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  • MayoMayo

    Really looking forward to this.

  • slcrzslcrz

    @syrupcore said:

    @midiSequencer said:
    E.g. the start beat of every pad can be automated/controlled

    Wow. Want. Imagining a set of short sequences (like 4-8 notes) loaded onto each pad where the start position is automated by Rozeta Collider or Rozeta Rhythm or... Hello, lovely mayhem.

    This!

    @brambos Btw is there any plan for similair small midi recording audio unit device in the amazing Rozeta suite? :smile:

  • brambosbrambos

    @slcrz said:

    @syrupcore said:

    @midiSequencer said:
    E.g. the start beat of every pad can be automated/controlled

    Wow. Want. Imagining a set of short sequences (like 4-8 notes) loaded onto each pad where the start position is automated by Rozeta Collider or Rozeta Rhythm or... Hello, lovely mayhem.

    This!

    @brambos Btw is there any plan for similair small midi recording audio unit device in the amazing Rozeta suite? :smile:

    For now Rozeta is completed. It will get maintenance and minor updates, but I'm not planning on new functionality.

  • slcrzslcrz

    @brambos said:

    @slcrz said:

    @syrupcore said:

    @midiSequencer said:
    E.g. the start beat of every pad can be automated/controlled

    Wow. Want. Imagining a set of short sequences (like 4-8 notes) loaded onto each pad where the start position is automated by Rozeta Collider or Rozeta Rhythm or... Hello, lovely mayhem.

    This!

    @brambos Btw is there any plan for similair small midi recording audio unit device in the amazing Rozeta suite? :smile:

    For now Rozeta is completed. It will get maintenance and minor updates, but I'm not planning on new functionality.

    Of course amazing suite loving it!
    Maybe for a new app :)

  • WillWill

    @midiSequencer said:
    @syrupcore au trigger start/stop relates to trigger start of playing at the current midi file loaded into a pad at its currently defined start beat for a duration(also in beats).
    Therefore the clock is more the frequency you change that au parameter called ‘pad 1 trigger’. as the other settings (start beat, duration, transpose, tempo division) will also be parameters you choose how you chop up the midi file to play back sections.

    Got it, thanks. So to do the rozeta trick I was describing it will be about automating the pad's start position (maybe via LFO) and then sending "play" commands to retrigger the pad. Fun.

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @syrupcore said:
    Got it, thanks. So to do the rozeta trick I was describing it will be about automating the pad's start position (maybe via LFO) and then sending "play" commands to retrigger the pad. Fun.

    Thats how I see it working - there are options to sync the start of a pad play to immediate, beat or bar changes too.

    btw Will, you're on my beta list so should get a copy very soon!

  • WillWill

    @midiSequencer said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Got it, thanks. So to do the rozeta trick I was describing it will be about automating the pad's start position (maybe via LFO) and then sending "play" commands to retrigger the pad. Fun.

    Thats how I see it working - there are options to sync the start of a pad play to immediate, beat or bar changes too.

    Aha! Sweet. That what the bit I was failing at asking before. :)

    I can just wait until the beta or release to find this out since I'm gonna buy it no matter what but I'm curious how the AU parameter values for start position will relate to the clip's length. I assume 0 is always the beginning of the clip but is "1" always 1/127 and "2" always 2/127 of the total clip length (like MIDI CCs)? Or do specific AU Parameter values align to specific beats or bars or something if present (more like NRPNs)?

  • CracklePotCracklePot

    @midiSequencer said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Got it, thanks. So to do the rozeta trick I was describing it will be about automating the pad's start position (maybe via LFO) and then sending "play" commands to retrigger the pad. Fun.

    Thats how I see it working - there are options to sync the start of a pad play to immediate, beat or bar changes too.

    btw Will, you're on my beta list so should get a copy very soon!

    Is this similar to how it is implemented in Quantum already? Play only on note input?

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @syrupcore said:

    @midiSequencer said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Got it, thanks. So to do the rozeta trick I was describing it will be about automating the pad's start position (maybe via LFO) and then sending "play" commands to retrigger the pad. Fun.

