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Koala - the ultimate pocket-sized sampler

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  • Oh I had no idea you can slide side to side to slowly adjust the pitch this helps a lot!

  • Btw, the modern time-stretching mode compares favorably with BeatMaker 3.

    See: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/928845/#Comment_928845

  • @krassmann said:
    Hi would like to bring back the multi-out topic back on the table... @elf_audio, look how people do crazy workarounds that abuse the stereo out as two mono channels by doing splitting and stuff in AUM. No chance for let's say 8 outs?

    Crazy workarounds are fun though. It reminds me of working with hardware samplers. Shouts to Senz for using the double the tempo to increase the resolution hack. An MPC favourite. Not used that one since I sold my PO33KO

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  • @elf_audio I’ve made some longer things with the step editor recently, and its pretty solid! There is one small issue though: when modifying the length of a note, or moving it, sometimes the note is deleted when lifting the pen or finger from the screen. Maybe a buglet? Its more a slower-downer than a showstopper, but its still a bit of friction.

  • @ehehehe said:
    Going back to BeatHawk hasn’t been very fun compared to this, having to cut samples first in Hokusai 2 and importing one-hits.. Drambo next! Any suggestions for a destructive sampler with Koala-simplicity and efficiency that runs as an AU? Any future plans @elf_audio ?

    Many of us hope that @elf_audio steps forward with some kind of AU companion to Koala.

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    @elf_audio Would it be possible in a future update to have an option where you can change the pitch in tones, as well as by cent? Or if that's not possible, a simple sine wave tone we can tune to?

  • @Hypervox said:
    @elf_audio Would it be possible in a future update to have an option where you can change the pitch in tones, as well as by cent? Or if that's not possible, a simple sine wave tone we can tune to?

    If I understand your request, I think the feature in in the settings/options.

    Look in SETTINGS -> GENERAL
    There's a option for "Pitch knob snap to semitone"

    But maybe you want to fine tune the whole app above or below A=440. I don't see that
    option... you have to tune by cents for every sample.

  • @McD Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou....... B)

  • edited April 2021

    Has anyone had any luck triggering koala from ns2 via midi? I've tried using AUM as an intermediary but it doesn't seem to work...

  • How do you know what note you are playing in the keyboard mode?

  • edited April 2021

    @Hypervox said:
    Has anyone had any luck triggering koala from ns2 via midi? I've tried using AUM as an intermediary but it doesn't seem to work...

    Ignore me - worked it out. For some reason ns2 starts it's mapping at c1 where xequence started at c3 :D

  • @Hypervox said:

    @Hypervox said:
    Has anyone had any luck triggering koala from ns2 via midi? I've tried using AUM as an intermediary but it doesn't seem to work...

    Ignore me - worked it out. For some reason ns2 starts it's mapping at c1 where xequence started at c3 :D

    Remember that octave numbering is not standardized in MIDI. MIDI uses numbers from 0-127 and since MIDI began different manufacturers have used different octave numbering. Middle C is always note 60, but some apps and hardware call note 0, C-2. Some call if C-1 and some C0.

  • My 6 year old asked if a song was the beach boys, I said no, it's using a sample of someone else who sounds like them.

    "What's sampling?" he asked?

    5 mins later I had him in koala, me doing minimal prompting, he's just feeling his way around the interface.

    1 hour later he was still at it, making nightmare loops from his voice, the dog, his brother, FX everywhere; he's having a ball.

    I think he understands sampling now. Great app, thanks!

  • @matte said:
    My 6 year old asked if a song was the beach boys, I said no, it's using a sample of someone else who sounds like them.

    "What's sampling?" he asked?

    5 mins later I had him in koala, me doing minimal prompting, he's just feeling his way around the interface.

    1 hour later he was still at it, making nightmare loops from his voice, the dog, his brother, FX everywhere; he's having a ball.

    I think he understands sampling now. Great app, thanks!

    That is awesome. Thanks for sharing!

  • @matte said:
    My 6 year old asked if a song was the beach boys, I said no, it's using a sample of someone else who sounds like them.

