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There is some really great suggestions made for sure, but the 16 tracks IS what will make me the most happy! 🤩😃
Just fyi the Sitala preset has gone awol in the last two builds. Also, any chance of making program change messages to switch patterns an actual thing? It’s quite flaky doing it through AUM, sometimes instead of the skipped beat what I get is an extra one.
That great! But there are workarounds for more tracks. There is however no workaround for offset notes. Which for people like me is mandatory in 90% of the cases when I’m making music.
But I can imagine changing the resolution of the sequencer might be more work than adding tracks.
However when you decide to add offset per note, please don’t do it in the novation way with only 6 microsteps to choose from. Elektron, Roland and Akai have a much better implementation.
But I believe because of the graphic interface you would have a great implementation of this feature just like drambo does.
Oh yes, sorry it seems to have slipped away somehow 🙂 But will be re-integrated in the next update. Thx!
Hey @Crano
Yes, of course that’s true. But 16 tracks were just the most asked for feature beside a phone version, so we decided to go for that first.
But we really want to go for offset as well.
We thought about:
Or what do you think would be good units and numbers and a good implementation?
Thanks a lot for the support and best greetings from Munich 😊
Tas
This would be awesome.
New update out. 1.7.0
No iPhone! 😔
It's my fault that I bought it without checking it carefully. I had no basis for it, but I definitely believed that it was a universal app. I hope it supports iPhone. if possible.
Hey @RXQ02165 and @gregsmith and the whole Octachron Community! 😊
Yes, sorry about that, we had to do some refactoring first. And for us actually, really the tablet with it’s light weight but much bigger screen really is the to go device for mobile production and where Octachron can unfold its full potential.
But due to the large demand, we plan to release an iPhone/Universal version as well this year.
So may I ask you what your main Usecases are with a phone version of Octachron? Like standalone or in Aum, landscape or portrait, how many tracks needed, for sketching, live or also production or any other aspect you would like to point out. Would be really great to know all that in detail to make it fullfill your needs as well as possible.
Thx a lot in advance again and best greetings from Munich ✌️🙂
Tas
So I use loopy pro in exactly the same way on iPhone and iPad, producing a song from start to finish. All the same auv3’s, same workflow etc. Was exactly the same when I used AUM.
It allows for a seamless workflow so I can literally be working on the same song throughout the day wherever I am, airdropping the project from one device to another as appropriate.
For this modular workflow you need a good solid drum sequencer that works on both devices. I’ve been using Drambo which is obviously awesome, but Octachron strikes me as one of those apps that does one job and does it really well.
I would expect to have to use it landscape, although some basic level of usability in portrait with a side scroll would be good.
Hope that helps. And no rush, my moaning isn’t serious 😉
Yup it’s the dream of being able to airdrop between devices…
Pretty similar, loopy/drambo/aum on the phone as simply impossible to use ipad as primary mobile device.
Octa is quick to work with and just kind of fun to use, landscape is preferred, at least semi-functional portrait is sometimes helpful, ideal would be identical version to allow filesharing. For production, not live (for me).
I am very excited to hear that there are plans to turn Octachron into a universal app.
If I were to use Octachron on my iPhone, the main purpose would be for the base (sketch) before working on the iPad. Of course, it can be landscape, and if there are other good ideas for the user interface, I think portraits will lead to more people choosing to use them. If I put the most emphasis on it, as others have said, it is the same as being able to transfer data to the iPad (AirDrop, iCloud Sync, etc.).
How about switching and displaying 4 tracks each? ? My sketches are usually around kick, snare, OH, CH, so I think that 4 tracks can be displayed at once.
Also, in the iPhone version, I think it would be even more attractive if you could switch between 4 tracks or 8 tracks and switch portrait mode.
Is it possible to assign the swing rotary dial in seq settings to a rotary knob on my midi keyboard. I’m using Octachron within AUM. Struggling to find the CC info for swing. Cheers.
fwiw, here’s what I’m getting from Drambo in landscape mode in loopy pro on iphone.
Plenty big enough 😉
Hey @Jimg3555 ,
Thanks for reaching out. But unfortunately that’s not possible yet. But we put it on our list.
Best greetings from Munich
Tas
I'm trying to get Octachron working in Drambo (driving FAC Drumkit and Sitala). And it works great, inside the Drambo track. However, I'd love to be able to trigger Octachron pattern changes from the Drambo clip launcher, so there's one control plane for performance. I haven't been able to get this working so far. I've tried sending MIDI notes 9+10 as single on/off events, as well as notes that last the length of the entire clip (in case the note off message was part of my problem). I've tested these notes both with and without Instant Pattern Switch enabled. I'm half a MIDI noob, so this is almost certainly operator error, but I'm not sure what my next troubleshooting move ought to be. Any help is much appreciated.