    Thats how I see it working - there are options to sync the start of a pad play to immediate, beat or bar changes too.

    Aha! Sweet. That what the bit I was failing at asking before. :)

    I can just wait until the beta or release to find this out since I'm gonna buy it no matter what but I'm curious how the AU parameter values for start position will relate to the clip's length. I assume 0 is always the beginning of the clip but is "1" always 1/127 and "2" always 2/127 of the total clip length (like MIDI CCs)? Or do specific AU Parameter values align to specific beats or bars or something if present (more like NRPNs)?

    The start & duration are beat positions - AU Parameters are not byte ranges (0..127) like midi CCs.
    The value you send will need to relate to your midi file note positions (i.e. midi files internally store notes & events as floating point beat numbers like 1.25). I'm adding a Quantizer to 'round up' recorded notes to things like 1/4 beat intervals.

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @CracklePot said:

    @midiSequencer said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Got it, thanks. So to do the rozeta trick I was describing it will be about automating the pad's start position (maybe via LFO) and then sending "play" commands to retrigger the pad. Fun.

    Thats how I see it working - there are options to sync the start of a pad play to immediate, beat or bar changes too.

    btw Will, you're on my beta list so should get a copy very soon!

    Is this similar to how it is implemented in Quantum already? Play only on note input?

    Sort of - as far as one midi cc with data >0 triggers something, only here its an AU Parameter as a trigger.
    At the moment I'm not intending to use midi cc to drive Photon as the AUv3 environment has some apps already capable of doing this and in AUM for example you can map CCs or Notes to AU Parameters anyway.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @midiSequencer said:

    @CracklePot said:

    @midiSequencer said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Got it, thanks. So to do the rozeta trick I was describing it will be about automating the pad's start position (maybe via LFO) and then sending "play" commands to retrigger the pad. Fun.

    Thats how I see it working - there are options to sync the start of a pad play to immediate, beat or bar changes too.

    btw Will, you're on my beta list so should get a copy very soon!

    Is this similar to how it is implemented in Quantum already? Play only on note input?

    Sort of - as far as one midi cc with data >0 triggers something, only here its an AU Parameter as a trigger.
    At the moment I'm not intending to use midi cc to drive Photon as the AUv3 environment has some apps already capable of doing this and in AUM for example you can map CCs or Notes to AU Parameters anyway.

    Will photon be AUv3?

  • yowzayowza

    Yes

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @yowza said:
    Yes

    Awesome!👏

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @[Deleted User] said:

    Will photon be AUv3?

    Yes all my apps will be AUv3 now - no more IAA planned, although I'm soon starting on converting Quantum for the Mac

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @midiSequencer said:

    @[Deleted User] said:

    Will photon be AUv3?

    Yes all my apps will be AUv3 now - no more IAA planned, although I'm soon starting on converting Quantum for the Mac

    I think Quantum will do well on Mac 🙂

  • lovadamusiclovadamusic

    Not realizing this thread was about a new app coming, I just discovered and read through it. Maybe change the title?

    Photon - Midi Recorder looks super cool. The loop functions, step recorder, and groove quantize give it something new for me. While I'd like to see integrated MIDI editing (piano roll,) I think good export/import should suffice.

  • RajahPRajahP

    @lovadamusic said:
    Not realizing this thread was about a new app coming, I just discovered and read through it. Maybe change the title?

    Photon - Midi Recorder looks super cool. The loop functions, step recorder, and groove quantize give it something new for me. While I'd like to see integrated MIDI editing (piano roll,) I think good export/import should suffice.

    +1 for the Title change... and Scale/Key Transpose.. After release... please..🤫

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @lovadamusic said:
    Not realizing this thread was about a new app coming, I just discovered and read through it. Maybe change the title?

    Photon - Midi Recorder looks super cool. The loop functions, step recorder, and groove quantize give it something new for me. While I'd like to see integrated MIDI editing (piano roll,) I think good export/import should suffice.

