Beepstreet Drambo

audio_DT

@AudioGus said:
Dayum, looks like I checked back on this thread just at the right time!

I want no part in the arguing! Sorry I mentioned it

[Deleted User]

@Shiro said:

@MonzoPro said:

@YourJunk said:

@MonzoPro said:

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Sorry, but this is just ridiculous. It reminds me of a Women’s Institute committee meeting where they spend seven hours discussing who’s responsible for the bunting at the local fete.

Had to throw the misogyny in at the end there, eh?

It reminds me of a male, twenty-something, hipster, beardy, trendy web development team meeting, where they’re trying to decide which child’s cartoon character toy to put on their monitors that month.

Happy now, or would you like me to come up with some other imaginary scenario you can take offence at?

@Shiro said:

@MonzoPro said:

@audio_DT said:
Ah, the great Ship of Yawn that is the Drambo thread. Rumour has it that many have seen this ship, that it goes faster than an other ship, holds more people than any other ship, and has more luxuries on board than any other ship. But it still seems to be moored somewhere near the Arctic Circle, with only wild creatures attesting to its actual existence. Me? I still hold out hope it's true, all true, but I tend to think of it as winning a bet on the football: might happen ... one day.

This isn’t going to be released any time soon. Reading between the lines this is coming across more as a personal project than an actual commercial product.

Tweaking, new features, tweaks to the new features, bug fixes to accommodate the new features, then more suggestions for new features, UI tweaks etc.

And by the time it’s escaped from that loop there will be iOS updates to accommodate. So bug fixes, UI changes, more new feature suggestions....

Sorry, but this is just ridiculous. It reminds me of a Women’s Institute committee meeting where they spend seven hours discussing who’s responsible for the bunting at the local fete.

I don't mean this in a negative way but you are basically wrong on everything you said because you are making assumptions by reading in between the lines.

Lol, “wrong on everything you said” is about as negative as you can get.

I’m not in the Drambo club, so reading between the lines in this appalling thread is the best I can do, and the last few pages/months/years lead me to conclude my assumptions are correct.

But hey, prove me wrong, I enjoy that.

When’s the release date?

I cant tell you that but ill prove you wrong then well both be happy and people can be at peace... until the next app.

You see, that’s the problem. This secret ‘I can’t tell you’ club thing. If you can’t tell me or other outsiders when the release date is, or even which month it’ll arrive, then we only have what’s written in the thread to go by. And on this very page, it’s been stated:

“very open to the many suggestions from users in this thread as well as from all the different beta testers with their different opinions and preferences. His feature request list must be endless now. With every single feature added, two new requests seem to appear.
The challenge is not only to make users with different priorities happy but also to keep the huge amount of control options manageable by humans like you and me without cluttering the UI.

All this is still work in progress”

Which to me, as someone who’s worked in software and web development for about 30 years, sounds like an ongoing project, not a product close to release.

You know, it’d be great to be able to buy this soon. No pressure, just pandemics n shit.

[Deleted User]

@audio_DT said:

@AudioGus said:
Dayum, looks like I checked back on this thread just at the right time!

I want no part in the arguing! Sorry I mentioned it

Yeah that’s right, it’s just me being a PITA as usual.

Not arguing though, just trying to break through the Great Wall of Drambo and get some kind of release date.

Svetlovska

@giku_beepstreet’s track record and work in progress on this speaks for itself. However, and I do truly mean this supportively for someone who has clearly put their heart and soul into this thing, I do wonder if the perfect might not risk becoming the enemy of the good here?

Snark aside, there is an issue that tweaks to tweaks to features to updates to accommodate IOS updates etc could become a hamster wheel in place of a road map.

Might it, if only for the dev’s own peace of mind be, ahem, time to ‘let it go’?

I remember the devs comments re an early 2020 release date last year, but I agree that @rs2000’s ‘update’ comment above made it sound on the contrary that a new release date is in fact stretching months or even years now into the future. Perhaps @rs2000 is unintentionally trolling us, but still...

So my personal preference at this (hopefully) late stage would be to have it released ‘as is’, and wait for it to be ‘fixed in the mix’ afterwards if necessary, and to go the IAP route for future significant additions/modules etc.

