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Along the lines of that was in the original design. You never know of course but its not one to bank on.
not happy to hear that.. , sample locks wasn't there either, I wonder if it that was in the original design and they just didn't get it in the release, but man if it's an original design issue etc.. there are going to be allot of unhappy folks in the request thread over there at elektronauts, most of them think there's a lot more little things that can be added..... elektron should shut it down and not get peoples hopes up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=243&v=11YQKoGUM-M
might sound crazy but I really think if all of these beat machines stay on their current trajectories that 2 years from now it will be down to the akai Force Vs. whatever Elektron has coming that will house the Model Samples workflow.... Akai is going to have to come out with a smaller version of the same thing they've got but their updates are on point and track to be phenomenal... same thing with the new direction Electron are going with the model samples, when they put out the next flagship unit it will undoubtedly be a force to be reckoned with. ..
Workflow /feature Ratio wise I don't think there is anything that can touch these two on the horizon imho.... I also think that competitors will have to bring out instruments that more directly challenge the direction the Force and the Model Samples are going if they are going to really have a chance to compete imho.
Different people have different workflows, there's still enough of them that prefer other boxes or "just a laptop" with e.g. Ableton Live and a few creative Max devices, so I wonder how many companies would try to compete.
Edit: Watching the Force Live Looping video made me learn how good BeatMaker 3 actually is for this kind of stuff
that goes without saying, but I'm talking about competing workflows for example, if you are looking for the Force, then only ableton push is better and nothing else is in the same vein... the Force is a stand alone instrument though so it's different and with the updates that are in beta right now it's going to be pretty sic... I won't buy one until they come out with a smaller unit but there isn't anything else in it's lane.... there are a lot of other boxes but if you're looking at a korg, Roland, or one of the others then you don't want an Force because they are quite different.... that's what I mean by not competing....
same for the Model Samples... it's so different that not even the other elektron boxes can completely fulfill it's workflow... as an owner of this one I'm astounded by what it Feels like while in the process of what it can do, again there just isn't anything by any other dev that feels like it... I fully think all of these manufacturers should be directly competing with one another but no one as of yet has anything on the drawing board to compete with the model samples.. So when they come out with a smaller Force and a larger Model Samples there are going to be allot of happy campers out there...
I guess the hardware domain isn't any different than the software /app domain in that outside of Gr16 who is really trying to emulate a great workflow... you mentioned Bm3 which is cool but it doesn't feel like an mpc, doesn't feel like the force, or anything else for that matter. Patterning doesn't feel like the elektrons etc... in this case I wouldn't want it to though because patterning has it's own special feel that I personally wouldn't want it to deviate from but there are a lot of devs out there and the wheel has already been invented we just need more of them..
the new mc-707 has the clip launching etc... and still doesn't look like it feels like ableton, I'm just saying that I wish that the devs would start putting more of the things they already know are proven to work into the mix a little, I know that 'Not being groundbreaking' isn't the sexiest of notions for a developer but the piano is still sexy and the workflow just works.
Well there's also the issues of copyrights and emulating concepts across companies. No one likely wants to accused of copying a concept another company is known for. So, they do similar things that are just different enough from each other.
That in turn makes it a total pita to use products in a 'similar' categories from different companies expecting every feature to be present in every product
(That goes foes built-in sequencers as well, the MicroFreak has a pretty good built-in step sequencer and I would love to have that built-in into the UNOSynth as well but it's a no-go, so I have to do partial sequencing on the Freak, record it into the UNO and ARGHHHH!).
Copyrights and Patents can be good at times but when they hinder development of truly awesome products they are just silly...
Absolutely. The Force could work just as well on an iPad with appropriate audio interface but if any developer would want to invest this much of development effort for an app that he cannot offer for too little money is questionable. I bet that @jimpavloff has thought about this too because he already did a fantastic job with Gr16 but let's see if anybody will take the challenge with the Force's concept.
No, it doesn't feel like any hardware I know either and yet once you have accepted and practiced the way it works you can become very productive anyway. The more you know what you want to do and the more you stick with one app only, the better. I've tried to do what was shown in the Force video (loop recording, editing, launching etc.) with NS2, BM3, Modstep, Gadget, Cubasis etc and BM3 was the only one that was just as straightforward to use as recording with the Force.
And that's exactly the point. I think that you can do yourself a great favor by picking your favorite apps and focus on the music instead of trying to find the holy grail and focus on app features.
