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Anyone try this on hammerhead or pulse yet? And how is it with 16 tracks?
@dreamcartel No 16 tracks yet..
@TasTax I am looking forward for Octachron allowing up to 16 tracks. I don’t know how far you are with modifying the GUI to accommodate this, but I would suggest that ideally the GUI would not show unused tracks. My concern is that if you always show all available tracks you end up with either having to scroll, or the tracks become very narrow. This is difficult, specially on smaller screens. Ideally I would even allow less than 8 tracks and have them scaled up in the GUI.
When I create a preset in the standalone version of Octachron, it does not show up in the AUv3. Is there a way to share presets between the two, or is this a bug/limitation of the software ?
Hey everybody,
Thx for reaching out, well
yes, 16 version is still in the making. We are quite far, but we indeed want to do what you suggest @catherder . We also want to offer the possibility of compact non-scrolling views, and fewer tracks. But it’s harder to implement than we thought and we still have to fix some bugs there.
and yes, unfortunately presets are not automatically shared between standalone and the auv 3 version. And we decided to first prioritize other features like e.g. the 16 track version.
and I didn’t check pulse yet but hammerhead works pretty good. There will also be a mapping preset for it in the next update. So long you can customize it yourself. Please long press on the left side of each track to get the settings popup, scroll down and set the right midi note number there. You can look it up in this code snippet (you only need the number, like e.g. 36 for the kick)
case .hammerhead:
title = "Hammerhead"
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 36, title: "Kick"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 38, title: "Snare"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 39, title: "Clap"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 45, title: "Rimshot"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 48, title: "Snare 2"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 50, title: "Cowbell"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 42, title: "Closed Hihat"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 46, title: "Open Hihat"))
Does that help?
Best greetings from Munich ✌️😊
Tas
@TasTax thanks for the update. Great to hear about the progress. The preset sharing between standalone and plugin is not that important for me. Just stumbled over this problem today.
Two thumbs up
and greetings from Scotland to Bavaria.
Definitely
Thanks @TasTax
@TasTax thanks! Excited for the update, love the app!
(EDITED)
Perhaps I uploaded the wrong(?) music file from the wrong session file. However, there are so many sessions that I’m not sure which settings are correct(?). And I’m not sure about the original(?) session’s loudness setting either, so I delete the .mp3 file I uploaded here.
I can’t get Octachron pattern change to work in Drambo by sending notes. It works fine in Sugarbytes Drum Computer etc. I have Octachron on the main page with the tracks, midi connected to main midi, sending notes does nothing! Also tried it in aum and not working. This is preventing me from using it instead of the sugar bytes sequencer (which is tied to the drum synth). Any ideas?
Also, can we please get a separate clock divider per track, also a ping pong seq mode per track?
Perhaps “every nth” (1:2, 2:2, 1:3, 2:3, 3:3, 1:4.. etc) probability mode for triggers, such as in Pure Acid? Please! Octachron is so close to being my sequencer of choice. Thanks a ton!
Octachron is my drum sequencer of choice. Something that would make it even better: if I could load a pattern without the mapping. Currently, if I load a pattern it also loads the mapping. This is okay if you always use one drum app, but if you use several, it's tedious. Imagine that you make a pattern for Ruismaker. Then, a month later, you're auditioning patterns in FAC Drumkit. Every time you load a pattern you made for Ruismaker, you also have to reload the mapping for FAC Drumkit.
Of course, this inconvenience is far outweighed by all of the other cool things that Octachron does.
Hey @antivert , hey @dokwok2,
Thx for reaching out. And we will have a look at the Drambo thing. And yes, the other ideas are very valid too. Because of the great demand, we concentrate on the 16 track and iPhone version at the moment, but we will definitely put these things on our list (if we haven’t done so already) 🙂
Best greetings from Munich
Tas
Is there a beta for the iPhone version that I can join?
@TasTax @reinerspass
Hi. I have a question about a behavior of Octachron's Trigger Condition feature.
(This post is a bit long so I use the forum spoiler feature).
I’m not sure if the following is a bug in Octachron or correct behavior.
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Preparation
Load Octachron and any synth app into AUM.
Set up Octachron so that its output is input to the synth app and synth sound is output from iPad speakers.
