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Says so much in one photo.
Marcus Hobbs (Wilsonic) / Jason D (iPad Loops / DJ Puzzle) / Shazaam the iPad Producer
Man I got a sneak peak at AudioKits Synths in AUv3 mode video coming soon
Some IOS NAMM related videos as well for you guys too
For the iPad it definitely is, the M32 has neither Bluetooth nor MIDI ports nor an audio interface built-in that would justify giving up the CCK USB port.
That moment when you realise that someone else is making your product better than you do...
The head of Behringer is both an engineer and a musician who wants people to be happy with their products.
It doesn't look like that's the case @ KORG.
Korg have consistently produced innovative & great sounding instruments at competitive prices for over 50 years, not sure why that deserves a bashing?
I’m unsure what that picture is supposed to be showing me, besides a ghost playing a synth in the background.
It's a photo of (admittedly funny as F**k) a korg rep, grimacing at the new Behringer korg odyssey rip off.........
Ah thanks. Now I understand.
+1
Korg continues to be a historically great, innovative company both in the hardware world and on iOS.
That being said, Behringer has come out of nowhere to become a tough competitor with their synth division.
I purchased the Deepmind 12D in December when I saw the price dropped to $600. I wasn’t in the market for a hardware analog synth, but I felt like it shouldn’t be passed up for the price. I traded in my Korg Poly-61 for the Deepmind 12D and gave it a shot. It’s an absolutely incredible, powerful synth for the price. IMO it’s the best deal in the hardware synth world by far right now.
If anything, I think Behringer could possibly make Korg step up their game even more to compete with Behringer’s features and value.
I am interested to see more original Behringer synths like the Deepmind and Neutron.
You're right, sorry, being dissatisfied with a few products does not justify questioning a brand in general. It's good to have both in fact
The deepmind 12 is indeed an incredible value. Got the Neutron and Dm12D at same time late last year, absolutely thrilled with both.. TBH I’ve spent a bit more time on Neutron so far — my skill with modular and synth programming has expanded a great deal thanks to that thing— it’s a blast. looking forward to expanding the possibilities by either adding a new semi modular to the mix or perhaps a couple modules (Maths and ES maybe?) ..
Speaking of Deepmind 12, just noticed on Rick Beatos interview at Chris Lord-Alge’s studio from last week, that Chris has the DM12 prominently placed in his personal music studio. Cool to see it appreciated by the pros
One of the funniest photo's I've seen in a while tho!
I've also got my fair share of Behringer gear as well........i think they may be a bit behind the curve with this one tho..........looks like Spectrosonics Omnisphere software/hardware hybrid is looking more like the future.....
Taking photos to give to the Korg legal department perhaps? Certainly doesn’t look like a happy camper.
I understand the intellectual property rights on the synth architecture itself has expired on many of these classic synths, but does the same hold true for their case design/aesthetics?
I love that I’m able to afford these classic synths thanks to Behringer, but I’m slightly conflicted about it. It almost seems like they should differentiate the industrial design a bit instead of copying everything, name and all.
Weren't KORG the first ones to copy the original Odyssey?
@rs2000 : Behringer largely rips off other people's designs. He can charge low prices as he doesn't have the R&D costs required to develop new and innovative products. He is not some genius hero with a heart of gold.
Has anybody still got room for these huge slabs of metal & plastic? I get the nostalgia thing about owning an original vintage synth, but unless your in a gigging band and need to look good, what's the point in owning one of these Behringer clones? I'd rather have the real odyssey clone which is Korgs' software version in ios/au/vst format with a decent midi controller.
Off topic of the NAMM 2019 topic but my goodness, my favorite soccer club Feyenoord just trashed our eternal opponent Ajax with 6-2. Van Persie was again fabulous. What a match!
fair point
I guess I should spend some time on vintage synth explorer.. didn’t realize the Odyssey went so far back.
I’ve been through that debate in my mind for quite a few years now... On one hand, software is “good enough” ...but I finally decided to give HW a go last year, even though I have over a thousand invested in software synths on various platforms.
I can say without a doubt that it sounds somewhat better - as analog should..but the biggest benefit is the hands on feel of a REAL instrument ..I’ve got knobs on midi controllers of course, but it’s not the same as patching a real cable and programming and adjusting a HW synth in real time...I find it more freeing & creatively inspirational than dealing with mouse and keyboard all the time.
I also have delusions of granduer of actually making money with this some day, so hopefully will get some live gigging use out of it eventually too..but even if it was forever a home hobby, it’s simply more fun than software... your mileage may vary.
It's the Clone Wars!
I believe that Korg either purchased ARP or licensed the technology and manufacturing rights and basically save ARP from going out of business. One of the ARP co-founders is still involved.
I'm sure Behringer did the same thing. Yeah.....
Nope. KORG bought ARP’s ip. Their Odyssey isn’t a clone/copy.
I'm not at all convinced i can tell the difference anymore. Working at 24/96 makes a huge difference in quality with soft synths. I do have a really nice modern (small) analogue synth to play with here,and it sounds amazing on it's own, but once it's recorded as part of a track i'm not sure if anyone could tell the difference. I do have some nice midi controllers though, including the Korg MS20 ic, which does make playing soft synths a lot more fun..........I would love a room full of hardware synths like everyone else, but my studio is also my living room & my bedroom, that way my teenage son gets to have his own room!!!!!!
Can you provide a link to this happening ?
Would be interesting to read.
Both are known to me as abandonning their product once they hit the marked resutling in unpolished and unfinished OS, too busy working on the next thing. ES2, monologue and Deepmind 12 couldn’t be qualified as finished imho.