    "What's sampling?" he asked?

    5 mins later I had him in koala, me doing minimal prompting, he's just feeling his way around the interface.

    1 hour later he was still at it, making nightmare loops from his voice, the dog, his brother, FX everywhere; he's having a ball.

    I think he understands sampling now. Great app, thanks!

    🎖️

  • @espiegel123 said:

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    @supadom said:
    I’m having issues mapping my launchpad x to Koala. I’ve tried it standalone and then in Aum. Aum can see lpx and it is routed to koala. I put Koala in midi map mode but no matter what midi message I send cc or note it doesn’t register. Any ideas?
    Does Koala only receive on one channel or something?

    My LPX works fine with Koala for me — just tried in Notes Mode and Custom mode. What mode are you in in the LPX?

    What MIDI are you sending it?

    Can you stick a MIDI monitor on to see what MIDI is being sent?

    My LPX is sending on Midi Channel 1 — but I just tested sending from another controller to Koala on other MIDI channels and it sees the MIDI correctly and has no problem mapping to them.

    I just tried it with pro 11 instead of 10.5 and it worked as expected. I’ll put a scope on it. Cheers

    It is unfortunate the Koala doesn't let you choose the input device. I can see that for folks with multiple connected devices -- or with a connected device you don't want Koala to see this could be problematic. I.e. what if I want my hardware controller going to something like Mozaic or MIDFlow and having those dispatch the MIDI to Koala.

    I guess that can be mitigated by routing controllers separately via the host.

    Ah. I see that Koala is being smart when loaded as IAA. When loaded as IAA, it does't listen to the hardware directly -- which is great.

    @McD said:

    @Hypervox said:
    @elf_audio Would it be possible in a future update to have an option where you can change the pitch in tones, as well as by cent? Or if that's not possible, a simple sine wave tone we can tune to?

    If I understand your request, I think the feature in in the settings/options.

    Look in SETTINGS -> GENERAL
    There's a option for "Pitch knob snap to semitone"

    But maybe you want to fine tune the whole app above or below A=440. I don't see that
    option... you have to tune by cents for every sample.

    A master tuning parameter is a great idea actually — I use the one in Egoist all the time.

  • The “PITCH” effect is actually the master tune - that’s exactly what it does - it’s not a pitch shifter. The pitch in koala fx is a pitch shifter

  • @elf_audio said:
    The “PITCH” effect is actually the master tune - that’s exactly what it does - it’s not a pitch shifter. The pitch in koala fx is a pitch shifter

    Good to know... but there's no numeric value associated so we could dial in a precise pitch
    for A=xxx cycles. You have to tune by ear with a rather finicky control slider. I hope I missed some detail regarding FX controls.

  • I'm having a good time import backing tracks from my iTunes into Koala samples and playing along. I'd also love to be able to shift the tempo of these 3-4 minute files to allow me to start slow and speed up over time. I think shifting is tied to "bars" and again I hope I'm missing something for this use case. I'm hoping for a virtual "slow downer" and "speed upper" type of control. Your stretching algorhythm is so good but it seems to assume a 4 bar with BPM consideration which is ideal for a groovebox but for me this is a swiss army knife.

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    @elf_audio said:
    The “PITCH” effect is actually the master tune - that’s exactly what it does - it’s not a pitch shifter. The pitch in koala fx is a pitch shifter

    Edit: see comment below!

    Oh I was meaning a global tuning parameter that acts on all samples and combines with their pitch.

    I’ve never actually needed that in my Koala flow so this isn’t request or anything, more of an observation that master tuning in Egoists settings menu is really well implemented — for example my wife’s khomus instruments are all tuned arbitrarily, so if we swap out an instrument then I can get back in tune with just one dial adjustment rather than retuning each sample.

    I’ve actually never run into this need in Koala yet though as I do use it different to Egoist.

  • @OscarSouth said:

    @elf_audio said:
    The “PITCH” effect is actually the master tune - that’s exactly what it does - it’s not a pitch shifter. The pitch in koala fx is a pitch shifter

    Oh I was meaning a global tuning parameter that acts on all samples and combines with their pitch.