Octachron's Pattern 1’s Repeats In Song value is 3.
Octachron's Pattern 2’s Repeats In Song value is 2.
Input some notes into Pattern 2.
Half of the notes in Pattern 2 are in Trigger Condition 1/2.
Half of the notes in pattern 2 are in Trigger condition 2/2.
Enable Octachron’s Song mode.
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Reproduction procedure
Start
(Octachron’s Song mode is enabled)
Tap the ▶️ switch on AUM.
Pattern 1 is played.
Pattern 1 is played.
Pattern 1 is played.
Pattern 2 is played.
- Notes with Trigger Condition of 2/2 are output.
Pattern 2 is played.
- Notes with Trigger Condition of 1/2 are output.
End
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My question
Which of the following two is correct?
The output of the Trigger Condition 2/2 notes in the first performance/playing of Pattern 2 is a bug.
In the entire song mode, the first performance of Pattern 2 is the fourth performance. Therefore, it’s not a bug that the first performance of Pattern 2 outputs notes with Trigger Condition 2/2.
Hey everybody,
we finally managed to set up the beta version with up to 16 tracks, which works quite well we think.
You can download it here:
https://testflight.apple.com/join/aH3r4QMz
We also put a lot of new mapping presets in, also for some hardware drummies. We especially put a lot of work in all the mappings, so the smart randomizer works well with all the different machines. As here with the great BlipBox from Sketch Audio.
Please see the description of the new features below, as it will appear in the new manual on release.
NUMBER OF TRACKS VIA MIDI MAPPING AND HIDING THEM
By default every MIDI Mapping preset comes with the number of tracks this drum machine typically uses. By pressing SHIFT and the eye icons though, you can hide the tracks you don’t need. And if that’s still not enough, you can also customize the absolute number of tracks and their appearance via the sequencer settings menu.
CUSTOM NUMBER OF TRACKS (1-16)
Sets a custom number of tracks. Default is 8 or the default number of your loaded MIDI mapping preset.
COMPACT MODE
Makes your grid appear more compact and less likely to scroll on the left side. It is activated by default. But if you need standard tap size grid tiles, just deactivate it.
MODULATION
To use Octachron’s interface more efficient, you can now show and hide the modulation row via the “MOD” button in the top right and also customize its size with its handle on the left.
How do you like it? How does it work for you? And how do all that new mapping presets work?
Really looking forward for your feedback. Have fun and thanks a lot for your ongoing support!
Best greetings from Munich ✌️🎶😎
Tas from Octachron
Awesome update! I’m stoked to use this with all the Klevgrand percussion apps now.
Awesome! Plenty of apps that needed more than 8 tracks so this will be huge.. Thanks..
Nice work @TasTax !
Same here! Hopping on the beta!
Me too! I’m pretty excited about this one. It was already one of my favorites but now it’s even better.
Thanks Tas!
I tried the testflight version above.
I’m very grateful to the developers of Octachron. (@TasTax @reinerspass)
My impressions
(I consider the rest of this post has little to do with the content of the Octachron’s update, so I use the forum spoiler feature).
(I should post a bunch of screenshots showing the new features of Octachron, but I don't know / I forgot how to post image files directly[?] from my iPad on the forum. But I'd rather not know, since I'll probably be too enthusiastic about posting meme images).
Minor issues
Note: All of the followings can be customized by users, so followings are not big issues for me. It depends on the users if followings are issues or not.
Note: The following is not Octachron issue. It could be a Splat-to-Clat issue, but it could also be Splat-to-Clat personality(?). (I’m not sure, I’m sorry).
The midi note values of the presets on the Splat-to-Clat side may not be continuous. So, the Octachron users would have to make the detailed(?) settings.
Example: Splat-to-Clat has a preset where the next part after C3 is set to D#3. In this case, C#3 and D3 are not used.
However, if you are finger drummers with a MIDI pad/keyboard, you may/might be able to find some law(?) or rule about the Splat-to-Clat’s midi note values. (I’m not at all familiar with midi pad/keyboard drumming(?).)
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If Octachron and Splat-to-Clat loaded in AUM are connected, tapping the ‘Note Assignment’ feature of Splat-to-Clat and then tapping the ‘Test’ (button) feature for each note in Octachron will make it easy to change Splat-to-Clat settings.
