BeatMaker 3 dropped to free!

ecou

@MonzoPro said:

@ecou said:
After this never ending post we will never get a free app ever again. Développer might even be afraid of giving us sales.

On the contrary it’ll probably be part of a new trend.

Fill yer boots while it lasts. Let’s just hope the smaller devs can compete.

Well one can only hope. But I’m doubtful.

jcdream

@mannix said:

@knewspeak said:

@greengrocer said:

@mathieugarcia said:
Hey everyone!

I will just have to thanks everyone who understand this move. Again, this is something we're just doing during NAMM. It is pretty gutsy, and I wasn't expecting so much reaction from it, to be honest.

It raised plenty of questions, some people understand it, some people hate it, some people love it. We were pretty much prepared for that.

It gives the opportunity to anyone with an iPad to start creating music. More people on board also means more understanding of what people want / don't want / expect. In the end, this will hopefully benefit everyone. Making the perfect app that suits everyone's need is impossible, but making a solid app with a concise feature set is.

Part of this event was also to get a little bit of exposure during NAMM, so the semi-pro / pro crowd can see what's possible to do on an iPad. Sure, BM3 is only "showcasing" part of that, there's plenty more apps out there with the great collection of AUv3 plugins and other DAWs available.

Let's not jump to any conclusion now, let's just enjoy the moment, and welcome everyone to join our ranks!
BeatMaker 3 will still be updated, improved, polished, that's the main goal. Plenty of exciting things to come.

Have a good day!

Cheers,
Mathieu.

I downloaded the app yesterday for free. Thanks!

Still I think it's a pretty stupid move. It undermines also the trust in de iOS ecosystem where the same expensive app can become free the next day. I would even go as far as saying that this whole gesture shows the bankruptcy of the whole app economy. It just comes down that a dev can and/or will do with his/ her app to get exposure. Sad!

The target of so called NAMM people makes the argument even more flawed. (Semi) Pro's with the money should get it Beatmaker for free, and the ordinary iOS musicians crowd that supported the quite pricey app should understand this... I think this is an even more horrible scenario/ thought. If you went, as you said, seriously through this kind of thinking. Why not initiatlly give it away from free to start to build a seriously user base and then slowly raise the price. Or set the intial price a lot lower than the $19.99. I just don't get the strategy to start with a quite high pricepoint, double it soon and after that giving away an app that even was $39.99 for free so that the semi/pro's can get start working with it. It smells a like a cheap publicity stunt and if you are successful in getting this publicity and attention probably more devs will follow this kind of strategy, leading as said above to the bankruptcy of the app economy, because people without deep pockets will think twice of buying expensive apps. On the other hand it could pave the way for to a new dawn of users jailbreaking their iOS devices, because in that case you don't have the feeling of devs ripping you off with expensive apps that in the near future will be free.... so why wait till those expensive apps get free while you can have the for free with a jailbroken device.
So I totally understand while paid users of Beatmaker are frustrated. A lot of them just feel ripped off and being played especially because you use the argument to widen your userbase with the (Semi-) Pro's (the folks with the money) should have it for free just to get acquainted.

A well reasoned statement that I agree with, if this was Intua's intention from the start to eventually give away the app and fund its development via IAPs it would have been nice to know that from the start, if this is the case now, it would be nice to know, or if this is to bring music to the masses then why not just make it free from now on.

Very good points here. Seems it's again a "little" dev that has been rippin off "little" iOS musicians because he wants to play with the big boys at NAMM. So give his thing away to them. It just feels unfair. This just doesn't feel as a right move. I'm not a hater, but I'm surely I don't like types like this dev Mathieu.

Positioning this app in a niche market (iOS) and with a niche price and after a while start talking like somebody with principles and on that higher grounds giving the app away just sounds disgusting to me. Just be honest and don't talk about so called higher ideals. People and "little" iOS musician forgive mistakes as pointed out by @greengrocer in the case of KRFT but they just don't buy the nonsense you feed them with your publicity stunt they in fact paid for. This just feels so fucking unfair! (free after the Discharge)
I will never invest a penny anymore in something made by Intua. That being said I will complain about the smallest issues I have with this app I paid $39.99 for. Besides that I also will leave very negative feedback in the Appstore with any update. I also will advise to do this to my friends that paid top $ for this app. We've paid for it and now we we should also want all bugs and issues out of it and of course we want also the promised iPhone version asap

+1,no more pay to INTUA.I would rather delete BM3 (for me,no love,no use) than to support their hypocritical goal for attract more POTENTIAL customers.Hey Intua,how about Patreon,it may be more suitable for your economics.* Face palm *

Just waiting for NS2.

