoodg said:

I appreciate your notes, and good to hear from Busta. Question: are you, and @JohnnyGoodyear (and those other that've also made the move) finding that saving audio samples and clips to ACP 4 (as the only option) is as messed up as that sounds on paper?

Or is that not the only in-app save location? In the other two iMPCs there is a location under “my sounds” called “ITunes File Transfer” which is not only the the file accessed when opening the app in iTunes, but also the in-app repository for clip saving and loading to pads....

Can't decide if its poorly designed or poorly implemented. But for something that should (surely) be so simple it's feels FUBAR (as regards wanting to simply paste a sample from, say, AS). So, it seems that the method of getting ACP IN is to 'open in' to the AudioCopy app (iMPC doesn't show up as an option in AS) and then once you've done that you can go back to iMPC2 and use 'audiopaste' which then shows you an AS folder where you can pick your sample from...not, erm, ideal. No doubt will get better the more familiar one is to fiddling about with it, but Mister Besos says he'd really prefer buy with one click.....

Have to say that other methods, stealing from Spotify and recording from IAA and chopping, are creamy. Microphone works wells too....

Ok that just killed it for me. Why are retronyms so stuck on forcing their ac4 on us.
If you provide quality content from your ac4 store people will still buy.
It is so pig headed to force every user to jump through hoops everytime they want to bring a sample in from AudioShare just in the hope that forcing that workflow might increase ac4 IAP of sound packs. Greasy stuff #retronyms

Could be that am I missing something obvious (wouldn't be the first time), but hard to know without any obvious resources to refer to. Perhaps there are technical reasons for them wanting/needing to go by way of AC, but it smells of a 'well, that's no problem, easypeasy, folks will just go click click click', and maybe they will, maybe I will, but if I were the benign dictator I wouldn't have approved going that way. But, hell, if I was the benign dictator I'd also have endless dollars to throw at them. I'm of the persuasion to not presume they are being malevolent here. Just choices made. I'm going to make a pot of pretend coffee and go back and spend an hour just hacking stuff up and bringing it in and then see how my process smooths out Nurse.....

stormywaterz

@kobamoto said:
that lesson a day stuff is ridiculous.... for Petes sake stop the marketing at some point, at least when the app is out and get on with the cleanup!

Trying to learn the app and it takes weeks for them to teach you. Smart

I was using AudioCopy for samples. Has some good stuff in there. Be nice if they played well with others

ruggedsmooth

Should we start placing bets on when the bundle gets approved?

JohnnyGoodyear

@stormywaterz said:

@kobamoto said:
that lesson a day stuff is ridiculous.... for Petes sake stop the marketing at some point, at least when the app is out and get on with the cleanup!

Trying to learn the app and it takes weeks for them to teach you. Smart

I was using AudioCopy for samples. Has some good stuff in there. Be nice if they played well with others

For all the talk of importing, I'm actually more puzzled by the exporting....I'm sure lots of their target demographic are happy with the big buttons for YT and SC, but for those who see this more as a stem machine (or, more simply, want to mix/master/fiddle elsewhere) it's not so obvious beyond copying a mixdown to AC...not even sure if you can export a midi file from a track at this point. Hope so.

JohnnyGoodyear

Follow up: OK. An hour importing via AC and I realize that the problem I've been having is habit. I use AudioShare it is my hub for all samples, little bits export, I'm comfortable with it, I have a thousand things IN it. BUT once I stopped thinking of AS having to be a stepping stone and, essentially, AC being the AS for iMPC Pro2 then all went fine, far faster etc. The issue though, of course, beyond habit is that AS is just a better bit of software than AC, so it still rankles. BUT not a dealbreaker (for me) once I got used to the process and also realized that I'm (personally) not going to be bringing the majority of my noise in this way. And that bringing in, say, loops from BLOCS was a breeze.

What I should add, strenuously say etc., is that I worked it pretty well/hard for an hour, had a bunch of audio unit tracks, two samples/drum tracks and also recorded some mike in and I didn't have a single crash. Pretty good. AND I'm half way to having a James Bond theme song that is well done but rubbish (entirely my fault). I'm going to get use out of this thing.

Not holding out hope but it would be a real bonus if it were also TableTop ready.