I'm using Cubasis 3 alongside Octachron as an AUV3 MIDI effect, aiming to trigger patterns from Cubasis. Unfortunately, Cubasis doesn't grant access to the AUV3 parameter list (which, to my understanding, is the only method to modify Octachron parameters from outside when hosted as an AUV3). This limitation from Cubasis makes it impossible for me to modify any parameters on Octachron triggered by Cubasis. Despite dedicating time to finding a solution, I might have overlooked something. Is there anyone familiar with a workaround for this issue?
I was so excited to see this on the beta I wanted to share it but didn’t since I like to follow “Beta Rules” however since you announced it, guess what everyone… lol
I believe the app is still on sale as well making it a great price knowing the 16 track update is on the way…
@TasTax
I haven’t tested the new beta yet, but it did cross my mind that any of the old presets for apps with 16 pads might need to be updated to accommodate the new lanes. Maybe an app could have more than one preset. Ie. FAC DK 8 pad preset, & FAC DK 16 pad preset, that way the user can choose one based off how many lanes they plan on working with… just a thought. Congratulations on the hard work to get this app up to 16 steps. Truly one of my fav sequencers. Cheers!
Hello, I use a lot for drums but also for my synths. But I have to use two mozaic scripts for that.
one that converts a cc to a note and one that stays in the right range.
Do you plan to integrate this?
Ideally, in the cc, you'd just have to ask for the max and min notes, then convert to a note with velocity. And globally define the scale. Because with all the other parameters plus random/mutation, it's really top-notch!
Thank you for your app!
PS: for the 16 tracks, I hope i'll be able to choose the number of tracks to display, because 16 is great but it's a lot when you don't need them :-) / edit : i see the param on the screenshot above : great !!! (perhaps less than 8 ?)
Oooooooooooooo running to test
Hey everybody!
Thank you so much for your nice feedback. Very glad you like our update so far 😊 And referring to your questions and ideas:
@cramdog
Thank you so much for your in-depth testing again, this really helps us a lot. And yes, you are right, we will overwork the scale generating a bit for the release. And considering splat to clat: actually, we don’t have access to it at the moment. Would you maybe like to make a suggestion which 16 track mapping you would like to have here? Maybe in a format like this example. Then we would try to implement that. That would be really cool 😎
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 36, title: "Kick"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 38, title: "Snare"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 39, title: "Clap"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 45, title: "Rimshot"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 48, title: "Snare 2"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 50, title: "Cowbell"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 42, title: "Closed Hihat"))
notes.append(NoteListItem(note: 46, title: "Open Hihat"))
@ShadeCR
Yes, unfortunately Cubasis does not support this feature. But you can do it with Octachron in Drambo and AUM. And I think also in Logic, but I am not sure about that at the moment.
@Poppadocrock
Yes, thank you. And thank you for not sharing the beta link. It should be exclusively for this forum 🙂
And yes, we thought of people not wanting to use all of the tracks possible, so we added the feature to hide tracks you don’t need. Or you can manually adjust the number of tracks in the sequencer settings after you chose the mapping preset. How do you like that?
@biggir
Thanks for your feedback and your ideas. Sounds really interesting. But actually Octachron is focused on being a drum sequencer. And the scale possibility really only is an add on. So we don’t prioritize new features here so much, but we will for sure put the idea in our backlog. But yes, it is now possible to display track numbers reaching from 1-16. So I hope that helps 🙂
And if you have more feedback, just tell us.
Thanks again for your great support so long and best greetings from Munich ✌️😊
Tas
So far, love it. Not running into any issues but need to test with other applications. Any plans for more hardware presets or will you be taking requests? Or we create our own? Thanks!
@TasTax
I haven’t downloaded the new beta, but only because I have a concern. I’ve used Octachron in many AUM sessions, and in the past there has been other betas, not yours, that when downloaded over the App Store version, deleted the patterns in old projects. I really, really want to try out the 16 lanes, but I’m concerned about that happening. Has anyone had or noticed this being an issue? I wanna test the new version but I’m concerned doing so could possibly lose the patterns in saved sessions.
Maybe someone that owns the app, and has the beta could do a quick test when they get a chance? Open an older session in AUM with octachoron and make sure everything is still in order. It would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.