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  • BTW, midi echo is super cool. 👍

  • @wim said:
    Take your time. B)

    Considering I wanted something like this so much I was starting to learn iOS programming to build something like it, until you picked up the ball, I’m still going to come out at least a year ahead.

    And it will probably actually work. ;)

    go for it - we need more midi utilities..... I built MidiSequencer/Quantum on the back of Little Midi Machine

  • @wim said:
    BTW, midi echo is super cool. 👍

    glad you liked it - It was more for me proving I can do this, so now I have a template (but had to rework Photon quite a bit)

  • wimwim
    edited November 2018

    The only thing that tripped me up on midi echo was the knobs. It was OK once I drilled myself down into the settings app to change them to up/down behavior, but if I hadn’t read you could do that here I would have not been happy. Once you get used to your default concept of how knobs should work, it works pretty well, but it’s just so non-standard that personally I think you should default to up/down, or at least be sure to have the settings option front and center in the app.

    Just thought I’d throw that out there as a way to maybe avoid some first-reaction bad reviews of Photon from people who don’t drill into the details before firing off negative comments.

  • edited November 2018

    @wim said:
    The only thing that tripped me up on midi echo was the knobs. It was OK once I drilled myself down into the settings app to change them to up/down behavior, but if I hadn’t read you could do that here I would have not been happy. Once you get used to your default concept of how knobs should work, it works pretty well, but it’s just so non-standard that personally I think you should default to up/down, or at least be sure to have the settings option front and center in the app.

    Just thought I’d throw that out there as a way to maybe avoid some first-reaction bad reviews of Photon from people who don’t drill into the details before firing off negative comments.

    Quantum has follow the finger mode, hence to me it was more natural.
    Audiokit had this too, but they changed to a up/down/left/right approach.
    My first version of midi echo needed a serious rewrite of audiokit code to get it to work well with various ranges, negative numbers, and different sized controls.

    At least its in the manual now though....

  • @midiSequencer said:

    @wim said:
    The only thing that tripped me up on midi echo was the knobs. It was OK once I drilled myself down into the settings app to change them to up/down behavior, but if I hadn’t read you could do that here I would have not been happy. Once you get used to your default concept of how knobs should work, it works pretty well, but it’s just so non-standard that personally I think you should default to up/down, or at least be sure to have the settings option front and center in the app.

    Just thought I’d throw that out there as a way to maybe avoid some first-reaction bad reviews of Photon from people who don’t drill into the details before firing off negative comments.

    Quantum has follow the finger mode, hence to me it was more natural.
    Audiokit had this too, but they changed to a up/down/left/right approach.
    My first version of midi echo needed a serious rewrite of audiokit code to get it to work well with various ranges, negative numbers, and different sized controls.

    At least its in the manual now though....

    Yeh, once you get the idea of touching the knob then moving your finger away from the knob to “turn” it, it works OK. But it’s so different than the de-facto up/down behavior for knobs that it really throws me off, and I expect I’m not alone in that.

  • edited November 2018

    Not going to get this app out to you by Thanksgiving but wanted to tell you why.....
    I've added a grid display of notes - it updates in realtime - stretches to fit the width & height - as you record notes or step record or load in a file.
    Need to add some more controls on this though (ranges, show groove or buffer etc)
    Note : you can step record over a realtime recording - I've also added step note duration.

    This is a recording of me playing an external keyboard (I like trills) - it played back as imperfectly as I played!

  • @midiSequencer said:
    Not going to get this app out to you by Thanksgiving but wanted to tell you why.....
    I've added a grid display of notes - it updates in realtime - stretches to fit the width & height - as you record notes or step record or load in a file.
    Need to add some more controls on this though (ranges, show groove or buffer etc)
    Note : you can step record over a realtime recording - I've also added step note duration.

    This is a recording of me playing an external keyboard (I like trills) - it played back as imperfectly as I played!

    Looks cool, it’s great to see midi AU going mainstream now a must for any future and existing DAWs.

  • @Jumpercollins said:
    Looks cool, it’s great to see midi AU going mainstream now a must for any future and existing DAWs.

    My focus DAW atm is AUM - waiting for others to catchup.
    If there are any particular DAWs (that support AUv3 midi) you want me to check let me know.

  • @midiSequencer said:
    Not going to get this app out to you by Thanksgiving but wanted to tell you why.....
    I've added a grid display of notes - it updates in realtime - stretches to fit the width & height - as you record notes or step record or load in a file.
    Need to add some more controls on this though (ranges, show groove or buffer etc)
    Note : you can step record over a realtime recording - I've also added step note duration.

    This is a recording of me playing an external keyboard (I like trills) - it played back as imperfectly as I played!

    Noticed you got some polyphony action going on, what is the max polyphony for photon?

  • @midiSequencer said:
    Not going to get this app out to you by Thanksgiving but wanted to tell you why.....
    I've added a grid display of notes - it updates in realtime - stretches to fit the width & height - as you record notes or step record or load in a file.
    Need to add some more controls on this though (ranges, show groove or buffer etc)
    Note : you can step record over a realtime recording - I've also added step note duration.

    This is a recording of me playing an external keyboard (I like trills) - it played back as imperfectly as I played!

    Your making dreams come true🙏🏻

  • @[Deleted User] said:
    Noticed you got some polyphony action going on, what is the max polyphony for photon?

    128 per midi channel - i.e. its not limited - it just records whatever midi message it receives (all except sysex - so program changes, cc, nrpn, rpn, pitchbend, aftertouch etc).

    The idea is that this app is primarily a recorder for you to capture ideas. Secondary functions are pad playback, groove quantisation & step record.