[Deleted User]

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Follow up: OK. An hour importing via AC and I realize that the problem I've been having is habit. I use AudioShare it is my hub for all samples, little bits export, I'm comfortable with it, I have a thousand things IN it. BUT once I stopped thinking of AS having to be a stepping stone and, essentially, AC being the AS for iMPC Pro2 then all went fine, far faster etc. The issue though, of course, beyond habit is that AS is just a better bit of software than AC, so it still rankles. BUT not a dealbreaker (for me) once I got used to the process and also realized that I'm (personally) not going to be bringing the majority of my noise in this way. And that bringing in, say, loops from BLOCS was a breeze.

What I should add, strenuously say etc., is that I worked it pretty well/hard for an hour, had a bunch of audio unit tracks, two samples/drum tracks and also recorded some mike in and I didn't have a single crash. Pretty good. AND I'm half way to having a James Bond theme song that is well done but rubbish (entirely my fault). I'm going to get use out of this thing.

Not holding out hope but it would be a real bonus if it were also TableTop ready.

How are you finding this, compared to BM3 Boss?

I cant remember what I paid for this, twenty quid I think which should make the upgrade cheap. But it’s been off my pad longer than on it, and I’d rather put the legwork into BM3 which doesn’t force me to use AS and works with AB. Though obviously the UI in that one is akin to spaghetti, but from reading your reports in this thread, this boy ain’t much better...but if it is...

u0421793

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
… hoping to find a girl but ending up holing a melon …

I’ve heard about that method, I expect the trick is in getting the girth correct.

skoptic

@stormbeats said:
@retronyms I start off by saying I do like the new iMPC PRO2 -
just my thoughts iMPC PRO 1&2 Major gripe for me is the envelope ADSR section - needs vast improvement - Why no short release time or delay enveloping when triggering pads in "one shot" mode This has baffled me since the impc pro V1 - take a look at bm3 has proper rotary controls for attack/decay/sustain/release.very cruciaL when shaping drums.
iMPC PRO2 is being advertised as an Audio Unit host - maybe make it clear that it's AU INSTRUMENTS only - really hope they implement Auv3 for effects too as bm3 has making it very powerful

Thank you for posting this, the AU part specifically should not be found out ‘in the fine print’ .... I’ll be sticking with BM3, thanks.

stormbeats

@skoptic said:

@stormbeats said:
@retronyms I start off by saying I do like the new iMPC PRO2 -
just my thoughts iMPC PRO 1&2 Major gripe for me is the envelope ADSR section - needs vast improvement - Why no short release time or delay enveloping when triggering pads in "one shot" mode This has baffled me since the impc pro V1 - take a look at bm3 has proper rotary controls for attack/decay/sustain/release.very cruciaL when shaping drums.
iMPC PRO2 is being advertised as an Audio Unit host - maybe make it clear that it's AU INSTRUMENTS only - really hope they implement Auv3 for effects too as bm3 has making it very powerful

Thank you for posting this, the AU part specifically should not be found out ‘in the fine print’ .... I’ll be sticking with BM3, thanks.

cool - yep advertised as FULL AU compatible ...it is not .

stormbeats

@kobamoto said:
thanks JG, .. talking about the delete not working while holding down erase + pad while the sequencer is in play mode or in record mode?

it works on my ipad air2 ios11 not tested onmy ipad pro yet - it better work .

Samu

Still no bundle to be found anywhere?!
(I'm in Sweden so it might the Swedish app-store that is lagging or?).

Munibeast

I think Apple don’t work much on the weekends. I’d expect the bundle to drop on Monday. But I decided I’m not in a hurry for this one. Might as well learn my BM3 first.

Jumpercollins

Nothing in UK either. Prob next week now. Soda DJ had that bundle issue which took a few days to sort last week..

[Deleted User]

@Jumpercollins said:
Nothing in UK either. Prob next week now. Soda DJ had that bundle issue which took a few days to sort last week..

This. People should have a bit more patience with devs when it’s Apple fault to miss guiding even devs...

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u0421793

@tja said:
I have Auria Pro, Cubasis, BeatMaker 3, BeatHawk, Gadget and some more which I do not use like GarageBand, Audio Evolution Mobile, Caustic and Groovebox.

Please tell me, do I need iMPC Pro?
What can it do that the others cannot?

It’s got a good logo.

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Munibeast

@tja said:
I have Auria Pro, Cubasis, BeatMaker 3, BeatHawk, Gadget and some more which I do not use like GarageBand, Audio Evolution Mobile, Caustic and Groovebox.

Please tell me, do I need iMPC Pro?
What can it do that the others cannot?

Same here. From what I gathered Spotify sampling and the 4 sample packs seem to be what this would add that the others don’t have.
Maybe an easier workflow than BM3 too.
I’ll wait for some more demos and reviews to make a decision.