I’ve lost count of the number of buggy, inconsistent music apps I’ve paid good money for, and still managed to have some fun with, even if those apps never even got fixed. I know that a dev like beepstreet won’t let that happen to his baby here, so I’m prepared to take the risk. If only so I didn’t have to keep checking this thread like a PC Gamer true believer waiting for news that a new Half Life was coming, or a Fallout 76 that actually works...

After all, enough of the beta testers seem to be having fun with it/doing useful things with it as-is don’t they? Personally, I would be prepared to pull the trigger and release the damn thing. But then, I’m not Mr Beepstreet.

rs2000

@Clueless said:
In the meantime. Anybody want to share a guitar preset demo made with Drambo?
Or a nice Organ, noisy Flute or human voices.
I just ask because i really like modular synthesis to do some semi-realistic stuff and i sometimes find audio rate modulations with the right envelopes, filters, saturation and FX sounds better than physical modeling. At least if you want something simple just controlled via velocity and play it on a normal keyboard.

Can you send a miRack patch that does one of the sounds that you have in mind?

Synthi

@MonzoPro said:

@Shiro said:

I’m not in the Drambo club, so reading between the lines in this appalling thread is the best I can do, and the last few pages/months/years lead me to conclude my assumptions are correct.

But hey, prove me wrong, I enjoy that.

When’s the release date?

I cant tell you that but ill prove you wrong then well both be happy and people can be at peace... until the next app.

You see, that’s the problem. This secret ‘I can’t tell you’ club thing. If you can’t tell me or other outsiders when the release date is, or even which month it’ll arrive, then we only have what’s written in the thread to go by. And on this very page, it’s been stated:

“very open to the many suggestions from users in this thread as well as from all the different beta testers with their different opinions and preferences. His feature request list must be endless now. With every single feature added, two new requests seem to appear.
The challenge is not only to make users with different priorities happy but also to keep the huge amount of control options manageable by humans like you and me without cluttering the UI.

All this is still work in progress”

Which to me, as someone who’s worked in software and web development for about 30 years, sounds like an ongoing project, not a product close to release.

You know, it’d be great to be able to buy this soon. No pressure, just pandemics n shit.

+1
This drambo seems to be a neverending story... There was an oficial word for a release in late december/new year...

[Deleted User]

@MonzoPro said:

@Shiro said:

@MonzoPro said:

@YourJunk said:

@MonzoPro said:

>

Sorry, but this is just ridiculous. It reminds me of a Women’s Institute committee meeting where they spend seven hours discussing who’s responsible for the bunting at the local fete.

Had to throw the misogyny in at the end there, eh?

It reminds me of a male, twenty-something, hipster, beardy, trendy web development team meeting, where they’re trying to decide which child’s cartoon character toy to put on their monitors that month.

Happy now, or would you like me to come up with some other imaginary scenario you can take offence at?

@Shiro said:

@MonzoPro said:

@audio_DT said:
Ah, the great Ship of Yawn that is the Drambo thread. Rumour has it that many have seen this ship, that it goes faster than an other ship, holds more people than any other ship, and has more luxuries on board than any other ship. But it still seems to be moored somewhere near the Arctic Circle, with only wild creatures attesting to its actual existence. Me? I still hold out hope it's true, all true, but I tend to think of it as winning a bet on the football: might happen ... one day.

This isn’t going to be released any time soon. Reading between the lines this is coming across more as a personal project than an actual commercial product.

Tweaking, new features, tweaks to the new features, bug fixes to accommodate the new features, then more suggestions for new features, UI tweaks etc.

And by the time it’s escaped from that loop there will be iOS updates to accommodate. So bug fixes, UI changes, more new feature suggestions....

Sorry, but this is just ridiculous. It reminds me of a Women’s Institute committee meeting where they spend seven hours discussing who’s responsible for the bunting at the local fete.

I don't mean this in a negative way but you are basically wrong on everything you said because you are making assumptions by reading in between the lines.

Lol, “wrong on everything you said” is about as negative as you can get.

I’m not in the Drambo club, so reading between the lines in this appalling thread is the best I can do, and the last few pages/months/years lead me to conclude my assumptions are correct.

But hey, prove me wrong, I enjoy that.

When’s the release date?

I cant tell you that but ill prove you wrong then well both be happy and people can be at peace... until the next app.