...see above - Of course it's not Ableton but you might have lots of fun with it anyway, which could be interesting to find out
It's not just that, it's about different people looking for totally different things.
Take AUM and 50 different synth, fx and sequencer plugins. For some it's a music maker's dream, for others it's a fiddly nightmare with too many dependencies.
Take BM3 with its workflow that hasn't been seen before and therefore splits users in lovers (the ones that took the time to learn) and haters (the ones that either didn't take the time or just chose not to learn using yet another deep app).
Take Gadget with its pattern-oriented workflow. A dream for fans of pattern-based composition but just the wrong tool for the many who always preferred a linear timeline.
There will probably never be a one-stop solution to satisfy everyone, and what seems just obvious and logical to me will for sure seem downright irritating for some others.
Good to have the variety we have today. And the limitations. Like sitting at the piano.
Adding to that and what you said in the post after, I think they need to adopt a hybrid, digi/model work flow in their next box. I have both digi’s, the A4 mk2, and Octatrack mk2. And while i love the sound of the last two, the fun is in the first two. There is only a few things I pine for in the Model or Akai devices. Other companies would really need to adopt the Elektron sequencer mentality for me to switch. Blah blah, i’m not sure what’s next but pretty exciting time to get back to hardware... also, I would love to see some software companies adding some of the same tweaks to their sequencers.
TLDR YMMV
Haha that's a 'user error' LOL.
Also, each of these companies wants us to buy products from them and each has their limitations in resources, so they develop features based on the talent they have. Unless they poach talent of the designers/engineers that X company have to develop the same feature in product from company Y, it'll be difficult to have everything work in everything else. But like @rs2000 said, variety is spice of life. You can only put so much into a product that keeps you from releasing something, adds to scope creep, etc.
yes, yes, and more yes ...
I love all of these differences but I wish that the core standards of all of these things would get put into one box, there's room for great pads, P.locks, tempo and time signature automation, sample freezing on a pad, comprehensive midi, a 'chance knob' lol, and great FX to be put into one box.... It's not like Yamaha has anything better to do anyway so come oooonnnn yammy!!
Also, if we are going to add to our list of wants, can we make it super portable as well? Like opz portable? I love iOS apps and finally have a good set up with them, but constant crashes or state saving freak outs limits me on finishing tracks.
yeah I don't know what is up with these behemoths they keep putting out, and that goes for purely controllers too cause folks who use those carry a computer around as well.
If Synthstrom comes out with a mk2, with actual waveform editing on screen and 6-8 knobs, a fader, and 6 individual outs... they'll cash in!
is this guy serious, did he really say what I think he said at the 39 sec mark?
we don't know nuthin till we know the guts
a> @kobamoto said:
Mixing consoles.
It obviously has a respectable number of audio i/o channels on board.
Should they really be pulling that apart in the garden? ☺️
I disagree with "the most important component":
It's the software IMHO.
you mean it's not just an midi controller?
respect to the work he's put in though.... now all somebody needs to do is invent a shrink ray gun
definitely!!
@[Deleted User] I know huh
He said that the goal was to provide key features of ... mixing consoles ...
Who knows. I had a quick look on his kickstarter page and the thing looked more like a controller indeed. Well. Hope it's more than what I saw on the pictures.
I guess the bright side is that it's something for the giants among us, I'm all about inclusivity
I wish him and his endeavors well!
I wish somebody with the same gusto would create a push that is half the size of the push 2 and not ugly like the novation launchpad
A cheap Launchpad mini, maybe a Beatstep or MPD/MPC pads and an iPad with Lemur+LiveControl or Touchable Pro, what's better than that?
Yes, maybe just a mouse, a laptop with Ableton and a few keyboard shortcuts.
Technology becomes less important when music matters the most, and especially so with MIDI controllers that still have no robotic button and knob placing
hence why I own the launchpad mini and the ugly launchpad pro, but frankly there's quite a lot better than that lol, although it does depend on the mood so I keep them around, actually the model samples + launchpad controlling bassalicious is delicious!!!
does anyone know of any alternatives for overlays?
https://www.oversynth.com/blank-page-4
Yes, a vector design prog and a color printer, usually also available in copy shops.
They'll print your color template for a few cents.
Ask them how to prepare such a file to make sure the scale fits perfectly.
Then cut out the holes using a cutter knife. More work but cheap.
Or, if you like it playful, a mini LED beamer that projects your favorite overlay onto the control surface