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NanoStudio 2 on sale
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WHOA! 240 comments on a sale??
And we STILL can’t be certain if it’s a good thing or not...
Give us 10 more pages and check back.
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I believe other people can strongly disagree and post their disagreement with my opinion. Here’s the original sentence.
@InfoCheck said:
People such as @MonzoPro get no sympathy from me when they express buyers remorse over an app that’s now on sale.
That’s probably a good thing and I’m probably too pessimistic in this regard.
No, I’m no fan of being passive aggressive. It’s a question I ask myself as I know I can’t control what other people post here, I can only evaluate how and if I want to continue to participate here.
Post away.
If you bought it recently, get a refund from iTunes (refund doesn't delete the app). Then repurchase it at the sale price if you want it.
Only if you bought it within 14 days. This sale turned up 15 days after I bought it.
That's very kind to developer - if you return app, apple still leaves it's 30% and developers gets back just rest - 60% of price. Now you buy it again discounted to 60% of full price - apple again charges 30% from that price ...
Biggest winner in this re-buy pingpong is Apple
Apple s always the biggest winner
(Where do the 10 missing %% go?)
Yes but sometimes less, sometimes more .. not saying i didn't returend app few times - mostly because of lack of some features - but after i found that 30% stays always in Apple's pocket, i'm avoiding this ...
😂😂 I can but it's not worth my time or yours.
To which you also added: "If you don’t like some of the user posts in response to when you express those sentiments, you could avoid them by keeping them to yourself."
I think your definition of 'strongly disagree', differs from mine, and pretty much everyone I know.
I'm all for a debate, but when someone jumps in from nowhere with the sole intention of stirring up trouble, and makes personal attacks, well that's just classic trolling. In the case of my recent experience they didn't even share their different perspective on the subject - they just made rude personal comments.
You think that's ok? Well I have to strongly disagree. Hiding behind a keyboard and making snarky comments has nothing to do with sharing opinions, it's just plain rude.
Edit: Oops sorry wrong Forum!
In my opinion Nanostudio should never have been released as is, it is no where near a complete product and the user experience is very jumbled, this sale so close to release is no surprise to me for those exact reasons.
Just trying to get back on topic.
That’s interesting! For me personally, for straight up composition and song writing, I haven’t opened anything else since I bought it. I still use BM3 for finger drumming, I use Auxy on my phone when i’m out and about, I use AUM for playing around with creating samples/textures, but I haven’t felt like NS2 is no where near complete for me to use as my DAW. I will preface that to say, the style of music that I write is not sample based. I’m not chopping up loops or doing vocals. I do like to take Streemur and sample stuff off the internet and chop it into BM3 kits to play live, but i’m not writing whole songs around it. So far I’m fully able to write complete songs without whatever things are missing and I’ve been pleased with the results.
Would I like audio tracks? Sure, I guess, but I don’t really use them in my workflow on any daw, iOS or desktop. In Ableton Live, I’m 90% MIDI and the audio I do use is loops I sample with whatever i’m creating within Ableton Live and sampling back into clips or pads, which is the same workflow I use in NS2. As for user experience, it’s more intuitive sitting down in 3 days than I had with 3 days on any other daw. That’s one of the main reasons i’m still using it.
So about the sale, I think the 30 dollar regular price is more than accurate. It also includes Obsidian which is an amazing synth/sample player in its own right. Coupled with using that as my “workhorse” synth and a smattering of other AU’s for specific things, the initial price i would pay again and again. My belief in why it went on sale has nothing to do with any of that, it’s because of Marketing:
It’s a good idea to grab some impulse buys from people that would never buy the app in the first place, but might want a groovebox (
) to play with and make some beatz. IMO, absolutely nothing wrong with that because Stuff mag has a ton of readers. If he can pickup sales from that demographic, then he would be wise to do what he did. It’s the right thing for his business.
Plus, for me personally, by paying full price I’ve gotten to spend 100+ more hours with the product already that I wouldn’t have if I waited for a sale. IMO, that would have been a bad decision.
It is interesting how people can have such divergent opinions on the value of an object though. One man’s trash, another’s treasure. I’m not saying you are wrong, @Turntablist, I’m just saying that in my experience personal workflow is the narrative of value. I respect if you don’t see value in NS2.
You guys are like a cult. Or Amway salesmen. It's a little bit weird, and the more you offer your assurances the more unhinged it seems.
The last time I used audio tracks in any DAW on any platform is exactly never days ago.
What assurances? And what am I selling?
You don't count.
Proud pleeb here.
I think people can be more or less considerate or relevant in their approach to how they post.
When I post something, I don’t intend to stir things up but sometimes people are offended by what I say.
To be honest, if people in my opinion are too rude, I don’t believe they’ll be open to persuasion so I don’t feel a need to respond to their comments. I don’t expect other people to approach these issues the same way I do. They’re entitled to respond however they see fit. I would prefer a more considerate approach but I have no control over that and have zero interest in trying to regulate their conduct. Whenever I make suggestions or give my opinion, people will do whatever they want with it.
Perhaps I’m too jaded and don’t care enough about what people say so I might not be such a nice person when it comes right down to it.
Yeah I couldn't argue at all from your point of view, the feeling of being incomplete comes from the instrumentation side, with the lack of audio tracks a much more robust sample/effect implementation is needed by me and many others.
Don't get me wrong here, Nanostudio is very obviously the most feature complete DAW on IOS per feature, by which I mean each feature that is complete is superb, in fact near perfect, but if you take ten perfect meals and stir them in a pot you are unlikely to get the best meal, this is exactly how Nanostudio feels to a lot of people right now, I am going by feedback on more mainstream networks like KVRAudio and Gearslutz and so on, not threads that get drowned very quickly by DAW Wars foot soldiers.
If you have litlle use for audio tracks or little use for sampling and are willing to get over some UI decisions that look like they have been made with phone in mind, then Nanostudio is hard to beat on any platform.
PS I didn't mean that the sale has come simply because of lack of features by the way, after reading its reception outside of these niche walls, I am not convinced it has yet had a huge impact and paid back the developer what he rightly deserves, so a sale makes perfect sense if it brings in outliers, because with all IAPs Nanostudio is desktop pricing, that is no easy push.
Fair enough. The problem being, if everyone tolerates personal attacks on themselves and others, then it starts to become the norm.
I react to that stuff not only when it’s directed at myself, but when I see others ganged up on and attacked.
Just the way I am, but we’re all different.
Let’s agree to disagree and leave it there, even I’m sick of this thread now.