You see, that’s the problem. This secret ‘I can’t tell you’ club thing. If you can’t tell me or other outsiders when the release date is, or even which month it’ll arrive, then we only have what’s written in the thread to go by. And on this very page, it’s been stated:

“very open to the many suggestions from users in this thread as well as from all the different beta testers with their different opinions and preferences. His feature request list must be endless now. With every single feature added, two new requests seem to appear.
The challenge is not only to make users with different priorities happy but also to keep the huge amount of control options manageable by humans like you and me without cluttering the UI.

All this is still work in progress”

Which to me, as someone who’s worked in software and web development for about 30 years, sounds like an ongoing project, not a product close to release.

You know, it’d be great to be able to buy this soon. No pressure, just pandemics n shit.

I understand your frustration. Different people see different things. What I see is the focus is not of endless feature requests but getting it ready for release soon as possible. I hope you'll feel a bit better sir.

ChancedMusic

People on this forum: Behringer is trying to put out a DAW in a year and a half? Preposterous. No way.

Also people on this forum: tHiS HUge ApP iS taKInG tOo lOnG

Sergiu

Again, what was the professional reason in throwing Drambo out , not having a clear timeline or close to a clear product timeline development ? Keep it where it belongs and you won't risk having an outdated self-consumed product.

[Deleted User]

@Shiro said:

What I see is the focus is not of endless feature requests but getting it ready for release soon as possible. I hope you’ll feel a bit better sir.

Blimey, I haven’t been called sir since the last time I was arrested. You are aware this thread is two years old?

Did you read this bit:

“very open to the many suggestions from users in this thread as well as from all the different beta testers with their different opinions and preferences. His feature request list must be endless now. With every single feature added, two new requests seem to appear”

and this:

“All this is still work in progress”

That seems to contradict what you’re saying, but a date would certainly make me feel better

supadom

It’s coming very very soon but maybe I shouldn’t be spoiling the surprise? 🤑

[Deleted User]

@MonzoPro said:

@Shiro said:

What I see is the focus is not of endless feature requests but getting it ready for release soon as possible. I hope you’ll feel a bit better sir.

Blimey, I haven’t been called sir since the last time I was arrested.

Did you read this bit:

“very open to the many suggestions from users in this thread as well as from all the different beta testers with their different opinions and preferences. His feature request list must be endless now. With every single feature added, two new requests seem to appear”

and this:

“All this is still work in progress”

That seems to contradict what you’re saying, but a date would certainly make me feel better

hihi, well i would go for my view and bet on being proven wrong.

[Deleted User]

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RockySmalls

@MonzoPro said:

@RockySmalls said:

@YourJunk said:

@MonzoPro said:

@audio_DT said:
Ah, the great Ship of Yawn that is the Drambo thread. Rumour has it that many have seen this ship, that it goes faster than an other ship, holds more people than any other ship, and has more luxuries on board than any other ship. But it still seems to be moored somewhere near the Arctic Circle, with only wild creatures attesting to its actual existence. Me? I still hold out hope it's true, all true, but I tend to think of it as winning a bet on the football: might happen ... one day.

This isn’t going to be released any time soon. Reading between the lines this is coming across more as a personal project than an actual commercial product.

Tweaking, new features, tweaks to the new features, bug fixes to accommodate the new features, then more suggestions for new features, UI tweaks etc.

And by the time it’s escaped from that loop there will be iOS updates to accommodate. So bug fixes, UI changes, more new feature suggestions....

Sorry, but this is just ridiculous. It reminds me of a Women’s Institute committee meeting where they spend seven hours discussing who’s responsible for the bunting at the local fete.

Had to throw the misogyny in at the end there, eh?

your Brussel Sprout Jam didn’t get placed this year eh Lady Offallington-

They have a ‘Longest Thistle Contest’ at the fete here.

Bit racist against stinging nettles I thought.

“ thistle set the opinionocracy a twitting fer shaw!”

