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Or they could ensure their iOS doesn’t hammer their devices, and/or batteries are of a higher quality that they last longer than 500 charges.
My line in the sand is up to about £250 per year for a device. I can’t afford more, so it means I can’t go over £500 for a device if it’s only good for two years.
I’m guessing with the public tightening belts due to less money to spend either Aple drop the price, fix their products, or lose sales.
Dude, it doesn't work like this. How come this isn't the problem for Android phones? Apple can code this in a different way, but what you are missing here is their main concern: selling new products. And doing it this way is unethical, in my opinion.
Well, business as usual. What can we do? The market is almost monopolised.
Another disturbing fact is the silence from inside Apple, no one dared to speak out about this, that just hints at the work ethic that must be in place at Apple. Sad and scary.
Yes, I remember it - it was a massive problem on my wife's phone, in particular. It would shut down routinely at about 33%, or sometimes even earlier. It was a problem that THEY created with a firmware update, and then designed a workaround for with another firmware update.
Phones that are only 8-15 months old shouldn't shut themselves off automatically. If the "best" solution to that problem is to put in a firmware timebomb that renders devices increasingly useless before they turn 2 years old, then they need to go back to the drawing board. But they definitely don't get to hide behind a "public safety" argument for slowing down your phone. If I could go back to iOS10 or whatever version on my 6s that doesn't slow itself down to oblivion, I would do that yesterday. Apple doesn't allow me to do that, even though I have a "dated" device. I think it's fair to ask why.
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I use a Mophie charger/case with my Iphone 6. It is like having 2 spare batteries with me all the time. They are quite reasonable onEbay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-mophie-Juice-Pack-Air-Battery-Case-For-Apple-iPhone-5-5S-5SE/282149696086?epid=1415119231&hash=item41b16eb256:m:myqM7_-JwPDgtuqi138f4Ww
All points to the contrary, apple it’s selling more phones than ever at the most expensive price they’ve ever been. If people can afford a $1000 phone they will buy a $1000 phone and there are lots of people who can. Cheap phones are for people that can’t afford a premium or mid-range device and therefore are worthless to the ecosystem they’re joining because they won’t buy any apps, suscribe/use any services, buy other devices in the ecosystem like a smart watch or a tablet, buy media...
Being a cheap device also means they won’t get the newest features and probably no updates at all as the profit the company makes selling devices like these it’s none, even for data collection (the only reasonable value google could see in cheap android) are kinda pointless when the can’t even get the newest features the data serves as feedback.
The only other customer purchasing cheap android it’s people that doesn’t care about tech, basically using their smartphones as feature phones, and also doesn’t matter to the big picture.
Premium android and iOS are the future. And will probably get even more expensive.
Okay let’s proceed with Battery-gate then.
This is all over the news now...
i had a iphone charger blow up in my face at work, was using a workmates iphone charger and went to grab my phone on my lunch break. the charger literally exploded. small pieces of metal flew past my face and all that was left of the charger was the prongs in the power point. scary af. everyone came running because the explosion sounded like a gunshot. there was a large black burn mark on the wall around the powerpoint. think it was a cheap 3rd party charger from ebay, but looked like a legit apple charger
I actually had the battery in mind, but as you say... chargers can be dangerous, too.
Though your accident may have been just bad luck.
A capacitor inside the device blew up, and developed enough gas to break the housing.
Likely by a spark that lit the gas inside it. Indeed frightening...
If you write negative about Apple you don't get exclusives and you won't be invited to product launches. In other words you can forget it.
Hear hear
WTF. If I paid $800 for a music device I expect it to continue working a few years later. There really needs to be a OS based around serious music creation the way apple used to. Something stable that is for professional musicians and not just a candy crush/Facebook station that they keep needlessly updating but not fixing anything and fucking customers in the process
I'd rather get a notification that my battery is failing than have Apple secretly throttle my CPU.
Apple being sued over slowing down older iPhones
Well as mentioned before the throttling is essential since your iPhone would shutdown without notice several times per day...
BUT , you are correct about the notification. If someone paid the 3 years extended warranty then the device should be replaced,since it's not working as expected.
I will not be surprised if Apple will be obliged replacing those devices .( covered with warranty)
And those without AppleCare too. From their own website:
“Under consumer laws in the UK, consumers are entitled to a free of charge repair or replacement, discount or refund by the seller, of defective goods or goods which do not conform with the contract of sale. For goods purchased in England or Wales, these rights expire six years from delivery of the goods and for goods purchased in Scotland, these rights expire five years from delivery of the goods.”
I don’t think batteries following the laws of physics would count as a defect under consumer legislation
I guess that depends whether customers have been told batteries have an optimum lifespan of 500 charges at the point of sale, and whether that’s an acceptable level of performance.
I’ll guess we’ll soon find out.
good news
Yes, I'm specifically talking about the situation where the OS recognizes the battery is failing, and has been programmed to compensate by throttling for that reason, instead of notifying the owner that the battery is failing.
That is "the issue".
(...)If the decision to throttle performance is meant for the benefit of consumers, then why not just say that in a change log?
Oh, this is easy to explain. Some people say, it's because Apple is used to act intransparent in general. I think there is a different, really simple explanation for it:
"Honesty"
Yes! This is one of the four big ethical values of Apple. When they don't give any hint or explanation in a change log, this is done (non done...) because they strictly want to be honest. With other words, they have to lie if they speak openly about it...
@BiancaNeve
You are right. Apple guaranties 80 percent remaining capacity/battery life after 500 cycles. I think this is fair. In most cases an iPhone accepts 1000 cycles, some devices even 2000 before the batteries are defective.
(other companies don't guarantee anything here)
Maybe Apple introduce a new "feature" with iOS 12. After you charged 500 times (with messages on the last 10 loading times that you need to buy a new device) your iPhone/iPad it will shut down and you can´t use it anymore because you are a stupid customer and Apple cares about you. Apple just want to save you from all the difficult choices you could waste time on your self. They know what´s best for you. Trust them, they really are good guys and just want the best for you.
Maybe it should automatically buy a new device for you as soon as 80% is reached — using the Apple Pay you’d have already set up.
Better at 50% to be sure
Heck, why not go all the way and have an Apple hardware subscription? They’ll automatically send you a new iPhone every 2 years, new iPad every 3 years and new Mac every 4 years. And you won’t ever have to wait in line!
(...) instead of notifying the owner that the battery is failing.
Sorry, it isn't. Look into settings->battery. When your iPhone battery is depleted (capacity below 80 percent) you will get a message that informs you. This is true for iOS >10.2.1.
The app which is written here in the comments ("battery life") and a call with apple care would inform you, too.
Maybe it is a good idea just to use the options you have.
Plain wrong. I know that your text is ironic, but i don't think it is justified to make a drama (or speculate about a coming drama) when there is no drama at all.
I have clearly written that most of iPhone and iPad batteries will work fine for much more than 500 complete cycles (not: "charging"), a bit depending on your usage style.
Even my iPhone 4s (5 years old and very intense usage) has a fine and fit battery.