BlueGreenSpiral

Imagine if Korg or Roland released a synth with no resonance on the filter. Would this mean that all future synths from all manufacturers would also follow suit?

It is a different approach but it is hardly the end of iOS music as we know it!

ruggedsmooth

Woooo gotta love Friday’s!

mister_rz

@MonzoPro said:

@mister_rz said:

@MonzoPro said:

@hansjbs said:
OHHHHHH LORRRDDDDDD this thread is still going!!!!

It’s the way of this forum unfortunately, a couple of members disagree with the masses, and it becomes a free for all, kick-in-the-teeth pile of personal attacks and nastiness.

Horrible.

I wonder how many of those thinking a £40 - £0 price cut is a wonderful thing, paid £40 for the app? Actually I don’t need to wonder, the answer is none.

Tossers.

Ouch Monzo, I'm one of them tossers,

No you’re not.

Oh yes I am, tonight I have hankering for pantomime, to be fair this always happens, last year when the r2 verb was given away and people also got a 50% off voucher for the newer r4, which exceeded the intro offer both in terms of discount generosity and duration the collective welp this created on gearslutz, could of powered a small city for a year, to say the early adopters were inconsolable, would be an understatement.

But look on the upside of this, when I fired up the app, loaded up my auv3 list out of curiosity, shocked I was at how lacking the list was. Switched to iaa and the list was ample, this promo (which I believe is powered by rainbows and unicorns) might create a tidal wave of eager auv3 beavers and if only a few land on here, they'll join our righteous cause and together we can bring full joy to ios and fulfill mr goodyears vision.

ExAsperis99

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> +1,no more pay to INTUA.I would rather delete BM3 (for me,no love,no use) than to support their hypocritical goal for attract more POTENTIAL customers.

Just going to leave that there.

[Deleted User]

@ExAsperis99 said:

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> +1,no more pay to INTUA.I would rather delete BM3 (for me,no love,no use) than to support their hypocritical goal for attract more POTENTIAL customers.

Just going to leave that there.

I no I should rise above sarcasm, but I think whoever wrote that has been on that dope smoking thread

hansjbs

BlueGreenSpiral

Can we possibly delete this thread after NAMM, it looks like there's no end in sight!
I do realise that I have added another post to it..

[Deleted User]

@mister_rz said:

@MonzoPro said:

@mister_rz said:

@MonzoPro said:

@hansjbs said:
OHHHHHH LORRRDDDDDD this thread is still going!!!!

It’s the way of this forum unfortunately, a couple of members disagree with the masses, and it becomes a free for all, kick-in-the-teeth pile of personal attacks and nastiness.

Horrible.

I wonder how many of those thinking a £40 - £0 price cut is a wonderful thing, paid £40 for the app? Actually I don’t need to wonder, the answer is none.

Tossers.

Ouch Monzo, I'm one of them tossers,

No you’re not.

Oh yes I am, tonight I have hankering for pantomime, to be fair this always happens, last year when the r2 verb was given away and people also got a 50% off voucher for the newer r4, which exceeded the intro offer both in terms of discount generosity and duration the collective welp this created on gearslutz, could of powered a small city for a year, to say the early adopters were inconsolable, would be an understatement.

But look on the upside of this, when I fired up the app, loaded up my auv3 list out of curiosity, shocked I was at how lacking the list was. Switched to iaa and the list was ample, this promo (which I believe is powered by rainbows and unicorns) might create a tidal wave of eager auv3 beavers and if only a few land on here, they'll join our righteous cause and together we can bring full joy to ios and fulfill mr goodyears vision.

My whole angle on this is it’s a bad business move. Because once something has been released for free, it’s logged on app trackers, and will make it hard for the seller to get future buyers to shell out the full whack once they’ve done this. They’ll wait for the next sale.

A five pound app, reduced to 50p for a few weeks, fine. But £40 to nothing demonstrates a massive fluctuation in pricing, and personally I wouldn’t put all my eggs in a dev’s basket who was that random.

But hey, what do I know. I’m sure they have a cunning plan to capitalise on giving away their work for nothing.

ExAsperis99

@BlueGreenSpiral said:
Can we possibly delete this thread after NAMM, it looks like there's no end in sight!
I do realise that I have added another post to it..

You could ignore it. IF YOU THINK YOU ARE STRONG ENOUGH.

And this thread is NOTHING compared to the apocalypse that seized the forum the day that BM3 was — I was going to say "released," but that doesn't do the mass panic justice. It's the AB Forum's very own "War of the Worlds."

Michael

Good lord what a mess to wake up to