ExAsperis99

@tja said:
I have Auria Pro, Cubasis, BeatMaker 3, BeatHawk, Gadget and some more which I do not use like GarageBand, Audio Evolution Mobile, Caustic and Groovebox.

Please tell me, do I need iMPC Pro?
What can it do that the others cannot?

Are any of them perfect? Why, if you have Auria, would you need anything else? I mean, I know my answer: It’s not perfect. I always liked the iMPC workflow. Slicing a sample to pads works better (for me) than any app I have tried. BM3 is powerful but for some reason has built its features in the middle of a labyrinth. I have my fingers crossed for this.

And here’s some heresy: Maybe the Audioshare update is good. I glanced at the audio editor — it seems to be pretty full-featured.

Telengard

@Munibeast said:

@tja said:
I have Auria Pro, Cubasis, BeatMaker 3, BeatHawk, Gadget and some more which I do not use like GarageBand, Audio Evolution Mobile, Caustic and Groovebox.

Please tell me, do I need iMPC Pro?
What can it do that the others cannot?

Same here. From what I gathered Spotify sampling and the 4 sample packs seem to be what this would add that the others don’t have.
Maybe an easier workflow than BM3 too.
I’ll wait for some more demos and reviews to make a decision.

Has it been confirmed that you can sample from Spotify? djay 2 has Spotify, but doesn't allow you to sample from it only your local music and mic. It comes up and tells you specifically that you can't sample from Spotify when you try to.

jcdream

@tja said:
I have Auria Pro, Cubasis, BeatMaker 3, BeatHawk, Gadget and some more which I do not use like GarageBand, Audio Evolution Mobile, Caustic and Groovebox.

Please tell me, do I need iMPC Pro?
What can it do that the others cannot?

I’ve these apps ,too. And I want know what different between iMac pro2 and others.

JohnnyGoodyear

@Telengard said:

@Munibeast said:

@tja said:
I have Auria Pro, Cubasis, BeatMaker 3, BeatHawk, Gadget and some more which I do not use like GarageBand, Audio Evolution Mobile, Caustic and Groovebox.

Please tell me, do I need iMPC Pro?
What can it do that the others cannot?

Same here. From what I gathered Spotify sampling and the 4 sample packs seem to be what this would add that the others don’t have.
Maybe an easier workflow than BM3 too.
I’ll wait for some more demos and reviews to make a decision.

Has it been confirmed that you can sample from Spotify? djay 2 has Spotify, but doesn't allow you to sample from it only your local music and mic. It comes up and tells you specifically that you can't sample from Spotify when you try to.

Have done with no problems. Caveat would be that I DO NOT have a paid Spotify account, in fact only signed up for it to test this, but have no problems recording stuff (from the 30 secs they give you). I'm sure the pro samplers would have some things they'd like to add/see but I find the chopping, editing etc and then the time fixing concept as well, far easier than most other things. I know that might be heresy to the accomplished BM3 user, but I have yet to find myself to be that...

JohnnyGoodyear

@ExAsperis99 said:

@tja said:
I have Auria Pro, Cubasis, BeatMaker 3, BeatHawk, Gadget and some more which I do not use like GarageBand, Audio Evolution Mobile, Caustic and Groovebox.

Please tell me, do I need iMPC Pro?
What can it do that the others cannot?

Are any of them perfect? Why, if you have Auria, would you need anything else? I mean, I know my answer: It’s not perfect. I always liked the iMPC workflow. Slicing a sample to pads works better (for me) than any app I have tried. BM3 is powerful but for some reason has built its features in the middle of a labyrinth. I have my fingers crossed for this.

And here’s some heresy: Maybe the Audioshare update is good. I glanced at the audio editor — it seems to be pretty full-featured.

Exactly. I feel I am the kid telling the Tour de Francers that I quite like this trike because I can actually get the whole way round the block on it, but there it is.

NTKK

Does it have midi out?

JohnnyGoodyear

@MonzoPro said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Follow up: OK. An hour importing via AC and I realize that the problem I've been having is habit. I use AudioShare it is my hub for all samples, little bits export, I'm comfortable with it, I have a thousand things IN it. BUT once I stopped thinking of AS having to be a stepping stone and, essentially, AC being the AS for iMPC Pro2 then all went fine, far faster etc. The issue though, of course, beyond habit is that AS is just a better bit of software than AC, so it still rankles. BUT not a dealbreaker (for me) once I got used to the process and also realized that I'm (personally) not going to be bringing the majority of my noise in this way. And that bringing in, say, loops from BLOCS was a breeze.