  • @breilly said:
    Your making dreams come true🙏🏻

    thats for you to do - your virtuoso playing (or quantum sequencing) needs to be captured & shared yes?
    Only thing I can't do with the initial version is import midi files (its not possible in AUv3 apps without writing a document server - so that comes later.

  • Great news, can't wait for this :) Yes having the visual really helps.

  • @midiSequencer said:
    Not going to get this app out to you by Thanksgiving but wanted to tell you why.....
    I've added a grid display of notes - it updates in realtime - stretches to fit the width & height - as you record notes or step record or load in a file.
    Need to add some more controls on this though (ranges, show groove or buffer etc)
    Note : you can step record over a realtime recording - I've also added step note duration.

    This is a recording of me playing an external keyboard (I like trills) - it played back as imperfectly as I played!

    Any chance something like Genomes remix pad can be implemented in future?
    That's the single thing I miss the most from Genome.

    Around 1:40... single touch loops the note (or notes if poly) according to the grid, two fingers set loop start/end.

  • So looking forward to this!

  • @midiSequencer said:

    @[Deleted User] said:
    Noticed you got some polyphony action going on, what is the max polyphony for photon?

    128 per midi channel - i.e. its not limited - it just records whatever midi message it receives (all except sysex - so program changes, cc, nrpn, rpn, pitchbend, aftertouch etc).

    The idea is that this app is primarily a recorder for you to capture ideas. Secondary functions are pad playback, groove quantisation & step record.

    Perfect 👌

  • Nice updates! Looking good @midiSequencer !

  • This is right up my alley. Looks much more intuitive for the uneducated musician like me. Quantum, I can tell is powerful but overwhelms me due to complexity. I have no music theory background, I just love making beats. Can we trade in on this to fit our style?

  • @midiSequencer said:
    Not going to get this app out to you by Thanksgiving but wanted to tell you why.....
    I've added a grid display of notes - it updates in realtime - stretches to fit the width & height - as you record notes or step record or load in a file.
    Need to add some more controls on this though (ranges, show groove or buffer etc)
    Note : you can step record over a realtime recording - I've also added step note duration.

    This is a recording of me playing an external keyboard (I like trills) - it played back as imperfectly as I played!

    Niiiice!!

  • @recccp said:

    Any chance something like Genomes remix pad can be implemented in future?
    That's the single thing I miss the most from Genome.

    Around 1:40... single touch loops the note (or notes if poly) according to the grid, two fingers set loop start/end.

    added to my list

  • @Breezee said:
    This is right up my alley. Looks much more intuitive for the uneducated musician like me. Quantum, I can tell is powerful but overwhelms me due to complexity. I have no music theory background, I just love making beats. Can we trade in on this to fit our style?

    its quantum - just pick a scale & draw - no music theory needed! But its aimed at loops as steps. This app is aimed a recording realtime.

  • wimwim
    edited November 2018

    @midiSequencer said:

    @Jumpercollins said:
    Looks cool, it’s great to see midi AU going mainstream now a must for any future and existing DAWs.

    My focus DAW atm is AUM - waiting for others to catchup.
    If there are any particular DAWs (that support AUv3 midi) you want me to check let me know.

    AudioBus!

    After that, as long as it plays back in other hosts, I’m good. Or, even if not. Cubasis, BM3, and AudioEvolution Mobile seem to support AUv3 midi pretty well. Auria Pro isn’t working right yet, so probably not worth the time to look at until that’s sorted.

  • edited November 2018

    @midiSequencer
    Maybe it's been asked/answered before...
    How will it handle midi channels?
    Ch/instance, ch/pad or omni/pad (so 4x16 in single instance)?

  • Aimed at loops as steps? Man, I must be dense. Can you link to me a video where Quantum is used to start loops as steps? Please. This sounds awesome.

    The manual describes using it to power other synths, such as Moog Model D, which isn’t a loop driven app. Each step is defined by the note you program it to play, So, to me it seems as it is aimed at pre-programming steps to play synths, not loops.

    Also, where is the “drawing” taking place that you describe? Are you meaning you use the sliders to adjust pitch, and other parameters? Doesn’t seem like drawing to me, but drawing has never been my forte’

    Would love some guidance though on the above discussion on how to better utilize its features.

  • This will be the one, bumping, any news?

  • @midiSequencer said:

    @Breezee said:
    This is right up my alley. Looks much more intuitive for the uneducated musician like me. Quantum, I can tell is powerful but overwhelms me due to complexity. I have no music theory background, I just love making beats. Can we trade in on this to fit our style?

    its quantum - just pick a scale & draw - no music theory needed! But its aimed at loops as steps. This app is aimed a recording realtime.

    Still looking for a response. . . . . . . .

  • Yep, the wait is torture.. :'(

  • @Breezee said:

    @midiSequencer said:

    @Breezee said:
    This is right up my alley. Looks much more intuitive for the uneducated musician like me. Quantum, I can tell is powerful but overwhelms me due to complexity. I have no music theory background, I just love making beats. Can we trade in on this to fit our style?

    its quantum - just pick a scale & draw - no music theory needed! But its aimed at loops as steps. This app is aimed a recording realtime.

    Still looking for a response. . . . . . . .

    You have to turn the music up load to hear Tony's voice but this should give you the idea

  • @recccp said:
    @midiSequencer
    Maybe it's been asked/answered before...
    How will it handle midi channels?
    Ch/instance, ch/pad or omni/pad (so 4x16 in single instance)?

    Midi channels are just recorded directly to the midi file format. You can filter out recording to just one midi channel or record all. so yes 4 pads x 16 channels.

    Later I might add an option to split channels to tracks & manipulate the recorded midi file more.

    Pads will be controlled using AU Parameters (complete set per pad). AUM allows midi CC or note mapping to these, so this is the easiest way to control them.

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