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Any chance of auv3 sampler ?

Theres still no normal user friendly auv3 sampler.
Is anything coming ?
The most useful now is virsyn reslice, but very buggy here in cubasis. Cant open two instances, crushes all the time.

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  • ReSlice is AUv3.

  • Not had any issues with ReSlice as a AUv3 using AUM.

  • Beathawk? I have it but just haven’t used it much.

  • ReSlice as AU does not sample

  • Samplist would be dope as an AU, pretty much the most intuitive iOS sampler in my view. It’s the sampler that Garage Band “should” have.

  • Wish the BM3 guys would expand its sampler as an AU.

  • Check the Quanta thread... the 3 pages of discussion about how to get a sample into it should be a hint about why there is no simple AUv3 sampler yet ;)

  • @Korakios said:
    ReSlice as AU does not sample

    you are correct but it does record as a IAA which is fine.

  • @brambos said:
    Check the Quanta thread... the 3 pages of discussion about how to get a sample into it should be a hint about why there is no simple AUv3 sampler yet ;)

    Sample Import is easy. Just tap the disk icon and browse to a file :)

    It's the preset import that caused all the havoc hahaha...
    And some users having iOS issues with Safari (my guess is old iOS version).

  • edited July 2018

    If I only had experience with AU apart from the audio metronome in Xequence (I used AUGraph, so I guess that's an AUv3 then? :D), I would already released errr, Xampler by now ;)

    I still find it hilarious that even the best current iOS sampler (probably BM3's) isn't even on feature parity with midrange hardware samplers from 25 years ago... (if you don't believe me, read the manual for an Akai S1000 or E-mu E4X, both of which I extensively used...)

  • @Korakios said:
    ReSlice as AU does not sample

    As mentioned above, it does record what comes through it.

  • @SevenSystems :I didn’t know that.. First of all I thought BM3 WAS Auv3, but mainly, what can the aforementioned Alain and Emu samplers do that Bm3 can’t? Not challenging you, just inquiring..

  • @Samu said:

    @brambos said:
    Check the Quanta thread... the 3 pages of discussion about how to get a sample into it should be a hint about why there is no simple AUv3 sampler yet ;)

    Sample Import is easy. Just tap the disk icon and browse to a file :)

    It's the preset import that caused all the havoc hahaha...
    And some users having iOS issues with Safari (my guess is old iOS version).

    My point still stands. Anything that has to do with the combination of AUv3 and intensive file management is akin to opening a fresh bottle of horrors. Add to that the utter impossibility to make a sampler that will satisfy anyone's list of demands and you end up with a quest for pain and suffering. I know I'm staying far away from that.

  • @Fruitbat1919 :Well, there’s my answer.. I thought bm3 was auv3.. I guess not

  • @CRAKROX :exactly.. I love samplist

  • @brambos said:

    @Samu said:

    @brambos said:
    Check the Quanta thread... the 3 pages of discussion about how to get a sample into it should be a hint about why there is no simple AUv3 sampler yet ;)

    Sample Import is easy. Just tap the disk icon and browse to a file :)

    It's the preset import that caused all the havoc hahaha...
    And some users having iOS issues with Safari (my guess is old iOS version).

    My point still stands. Anything that has to do with the combination of AUv3 and intensive file management is akin to opening a fresh bottle of horrors. Add to that the utter impossibility to make a sampler that will satisfy anyone's list of demands and you end up with a quest for pain and suffering. I know I'm staying far away from that.

    Hilarious! :D

  • @Telstar5 said:
    @Fruitbat1919 :Well, there’s my answer.. I thought bm3 was auv3.. I guess not

    BM3 is an AUv3 host. The sampler in BM3 is part of the app itself and cannot be used as an AUv3 inside of another host.

  • @SevenSystems said:
    If I only had experience with AU apart from the audio metronome in Xequence (I used AUGraph, so I guess that's an AUv3 then? :D), I would already released errr, Xampler by now ;)

    I still find it hilarious that even the best current iOS sampler (probably BM3's) isn't even on feature parity with midrange hardware samplers from 25 years ago... (if you don't believe me, read the manual for an Akai S1000 or E-mu E4X, both of which I extensively used...)

    I had an EMU and totally agree.

  • @brambos said:

    My point still stands. Anything that has to do with the combination of AUv3 and intensive file management is akin to opening a fresh bottle of horrors. Add to that the utter impossibility to make a sampler that will satisfy anyone's list of demands and you end up with a quest for pain and suffering. I know I'm staying far away from that.

    I can fully understand that and it's impossible to make a sampler that satisfies 'everyone'.

    For me personally I'd be happy with something similar to Ableton Simpler or Cubase Sample-Track the rest can be 'arranged' in the sequencer (layers, effects etc.). But that's just me...

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    @Korakios said:
    ReSlice as AU does not sample

    you are correct but it does record as a IAA which is fine.

    Sure it does , but OP asked for AU app ;)

    @Norbert said:

    @Korakios said:
    ReSlice as AU does not sample

    As mentioned above, it does record what comes through it.

    And I insist it doesn’t as AU :)

  • @Telstar5 said:
    @SevenSystems :I didn’t know that.. First of all I thought BM3 WAS Auv3, but mainly, what can the aforementioned Alain and Emu samplers do that Bm3 can’t? Not challenging you, just inquiring..