What I should add, strenuously say etc., is that I worked it pretty well/hard for an hour, had a bunch of audio unit tracks, two samples/drum tracks and also recorded some mike in and I didn't have a single crash. Pretty good. AND I'm half way to having a James Bond theme song that is well done but rubbish (entirely my fault). I'm going to get use out of this thing.

Not holding out hope but it would be a real bonus if it were also TableTop ready.

How are you finding this, compared to BM3 Boss?

I cant remember what I paid for this, twenty quid I think which should make the upgrade cheap. But it’s been off my pad longer than on it, and I’d rather put the legwork into BM3 which doesn’t force me to use AS and works with AB. Though obviously the UI in that one is akin to spaghetti, but from reading your reports in this thread, this boy ain’t much better...but if it is...

BM3 is deeper no doubt, but I made a tune I could understand last night and was in control of my material (my little vision, however short-sighted it was) and it feels like the whole 'the best camera is the one you have with you' thing. If you have the head and time to figure out/exploit/profit from BM3 then that's what you (or I or anyone) should do, but the way I (currently) work this is going to get me to where I want to go far more reliably/quickly/intuitively. It's also the kind of setup -I believe- that now I've sussed it (which took an hour) I will be able to come back to in a month and start using right away rather than going back to beginning again with. THIS is a big deal (for me). So, horses for courses, no rights or wrongs. As ever; know thyself etc.

gusgranite

How’s the slice to transients in IMPC Pro 2?

[Deleted User]

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Follow up: OK. An hour importing via AC and I realize that the problem I've been having is habit. I use AudioShare it is my hub for all samples, little bits export, I'm comfortable with it, I have a thousand things IN it. BUT once I stopped thinking of AS having to be a stepping stone and, essentially, AC being the AS for iMPC Pro2 then all went fine, far faster etc. The issue though, of course, beyond habit is that AS is just a better bit of software than AC, so it still rankles. BUT not a dealbreaker (for me) once I got used to the process and also realized that I'm (personally) not going to be bringing the majority of my noise in this way. And that bringing in, say, loops from BLOCS was a breeze.

What I should add, strenuously say etc., is that I worked it pretty well/hard for an hour, had a bunch of audio unit tracks, two samples/drum tracks and also recorded some mike in and I didn't have a single crash. Pretty good. AND I'm half way to having a James Bond theme song that is well done but rubbish (entirely my fault). I'm going to get use out of this thing.

Not holding out hope but it would be a real bonus if it were also TableTop ready.

How are you finding this, compared to BM3 Boss?

I cant remember what I paid for this, twenty quid I think which should make the upgrade cheap. But it’s been off my pad longer than on it, and I’d rather put the legwork into BM3 which doesn’t force me to use AS and works with AB. Though obviously the UI in that one is akin to spaghetti, but from reading your reports in this thread, this boy ain’t much better...but if it is...

BM3 is deeper no doubt, but I made a tune I could understand last night and was in control of my material (my little vision, however short-sighted it was) and it feels like the whole 'the best camera is the one you have with you' thing. If you have the head and time to figure out/exploit/profit from BM3 then that's what you (or I or anyone) should do, but the way I (currently) work this is going to get me to where I want to go far more reliably/quickly/intuitively. It's also the kind of setup -I believe- that now I've sussed it (which took an hour) I will be able to come back to in a month and start using right away rather than going back to beginning again with. THIS is a big deal (for me). So, horses for courses, no rights or wrongs. As ever; know thyself etc.

Sounds very familiar to be honest. I get that BM3 could be 'the one' for me - the one thing that could tie all my IAA/AU/wacky sample/live guitar and tuneless voice/Maschine pieces together and get them organised, but every time I come back to it I have to spend several hours remembering where everything is, by which time I'm being yelled at to fix the shed or something. I haven't given up, I'll have another go tonight most likely. Just had a quick play with iMPCPro 1 - and it clicked straight away, despite not using it for a year, so if the 'bundle' price is cheap enough I might give the new one a whirl.

I sent a message to one of the geezers in my last band earlier. Haven't heard anything from them, or what they've been up to recently so wondered how it was going. Then I thought 'what if he asks me what I've recorded recently'? And came to the realisation I've spent the last few months 'mucking about' and haven't finished anything of note.

Time to knuckle down and get productive, so I need to settle on one of these buggers and get on with it. Maybe a more stright forward UI is the way to go...