    But then i’ll lose credit for starting this thread, im so proud 😆

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @midiSequencer said:

    @[Deleted User] said:

    Will photon be AUv3?

    Yes all my apps will be AUv3 now - no more IAA planned, although I'm soon starting on converting Quantum for the Mac

    Will it work in the FX slot within AUM since the FX slot can receive midi? Would be much tidier if possible.

  • PhilippePhilippe
    edited November 2018

    Don’t know yet if this was mentinned (read till page 7 so far) but many loopers that I know have this very clever function: the first recording of a session can be recorded without quantization watsoever and will become the reference for next recording by automatically setting the bpm of the session. Next loops can then be recorded quantized to it to fit either as a fraction or a multiple of the first loop lenght.
    Loopy and ableton audio looper work that way and I find it really essential for live looping improv of multiple loops.

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @breilly said:

    @lovadamusic said:
    Not realizing this thread was about a new app coming, I just discovered and read through it. Maybe change the title?

    Photon - Midi Recorder looks super cool. The loop functions, step recorder, and groove quantize give it something new for me. While I'd like to see integrated MIDI editing (piano roll,) I think good export/import should suffice.

    But then i’ll lose credit for starting this thread, im so proud 😆

    yes lets keep this thread :)

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @RajahP said:
    +1 for the Title change... and Scale/Key Transpose.. After release... please..🤫

    You have transpose. Any midi you record you can place in a pad. That pad can be transposed on playback or copied back to the main buffer (so you can save it etc).

    Scale might come later or a different app(not sure yet) - don't want this one getting too big - it needs to record, do some basic manipulation & playback(in pads).

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @[Deleted User] said:

    @midiSequencer said:

    @[Deleted User] said:

    Will photon be AUv3?

    Yes all my apps will be AUv3 now - no more IAA planned, although I'm soon starting on converting Quantum for the Mac

    Will it work in the FX slot within AUM since the FX slot can receive midi? Would be much tidier if possible.

    At the moment no - Jonatan is still working on this I think - I will ask him.

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @Philippe said:
    Don’t know yet if this was mentinned (read till page 7 so far) but many loopers that I know have this very clever function: the first recording of a session can be recorded without quantization watsoever and will become the reference for next recording by automatically setting the bpm of the session. Next loops can then be recorded quantized to it to fit either as a fraction or a multiple of the first loop lenght.
    Loopy and ableton audio looper work that way and I find it really essential for live looping improv of multiple loops.

    sounds interesting. Currently I'm taking bpm from host rather than detecting beats in played notes.

  • jaymoreayajaymoreaya

    I keep on coming across situations in my AUM jams that have me wishing photon was available to capture my ideas on the fly.

    Any chance you could give a general updated ETA for release? Are we looking at weeks away or months away?

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @jaymoreaya said:
    I keep on coming across situations in my AUM jams that have me wishing photon was available to capture my ideas on the fly.

    Any chance you could give a general updated ETA for release? Are we looking at weeks away or months away?

    weeks only :)

  • RajahPRajahP

    @midiSequencer said:

    @RajahP said:
    +1 for the Title change... and Scale/Key Transpose.. After release... please..🤫

    You have transpose. Any midi you record you can place in a pad. That pad can be transposed on playback or copied back to the main buffer (so you can save it etc).

    Scale might come later or a different app(not sure yet) - don't want this one getting too big - it needs to record, do some basic manipulation & playback(in pads).

    Great.. looking forward to it..

  • wimwim

    Yeh. I’ve managed to curb my enthusiasm for all future-things on iOS, and to just be happy with the here and now.

    Except for this one. Can’t wait.

  • midiSequencermidiSequencer

    @wim said:
    Yeh. I’ve managed to curb my enthusiasm for all future-things on iOS, and to just be happy with the here and now.

    Except for this one. Can’t wait.

    I'm working on it!

  • wimwim
    edited November 2018

    Take your time. B)

    Considering I wanted something like this so much I was starting to learn iOS programming to build something like it, until you picked up the ball, I’m still going to come out at least a year ahead.

    And it will probably actually work. ;)

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