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I understand the sting...bought it a week ago as at full price as well. iOS pricing is funny, and I try to see it as a win some/lose some situation. I paid an “extra” $13 Canadian for Nano, but hey...I once paid $2 for DRC, etc.
I try to only purchase apps at prices that I feel are fair to me, otherwise, yes, you could certainly get a tad frustrated with app pricing.
Love Nano 2 so far, for what it’s worth.
I know what you are talkimg about
Matt was bothering me with NS2 promocode all the time but i refused too - i bought app as normal user after release :-) (including all IAPs, because i have also huge respect to @StevePAL who made all IAPs, i made probably just around 220 factory patches but even that was hell lot of work - i still cannot understand how he managed to make all that IAP goodness alone !! )
Yeah just main app is discounted, not IAPs
OK. I'll make the jump for this short term savings and add IAP's after I learn something about this YAD (Yet Another DAW). It's not really a DAW without audio but Matt's working on it so sometime this year or next in the worst case.
Got all the YAD's yet?
Same here. I have literally every single one :-)) Can't even think how much i spend on apps since i started in 2011. Nany hundreds € ? For sure. Few thousands ? Probably yes.
I'll never understand how someone can blame a dev for discounting an app after they've bought it for more. It makes no sense. It has nothing whatsoever to do with how rich or poor people are. You choose to buy something because the price is worth it to you at that moment. No matter what it costs tomorrow, it's still worth what you paid for it. You can't resell it. So sure, it would have been cool to get it for less, but that's life. Be happy for those who get the discount. Hope the sale works for the dev so they're more likely to keep working on the app. You think the dev would not rather get the full price for it? They're discounting it for a reason and, believe it or not, it's not to piss you off personally.
This discounted price, is what this app should cost at full price. It's very unusable for my workflow as I'm not using samples to create beats
With the future updates coming, then it'll be worth the original 30$ usd
Hearing iphone before audio tracks makes me think audio tracks may be delayed.
Oh yes 🤝
Pretty sure this was the plan all along so I don’t think it factors in.
Pops in because he’s been tagged, notes the hostile, pack-like mentally, leaves.
what this guy said ^^ ;-) work on iPhone version is going exactly like planned, zero delay
...I’ve been hurt before...
So what you're saying is that you didn't make a wise buying decision, or you bought it at the price gambling that it will one day meet your needs? If it's unusable for you, how are you arriving at what the full price should be today? $20 for unusable sounds a little steep.
The seller prices the app based on what they think the market will bear. The market determines what the price should actually be. It's apparent that some of us think NS2, as it is, is worth the full price, but maybe the market isn't there for it. Hence, the discount. In any case, it doesn't look promising for iOS.
This is right on the money.
This made me lolz.
It's never personal except when it is. Then it's hard to take.
"Eats Shoots and Leaves" vs "Eats, Shoots and Leaves".
Should a developer ever discount an App to grab a few more clients? Should they telegraph the incoming event and stop all sales and maximize those who benefit while the developer does not for disclosing the price drop? Should we demand refunds or code for free IAP's? Or do we just vent and get back to your business?
Lumbeats never discounts until he did and I bought the sale product for 50% off and 5 more related products at full price.
Pre-disclosing details about products is NEVER a great idea.
Drambo soon? Discounted for pain and suffering? Or full price with a discount at a later stage of roll out? Probably #2. Run the numbers. Which pays the developer more?
AutoCAD played the ultimate game... allowed copies of AutoCAD to be made after sale and then went to big co's saying that hundreds of users had boot-legged copies and the copamny needed to make AutoCAD whole. Not sure they intended this but it made them a Top Tier App vendor overnight. They got new CEO that said "Why is everyone using the software without paying for it?"
We get the best deal on the Internet barring the Open Source value prop. Imagine the feeling if a desktop app costing $200 did this to you.
Was planing on waiting until audio tracks were added but yeah, I jumped at the sale. Sooooo....after tinkering for a few hours, theres a lot to like about it , but there are things Id like to see, like audio tracks of course, and some better sampler features like time stretching/pitching and a couple other things, all of which I can wait for and do in BM3. But what I need ASAP is support for a sustain pedal, I NEEEEDDDDDDD that for acoustic/electric piano sounds and au's. And right up there with it is to be able to use the modulation wheel on my midi keyboard. Aside from that Id say grab while its on sale.