    I’ve never actually needed that in my Koala flow so this isn’t request or anything, more of an observation that master tuning in Egoists settings menu is really well implemented — for example my wife’s khomus instruments are all tuned arbitrarily, so if we swap out an instrument then I can get back in tune with just one dial adjustment rather than retuning each sample.

    I’ve actually never run into this need in Koala yet though as I do use it different to Egoist.

    Understood just now while thinking about something else that I interpreted your comment wrong — I’ve actually noticed how the master effect pitch shift shifts in the same way as the pitch dials, so it’s literally a master pitch parameter. I just didn’t think of it as such as I’d been using it in different ways, but it could absolutely be used for fine tuning!

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  • @ehehehe said:
    Sorry for sounding like a broken record, but anyone getting audio out of this into Cubasis 3 yet?

    Pretty please @elf_audio , make an instrument version like the fx one that syncs to hosts with only the first sample page. Except BM3 all built-in daw samplers are terrible, so I bet at least two or maybe more people would buy it.

    Create a midi track in CB3. Open Koala as an IAA instrument. Then, create an audio track and under “Routing” set its input as Koala Sampler. You can then record your Koala creations into Cubasis on the audio track.

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  • @ehehehe said:

    @mtenk said:

    @ehehehe said:
    Sorry for sounding like a broken record, but anyone getting audio out of this into Cubasis 3 yet?

    Pretty please @elf_audio , make an instrument version like the fx one that syncs to hosts with only the first sample page. Except BM3 all built-in daw samplers are terrible, so I bet at least two or maybe more people would buy it.

    Create a midi track in CB3. Open Koala as an IAA instrument. Then, create an audio track and under “Routing” set its input as Koala Sampler. You can then record your Koala creations into Cubasis on the audio track.

    Yeah, but I want to bypass Koalas internal sequencer and just play it from the sample page. Just tried what you said but I still get an empty section with a wheel spinning and no audio.

    Perhaps you can post a video of how you have everything setup and what happens. If there is an issue, it is likely on the Cubasis 3 side as I've not encountered problems with Koala on any of the hosts I have tried. And it seems fine with Cubasis 2.

    Are you playing the sample pads or sending MIDI?

    Is the problem that the audio output isn't recorded successfully or that you don't hear the audio you are triggering?

    Have you sent Steinberg support video documentation?

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  • @ehehehe said:
    Tried now with a mapped controller and midi thru enabled. Notes appear in the timeline and I hear them trigger, but neither freezing nor mixdown renders anything but an empty section of audio. It plays back until I do anything else, then I have to enter Koala to have it make sound again. All other IAA apps behave like they should. I ONCE got audio recorded directly from Koala, but never since, and I’ve spent hours trying every combination of settings and reinstalling. Am I the only one using Koala in Cubasis 3?

    If you haven’t yet, make a video that shows all setup and what happens. Post it to YouTube and send a link to Steinberg and the Koala developer. And post it to the AB Forum, too and tag the devs. Also,you will probably get more traction if you create a thread like “Need help getting Koala to work in Cubasis 3”

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  • @ehehehe said:

    @mtenk said:

    @ehehehe said:
    Sorry for sounding like a broken record, but anyone getting audio out of this into Cubasis 3 yet?

    Pretty please @elf_audio , make an instrument version like the fx one that syncs to hosts with only the first sample page. Except BM3 all built-in daw samplers are terrible, so I bet at least two or maybe more people would buy it.

    Create a midi track in CB3. Open Koala as an IAA instrument. Then, create an audio track and under “Routing” set its input as Koala Sampler. You can then record your Koala creations into Cubasis on the audio track.

    Yeah, but I want to bypass Koalas internal sequencer and just play it from the sample page. Just tried what you said but I still get an empty section with a wheel spinning and no audio.

    Weird. Worked for me first try. Unfortunately, I’m not sure how do to it the way your describing. Still new to the the iOS ecosystem.

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