Yes, Thx 🙂
(This ‘RANDOM STEP REPEATS’ idea is a very ‘weak’ suggestion, so please add it to the end of the line of Octachron wish list. I’m not iPhone user, but I think Octachron's support for iPhone is the feature that everyone wants most.)
Currently, Octachron has 4-step STEP REPEATS feature.
Apart from that(?), it might be nice to have ‘RANDOM’ STEP REPEATS feature where the STEP REPEATS changes randomly.
For that RANDOM STEP REPEATS, it might be nice to have multiple settings like Octachron's Trigger Condition.
E.g.) 1-4, 0-4, 2or4, 0or1or3, etc...
(0 is silent.)
And, that RANDOM STEP REPEATS might be nice to have 8 steps of 1-8, or more values.
@ctrl64
Hi. Probably I can explain how to use Drambo's virtual keyboard screen to switch between octachron patterns. That is, by using Drambo’s MIDI Learn feature.
But I don't know how to make the virtual switches or buttons on Drambo’s clip launcher screen have the feature to switch octachron patterns.
So if this post of mine can't solve @ctrl64's problem, I would appreciate it if forum members could solve it.
Anyway, I’m not sure if this will help you, but here's how to use that virtual keyboard method.
My request to forum members
If my explanation is incorrect, I would appreciate it if forum members could point it out. And if so, please put the name tag @ctrl64 in your text to tell @ctrl64 that my explanation is incorrect.
I think anyone can read it by tapping on "Spoiler", even if they are not a member of this forum.
""Attention.""
Please turn the volume down before testing.
I am not sure if setting the following method that "MIDI feedback" is the right way to do it. It might cause some problems.
I’m a perpetual noob when it comes to music apps.
So please test it after you turn down the volume.
Virtual keyboard method
Tap the hamburger icon in the upper left corner of the Drambo screen.
Tap "NEW".
Tap "MIDI SEQUENCER".
Tap the "➕" to the right of the MIDI OUTPUT module that appears.
Tap "Audio Unit MIDI Processor" in the DEVICE menu of the MIDI menu in the Library menu.
Load Octachron into the "AUDIO UNIT MIDI PROCESSOR" module that appears.
Tap "Map" that appears to the right of the Octachron window.
Tap "(0)" that appears below the MAP.
Place a checkmark on the "Activate Pattern"s 1 to 8, in order from top to bottom.
Tap "✖️" above "Map".
New eight knobs will appear on the module with Octachron loaded.
Tap the "MIDI Learn icon (There are two dots in a circle.)" in the upper left corner of the Drambo screen.
Tap knob 1 "twice" to set the event type to "Note".
Set the "Number" to 1.
Set the "Control Type" to "Button Momentary".
Knob 2 to knob 8 also set the event type to "Note", and set the control type to "Button momentary".
However, the "Number"s should be 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8.
Tap the "MIDI Learn icon" to exit it.
Set the MIDI OUTPUT module’s " - - " to "MIDI feedback". (Again, ""Attention."")
Tap the Octachron icon.
C#-2 to G#-2 of the virtual keyboard of Drambo correspond to the eight octachron patterns.
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Sorry, my iPad has been very unresponsive on taps lately. Recording video while using Drambo causes frequent false taps and mild(?) freezes, so I couldn’t record video. (Needless to say, it is not Drambo issue, my iPad has problems.)
Enhancement request: more AUv3 automation parameters
In particular, I’d like the ability to trigger per-row and per-pattern smart randomization via MIDI. This would make it easy to make a gradually-evolving ever-changing sequence controlled by something like a Mozaic script.
Thanks for sharing this, @cramdog. My question is specifically about triggering Octachron pattern changes from Drambo clips. Unless I'm missing something, I don't think that this solution addresses my use case.
@ctrl64
I’m sorry. I guess I had a subconscious fear of the terms "trigger" and "clip" because I am new to music software. So I was not capable of thinking seriously about your question. I assumed a very simple usage of triggering MIDI notes placed in the piano roll. (For example, using Atom2 sequencer to control other sequencer apps.)
But it dawned on me that with clip-based(?) DAWs and software, my approach might cause timing problems. So I thank you for giving me a chance to think about it.
If your question does not get an answer in this thread in the future, you might want to ask it in the “Drambo thread in this Audiobus forum” or in the “Drambo category of BeepStreet forum”. Of course, I think there is no problem if you post a new thread in this forum to ask your question.
https://forum.beepstreet.com/categories/drambo
And I think there is an opportunity and a possibility that forum members who are familiar with Drambo will see here (= this thread), so waiting for them to do so may be the right choice.
