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I wasn’t that long ago that Samsung phones were catching fire in Airplanes, but it sure feels like a distant memory.
What? How does that logic work? If you’ve bought an iPhone, you’ve obviously got no money left, for food, housing, internet, clothes, etc. It all went on the iPhone.
There are loads of Lithium Ion rechargeables in the local shops. For cameras. Cameras don’t do this, they let you change batteries freely.
Why didn’t they tell customers about this? Because if they did, those of us who don’t change our iphones every year will think twice about getting another one.
Are they doing it for customer safety? Are they bollocks. If that was the case they could flash one of their warning panels up, and direct users to the settings screen where we could choose to run or install a ‘lite’ version of the iOS, which would take pressure off older batteries without compromising speed. Also useful for those with good batteries but older devices, crippled by the iOS updates.
Crippling the speed is ham fisted, and simply forces customers to upgrade.
Not good for the brand, this one.
Actually, this raises an important point. The expense of iPads means that it is only possible to afford secondhand ones, and if this scheme is in play on iPads also, it means it is no longer worth buying a secondhand iPad every ten years or so (which is about how long they look like lasting – my iPad 2 is still an iPad 2, still gives a long usage on a charge). Instead of buying a secondhand iPad in future, it’ll probably be worth looking elsewhere, like android (the devices don’t seem to be as long lasting, and the cheaper chinese ones have atrocious battery management). More likely, though, I think raspberry pi will be the future of affordable music making - a Bluetooth keyboard, a RPi official touchscreen, an RPi 3 itself, a hefty USB charging battery pack, and perhaps a DAC (which I don’t have). All running Sunvox or similar (annoyingly, Sonic Pi doesn’t work on the Raspberry Pi itself, when running on the RPi official touchscreen — all you see is the top left corner of a bright and gaily coloured yet meaningless rectangle). I think a raspberry pi built up to be portable and touch-operated is the way to go.
This.> @MonzoPro said:
And this.
Older devices may not be able to run the latest apps well or at all, but that shouldn't make them unusable, unless someone makes them...
There’s a whole bunch of stuff in iOS updates that is inappropriate for older devices. Devices with lower screen res and graphics cards are wasting power running graphics designed for new devices with higher ones. Support for Apple Pencil. Etc. Etc.
Strip out the unnecessary crap, and ensure core functionality is streamlined and optimised for older devices.
Anything else is bad coding.
please direct me to a AAA or 9V Block
(I know about the cam stuff)
Apple have said it will be happening with other devices too
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42438745
This doesn’t bother me as much, it only happens when the battery starts getting really old as I understand it. Replace it and thing go back to full performance (granted...replacing the battery it not the easiest thing but it’s far from being an impossible task). Also no confirmation that it happens on iPad models.
Pretty sure planned obsolescence is present in all manner of products throughout our lives. I mean it's great they can cite all these cute reasons that make sense and they probably do at a certain level but the bottom line is do you actually expect companies to make money by constantly innovating and developing brand new products that will last a lifetime? Can't remember which brand, but a washing machine company decided at one point to just go ahead and make an awesome product that would last forever. They nearly went out of business and had to go back to making an ok product that would get fucked up every now and then requiring repairs and/or replacement
No, but if a device is only good for 500 charges before being crippled and needing upgrades, then I don't expect it to cost £1000+ as the top end phones and iPads currently do. If it does I'd expect it to be either:
a. Cheap
or b. (easily) user upgradable.
Realising my £475 Air 2 is nearly three years old, makes me ok about the battery now playing up. Same with my SE, which only cost £375 and should last a couple of years. But if I'd bought an iPad Pro 12" package for over £1000 and it started playing up after a year or two then I would consider that crap value for money, particularly considering some Pro's have been blighted with audio issues already.
Washing machine's - my last one lasted 18 years, cost £299 and the new one cost about 400 quid.
Apple should either cut the cost of their products to reflect the new revelations on device lifespan, and/or design them so new batteries should be easy to fit - after all you can buy a new one for £20. Open a panel, slot it in, done.
And they should provide an alternative Lite iOS so older devices can be run without loss of performance, or batteries heating up until they explode.