[Deleted User]

@RockySmalls said:

@MonzoPro said:

@RockySmalls said:

@YourJunk said:

@MonzoPro said:

@audio_DT said:
Ah, the great Ship of Yawn that is the Drambo thread. Rumour has it that many have seen this ship, that it goes faster than an other ship, holds more people than any other ship, and has more luxuries on board than any other ship. But it still seems to be moored somewhere near the Arctic Circle, with only wild creatures attesting to its actual existence. Me? I still hold out hope it's true, all true, but I tend to think of it as winning a bet on the football: might happen ... one day.

This isn’t going to be released any time soon. Reading between the lines this is coming across more as a personal project than an actual commercial product.

Tweaking, new features, tweaks to the new features, bug fixes to accommodate the new features, then more suggestions for new features, UI tweaks etc.

And by the time it’s escaped from that loop there will be iOS updates to accommodate. So bug fixes, UI changes, more new feature suggestions....

Sorry, but this is just ridiculous. It reminds me of a Women’s Institute committee meeting where they spend seven hours discussing who’s responsible for the bunting at the local fete.

Had to throw the misogyny in at the end there, eh?

your Brussel Sprout Jam didn’t get placed this year eh Lady Offallington-

They have a ‘Longest Thistle Contest’ at the fete here.

Bit racist against stinging nettles I thought.

“ thistle set the opinionocracy a twitting fer shaw!”

Marjory, is that green stain on your blouse a small sample of The Major’s delicious gooseberry jam?

OR SOMETHING MORE SINISTER?

NoiseFloored

@Sergiu said:
Again, what was the professional reason in throwing Drambo out , not having a clear timeline or close to a clear product timeline development ? Keep it where it belongs and you won't risk having an outdated self-consumed product.

The product has fed off the suggestions in this thread. Even if it hadn't, I don't see how it would be unprofessional.

lukesleepwalker

@rafaelollero said:
Its something

http://www.beepstreet.com/ios/drambo

Egads, this sure looks and sounds like DerVoco to me!

RockySmalls

@MonzoPro said:

@RockySmalls said:

@MonzoPro said:

@RockySmalls said:

@YourJunk said:

@MonzoPro said:

@audio_DT said:
Ah, the great Ship of Yawn that is the Drambo thread. Rumour has it that many have seen this ship, that it goes faster than an other ship, holds more people than any other ship, and has more luxuries on board than any other ship. But it still seems to be moored somewhere near the Arctic Circle, with only wild creatures attesting to its actual existence. Me? I still hold out hope it's true, all true, but I tend to think of it as winning a bet on the football: might happen ... one day.

This isn’t going to be released any time soon. Reading between the lines this is coming across more as a personal project than an actual commercial product.

Tweaking, new features, tweaks to the new features, bug fixes to accommodate the new features, then more suggestions for new features, UI tweaks etc.

And by the time it’s escaped from that loop there will be iOS updates to accommodate. So bug fixes, UI changes, more new feature suggestions....

Sorry, but this is just ridiculous. It reminds me of a Women’s Institute committee meeting where they spend seven hours discussing who’s responsible for the bunting at the local fete.

Had to throw the misogyny in at the end there, eh?

your Brussel Sprout Jam didn’t get placed this year eh Lady Offallington-

They have a ‘Longest Thistle Contest’ at the fete here.

Bit racist against stinging nettles I thought.

“ thistle set the opinionocracy a twitting fer shaw!”

Marjory, is that green stain on your blouse a small sample of Quentin’s delicious gooseberry jam?

OR SOMETHING MORE SINISTER?

it’s actually a Wheatgrass poultice Klarinda my dear... and DEFINITELY NOTHING to do with that rather proud gladiola stem i was stroking from Mr Egesst’s prize winning arrangement in the Rotary Tent. One would simply die for a bottle of Cif out here on the common.

Sergiu

It might be a revolutionary marketing approach in music technology industry. I see ios apps exactly the same as hardware products. I might not be aware, but I didn't hear major companies announcing they have an lcd screen for their upcoming product,...which they don't know yet...what/when that screen will show off...is that professional enough? > @jipumarino said:

@Sergiu said:
Again, what was the professional reason in throwing Drambo out , not having a clear timeline or close to a clear product timeline development ? Keep it where it belongs and you won't risk having an outdated self-consumed product.

The product has fed off the suggestions in this thread. Even if it hadn't, I don't see how it would be unprofessional.

AndyPlankton

and repeat...