    Now I haven't looked into every minor detail of both samplers, but I just extrapolated from all iOS samplers that I've seen until today that probably, BM3 isn't on feature parity with the E4X or S1000. I do think BM3's sampler is getting close though. But yeah, it can't be used as an AUv3 in another host.

    @Brambos should really take up the challenge... it's the one major (huge!) gaping hole in the iOS music market. Nobody needs yet another analog synth emulation from the 80s ;)

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @SevenSystems :I didn’t know that.. First of all I thought BM3 WAS Auv3, but mainly, what can the aforementioned Alain and Emu samplers do that Bm3 can’t? Not challenging you, just inquiring..

    Now I haven't looked into every minor detail of both samplers, but I just extrapolated from all iOS samplers that I've seen until today that probably, BM3 isn't on feature parity with the E4X or S1000. I do think BM3's sampler is getting close though. But yeah, it can't be used as an AUv3 in another host.

    @Brambos should really take up the challenge... it's the one major (huge!) gaping hole in the iOS music market. Nobody needs yet another analog synth emulation from the 80s ;)

    @Telstar5

    Take a look at the Emu X3 software sampler to get an idea of what a fully fledged sampler could be like for iOS. Z Plane filters, auto sampling etc.

  • Yes Samplist would’ve been great if was au.
    Evrn something really simple, like gb sampler. ( butwith good waveform view)

    Its funny that theres now about what, 5 granular au samplers,
    Loads of effects, midi effects, heaps of synths, and not one solid normal sampler .
    Again reslice is quite great, but crashfest.

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @SevenSystems :I didn’t know that.. First of all I thought BM3 WAS Auv3, but mainly, what can the aforementioned Alain and Emu samplers do that Bm3 can’t? Not challenging you, just inquiring..

    Now I haven't looked into every minor detail of both samplers, but I just extrapolated from all iOS samplers that I've seen until today that probably, BM3 isn't on feature parity with the E4X or S1000. I do think BM3's sampler is getting close though. But yeah, it can't be used as an AUv3 in another host.

    @Brambos should really take up the challenge... it's the one major (huge!) gaping hole in the iOS music market. Nobody needs yet another analog synth emulation from the 80s ;)

    The constant barrage of feature requests & bug fixes would probably be the end of him! ;)

  • edited July 2018

    @yonhorizon said:
    Its funny that theres now about what, 5 granular au samplers,
    Loads of effects, midi effects, heaps of synths, and not one solid normal sampler .

    +1000 B)

    I think it has to do with the "fun" and "noodling" aspect, which is very strong on iOS. It's the same with sequencers. A million STEP sequencers, SCENE-BASED and LOOPING and MATHEMATICAL and whatnot sequencers, but very few "solid normal sequencers" :)

  • @Iso said:

    @SevenSystems said:
    @Brambos should really take up the challenge... it's the one major (huge!) gaping hole in the iOS music market. Nobody needs yet another analog synth emulation from the 80s ;)

    The constant barrage of feature requests & bug fixes would probably be the end of him! ;)

    Like they say in German... "Life's not a pony farm"! :)

  • edited July 2018

    Even though the newly released Quanta is not a clean 'sample player' by definition it can easily be made into one.

    Just make an envelope control the 'position' (the speed of the sample) and adjust number of grains and grain-lenght to taste and voila you've got a 'time-stretching' sample-player.

  • @Samu said:
    Even though the newly released Quanta is not a clean 'sample player' by definition it can easily be made into one.

    Just make an envelope control the 'position' (the speed of the sample) and adjust number of grains and grain-lenght to taste and voila you've got a 'time-stretching' sample-player.

    Yes i was wandering if it can play “clean”, but havent got around to try it yet.

  • edited July 2018

    I have just recently bought BeatHawk and it seems to be the only real AUv3 sampler. Unfortunately, still missing the ability to time-stretch and loop own samples (internal sample bank loops have this option) or to map multi-samples to key regions. Also, you can't load samples directly from the AUv3, you need to go to the standalone app and create a bank there.
    This is why I'm still not moving from BeatMaker3, as their sampler is probably the most advanced one on iOS. I am really tired of the instability (and I'm not using IAAs as they're nearly unusable in BM3), also the sampler itself often causes crashes. There are still silly bugs which had been reported by many users, like first note in loop not triggered if you have sample set on hold and repeat, not to mention really cumbersome sequencer and chaotic navigation throughout the app. But still BM3 feels like the only complete studio in comparison to anything on iOS. I would love to switch to AUM+Xequence+AUv3 synthesisers, samplers and effects, but currently, it's very limiting.
    So yes, there is a huge gap on the market, as sampling is at least as used technique as sound synthesis. Yet the ratio of AUv3s is strongly in favour of synthesisers.
    And BTW @brambos @SevenSystems - love to see the developers of my two most loved apps/app suites to challenge themselves to fill this gap. Go on! Start some crowdfunding campaign if you need to! :smiley:

  • I’m hoping Egoist will be the next app to get the AU treatment from Sugar Bytes. I love the slicer in that. If it was AU it would make a huge difference to my workflow, and probably render a few other apps obsolete.

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