And as a bonus we create less toxic waste and the whole planet benefits, rather than just a bunch of greedy shareholders.
@MonzoPro sounds good to me
For me, the issue is that Apple didn’t let its customers know about the issue and took unilateral action to address the issue without providing any information even after there was lots of speculation in the media and online that they were slowing down older phones.
Not being able to roll back the iPad 2 to the earlier iOS or to have a variation of iOS so basic functionality could be restored was much more concerning to me. I rely upon other users to test the waters to see if it is safe to upgrade rather than being able to count on Apple to provide accurate information about what to expect.
It’s one thing to have issues related to batteries aging or older devices which can’t run well on a newer iOS, but it’s how you address or fail to do so with the public which concerns me and erodes trust.
The way things are going Apple will PUSH prices even more, but will offer some 'affordable' stuff, which will again cost more than their competitors. I think they will only start thinking about the end user if they start losing money, like, big time because of this or any other policy that doesn't make much sense other then them making some massive profit. The problem is, I invested tons of money in apps, so I'm stuck with them, and I do hope they address this issue in a more consumer friendly, less dictatorial way.
+1
Depends if the massive profits, coupled with price hikes and other issues damage the way the brand is perceived. If so, they will fall from grace very quickly.
I've invested a ton in apps too, but over the years they drop away - unsupported, buggy, removed from the Store, better new options available etc. If I lose faith in Apple then I won't buy the expensive kit any more, I'll stick with cheap as chips refurbs, and the apps I already have and concentrate on desktop stuff. I've been doing that a lot this year already. Customers will adapt and move on if they feel they're getting a bum deal.
I was talking to someone who runs a very large landfill operation, multiple landfills in multiple locations. He says not only are they explosive, they can burn without open air. They have had fires started from lithium batteries buried several feet deep, then burning their way to the top.
The entire way Apple runs their line is coming back to bite them, and will continue to bite them. Most folks really don’t need a faster CPU to use their phone, text, read facebook, browse the web. They are slowly figuring it out, that they don’t have to spend a grand every year on a new phone. There’s an excellent chance ever more people will slowly migrate to Android phones, the cheaper ones. If you could buy a cheap phone that doesn’t have all the additional crap Samsung and others include, that could do the basics, and possibly allow for upgrades, (or just be cheap enough to not care,) and people were not so intent on Apple as a statement of fashion, that cheap phone could gut the market. Actually wouldn’t be surprised if it was already there.
That being said, Android does not have a way to change out the battery, at least, I’ve never seen one. They do allow you to add the internal storage card.
Yeah, the thing is, the cheapest iPad released in 2018 will be faster than Air2 and Pro 9.7, most probably, so...invest wisely
True, people who said that there device has slowed down, in forums had to suffer the storm for stating the point, while Apple all along knew the effing truth. Shame on Apple.
I think the AR stuff will keep things pushing for a while. Snapchat / IG stories with more and more realistic real-time Augmented Reality are high in demand. Similar to gaming demands on PC years ago this will keep the the silicon industry going...then audio apps get the spoils in terms of high and higher performing systems at a relatively reasonable cost. There was a time when a basic good sounding reverb couldn’t even run on Intel.
This!
You may remember the exchange program for iPhone 6s last year. Exchange programs like this are very expensive for Apple. If i were Apple i may have the great idea to do some CPU throttling in case of a too fast degeneration of the iPhone battery.
Just saying.
Maybe car manufacturers could slow your vehicle down, to stop your tyres from being worn.
Maybe the other way round: If your tyres are very worn, they slow down your cars for safety reasons.
To avoid bloated batteries it is (!) a quite good idea to do some CPU throttling in case of a battery with 80 percent remaining capacity.
As far as i know the degeneration speeds up when your battery is below 80 percent capacity, and gets very, very fast when your battery is below 40 percent capacity. Additionally the battery life improves when the CPU gets throttled.
For iPhones having batteries below 80 percent this could be an important issue.
(oh, and i am quite sure you dont want to see your home burning because of an iPhone)
I don't know the reasons of Apple. But maybe these are aspects that count for them.
Transparency doesn't count for them, regardless of their reasons.
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