This sounds like a job for a Streambyter script. Detect the sustain pedal down and store all note off events until the pedal is released and send them in a batch.
I wonder it it exists. If not not it's probably a 15 minute exercise for @_Ki.
@_Ki: can you code this up. Save/block the note offs and send them in a batch if Sustain Up occurs?
Of course you have to buy StreamByter AU or MidiFire to take advantage of the workaround and copy in the script once it's created and published.
Based on its current capabilities 20$ is a much better price for it, in comparing to other apps in its category.
I would prefer to just have purchase obsidien as an auv3 synth and not have it hosted in the ns environment..
Just that would be a better fit for how I get creative... Did I say un usable sounds or did you??
There are great sounds here and slate can be fun all though I'll probably never use it... It is still a great thing that lots of people will enjoy and use..
Had I known I couldn't open the keyboard of my synth while in effects or mixing screen I never would have purchased it,...
Its got great potential as a groove box like app and for those who use external keyboards, but with a few missing features like keyboard access, 30 is more than I feel it's worth to my way of working.
Its pretty stable I've only had about 4 crashes..
And it can make great noise.. Obsidien is an excellent synth,
Lol at the ignorance and sh**ty attitude of his reply as I never said unusable sounds
Read it as ‘...unusable, sounds...’.
or replace the word ‘sounds’ with ‘seems’
Shame it's not doing so well, hate to see someone's years of work go unappreciated, but agree with the $20 price point as it is. Lacks too many simple things, not just audio tracks, to be in development for so long, and it hasn't had an update yet. It's still overall a good app.
... Scratches head in puzzlement that comments in simple disagreement, which simply happen to outnumber comments in agreement, should be perceived as hostility and pack behavior? I musta not read the thread carefully enough.
A lot of fine people wanted to pay even more to support Matt @ blipinteractive for his dedication to NS2, and the ones who didn't purchase yet now have one more reason to buy. I did, and I'm happy I did, it's true that Obsidian is a masterpiece and a joy to program.
@oat_phipps “Not doing so well”? You sure? Sorry to read that and I’m surprised considering all the hooplah.
@dendy :: Good to hear that there are some big things planned this year . Seems as if it’s been somewhat quiet at the blip end of things lately . I’m heartened by your comment
Yeah, don't make mistake by thinking Matt is now on Bahamas on beach drinking mochito
He is working hard, on short also long term tasks. Good things will come. Some sooner, some later, but as i said plans for this years are impressive and from what i see "behind the scenes" i'm pretty much convinced they will be fulfilled 
This is complicated topic. You can never satisfy all users. Price is always very subjective topic, features crucial for one users are worthless for other user. There are some diadvantages compared to opther competitors, but on other side there are some clear adantages and unique features not present in any other DAW.
It's on everybody to choose what is important what not, but i think discussing price, which one is "right", is a bit unfair, or unworthy (if it sounds offensive then sorry, definitle not mean it that way).
I bought other DAW (will not name it just to avoid flame) just to try it but it's literally useless for my workflow, lacking a lot for me key features, so for me even $5 would be too much. But i still don't think real price is wrong. It's simply just me who have different needs that target audience of that app. Actually it is ridiculously cheap for what it does, like basically almost ALL apps in appstore. Apps in appstores should cost LOT more.
Maybe appstore should contain "demo app" feature which would allow users to try app for limited period of time without paying. This will remove lot of disappointment. But actually Apple is only one player in all this apps game who is actually not interested in anything else that increasing revenue
Would be interesting to know why exactly. What kind of features you're mising except of those related to sampling (obviously timestretch and classic way of slicing, or non destructuve starte/end/loop points editing), or audiotracks of course ? Such feedback is always helpful !
Well @dendy it's not hard to decode which DAW you were referring to with your less-than-kind words above. I'm just pleased that we can have different needs and both be completely catered for in our iOS DAW choices.
It does illustrate how seemingly similar apps can divide opinion and devotion so intensely, so I've chosen to put this in verse...
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'DAW wars', by tk32
"Your trash remains my treasure,
Your cage becomes my door,
Your poison is my perfume,
And your ceiling is my floor."
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(I think NS2 is brilliant, by the way, just not replacing that other DAW for me personally anytime soon)