Telstar5

@Telstar5 said:

@Beathoven said:

@OnfraySin said:
Pretty amazing how I lost all the interest that I had a few months ago about Drambo

Again the same “fanboy” effect related to NS2

>

@giku_beepstreet said:
btw. Out of curiosity: guys what do you think about app subscription model?

Subscription is a definite “No”. It wouldn’t work on the App Store because there are so many other cheap a d good apps to get without being forever tied into one .

legsmechanical

@lukesleepwalker said:
Phony drambo-mania has bitten the dust.

I'm just hear to encourage Clash references.

wim

@legsmechanical said:

@lukesleepwalker said:
Phony drambo-mania has bitten the dust.

I'm just hear to encourage Clash references.

I ask myself "should I stay or should I go" every time I drop in hear.

ChancedMusic

@wim said:

@legsmechanical said:

@lukesleepwalker said:
Phony drambo-mania has bitten the dust.

I'm just hear to encourage Clash references.

I ask myself "should I stay or should I go" every time I drop in hear.

Doesn’t matter where you go.

Drambo’s calling to the faraway towns. Ain’t no need for ya.

Clueless

@rs2000 said:

@Clueless said:
In the meantime. Anybody want to share a guitar preset demo made with Drambo?
Or a nice Organ, noisy Flute or human voices.
I just ask because i really like modular synthesis to do some semi-realistic stuff and i sometimes find audio rate modulations with the right envelopes, filters, saturation and FX sounds better than physical modeling. At least if you want something simple just controlled via velocity and play it on a normal keyboard.

Can you send a miRack patch that does one of the sounds that you have in mind?

I do not use miRack. I prefer more the analog side of modulars. (Model 15 on iOS, P900 on mac which is quite the best for these kind of modular sounds f.e.).
Since Zeeon has that nice analog flavor and it seems Drambo can do everything and more Zeeon can do i could imagine that these things are possible now. It might also be the only modular which is actually fun to use on an iPad/iPhone.
As much as i like Model1 5, the workflow is terrible for me.

NoiseFloored

@YourJunk said:

@wim said:

@legsmechanical said:

@lukesleepwalker said:
Phony drambo-mania has bitten the dust.

I'm just hear to encourage Clash references.

I ask myself "should I stay or should I go" every time I drop in hear.

Doesn’t matter where you go.

Drambo’s calling to the faraway towns. Ain’t no need for ya.

This indecision is bugging me. Esta indecisión me molesta.

[Deleted User]

@Clueless said:

@rs2000 said:

@Clueless said:
In the meantime. Anybody want to share a guitar preset demo made with Drambo?
Or a nice Organ, noisy Flute or human voices.
I just ask because i really like modular synthesis to do some semi-realistic stuff and i sometimes find audio rate modulations with the right envelopes, filters, saturation and FX sounds better than physical modeling. At least if you want something simple just controlled via velocity and play it on a normal keyboard.

Can you send a miRack patch that does one of the sounds that you have in mind?

I do not use miRack. I prefer more the analog side of modulars. (Model 15 on iOS, P900 on mac which is quite the best for these kind of modular sounds f.e.).
Since Zeeon has that nice analog flavor and it seems Drambo can do everything and more Zeeon can do i could imagine that these things are possible now. It might also be the only modular which is actually fun to use on an iPad/iPhone.
As much as i like Model1 5, the workflow is terrible for me.

Here some parameters locked to scenes and controlled by the crossfader plus some main transpose. On a iphone 6s. Not related to your request for specific sounds which im sure @rs2000 will show you in great mannor.

No samples just drambo syntheses, nothing special and low quality video but maybe you like.

ChancedMusic

@jipumarino said:

@YourJunk said:

@wim said:

@legsmechanical said:

@lukesleepwalker said:
Phony drambo-mania has bitten the dust.

I'm just hear to encourage Clash references.

I ask myself "should I stay or should I go" every time I drop in hear.

Doesn’t matter where you go.

Drambo’s calling to the faraway towns. Ain’t no need for ya.

This indecision is bugging me. Esta indecisión me molesta.

I might appreciate this, but the Shareef don’t like it.

cyberheater

Am I going to get this before I get Coronavirus?

Daveypoo

@cyberheater said:
Am I going to get this before I get Coronavirus?

No.