If you are going to ask your question elsewhere in the future, let me give you one piece of advice, because I am a worrier.
I am not familiar with internet etiquette, but I have heard that asking one (same) question in more than one place at the same time can make people feel uncomfortable.
So I think it would be safer to ask the question again in another place only if it has not been answered for a certain period of time.
(I think this Audiobus forum is full of friendly people, so I think it will be fine. Good luck.)
Maybe @TasTax can answer my question? The generic version is "how can I trigger pattern changes in an Octachron AUv3 guest, from the AUv3 host?" I don't believe that this is directly addressed in the manual, as the External Control Via MIDI section appears to be specific to standalone mode.
If there's a better place (or way) to ask my question, please let me know.
@ctrl64
I’m sorry. My explanation was quite poor.
What you want to do may be possible if you apply the method I wrote.
Let me explain briefly.
I upload 1 file exported for Drambo setting and 1 screenshot, in my this post.
Please look at the attached screenshot.
You can see two vertical yellow line segments on the left side of the screen of Drambo.
If you tap around them, you can change the pattern of Octachron.
(However, this method is very simplistic or even forced. So I feel it may not be the optimal solution.)
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The setting file for Drambo could not be uploaded in its original format. So I used a file compression feature of iPadOS.
This text is a bit long, so I use a spoiler feature. Anyone can read it by tapping it.
Caution!!
As I mentioned within the spoiler of my previous post in this thread, I want you all to turn the volume down before testing.
Because I used MIDI feedback with this setting and I am not sure if that is correct way.
I’m concerned that it might cause some problems.
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https://apps.apple.com/app/king-of-fm-dx-synth-e-piano/id1672644102
With Octachron, Drambo, and King of FM (free app) above, it would probably be possible to run my Drambo file.
-If you only want to check the operation, this test does not need to output sound.
-In the case of this test, Octachron's default key state is set too low for the King of FM synth app's default preset. So it may be hard to confirm by ear that the pattern has changed.
So you may want to raise the pitch(?), or make distinctive patterns, or load your drum machine app and use Octachron’s Lord Mapping feature.
Octachron setting
-Even if all 8 patterns of Octachron are blank, it probably doesn't matter for this test.
-If Octachron’s Instant Pattern Switch setting is "active", you can easily see the changes that have occurred on Drambo screen as a result of your operation.
-I don't think “Lord Mapping setting of Octachron” needs to be changed, in this case.
In other words, I think it is fine to leave it as the default condition.
(The default condition is the same as Octachron’s official(?) preset named General MIDI.)
Drambo and King of FM settings
-Probably the default condition will work.
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-Octachron window in Drambo must be open.
-You only have to tap on the “4 points indicated by the yellow lines” in the screenshot.
(I said the 4 points, but it is ‘9+9+1+1’ to be exact.)
First, tap on Drambo's ▶️ switch. (This operation is always required.)
You will notice that tapping randomly on the 9 yellow clips (“A” in the screenshot) will change the “focus of the pattern in Octachron”. (This is the “blue line” in the screenshot. All you have to do is keep your eyes here. No need to tap the blue line. Only the yellow line area needs to be tapped.)
Even if you don't tap a clip, when the playhead “reached” any clip, Octachron’s pattern is automatically selected and played. (Again, this is the blue line in the screenshot.)
-The 9 clips in “A” have the MIDI notes from C#-2 to G#-2 placed in the piano roll, as mentioned earlier within the spoiler of my previous post.
Tip
If “B” in the screenshot is not enabled (in other words, if B is not red), please “disable” Octachron’s “Instant Pattern Switch”.
Otherwise, the automatic transition(?) from pattern to pattern may not work properly and extra sounds may be played.
Hey you all, Octachron does not support being triggered by midi notes in AUv3 mode, this only works in Standalone, what you can do though is use Parameters (the preferred way to control AudioUnits…) I’ve created a short video that explains it. Please excuse my weak iMovie skills…
There is one caveat though, to make it work I needed to enable the “instant pattern switch” feature, that sometimes tends to send double triggers. Hope to be able to address this in a future version of Octachron!
Cheers
Markus
Hey @ctrl64 , @cramdog and everybody interested in the drambo topic.
Please see Markus’ answer above
Thx 😊
Tas
@TasTax
Hi. I watched @reinerspass’s video about 10 times at 0.5x speed. (True story.)
As a result, I realized the following method. This is different from the method I mentioned in my previous post.
(But I’m not sure to whom I am writing the following method. Maybe I’m living to fatten up something like ChatGPT with something like crawling or searching AI...)
(How to set notes and knobs is the same as @reinerspass's video.)
Tap and hold a clip on Drambo.
Drambo will then enter P-Lock setting mode.
Move a knob on the module where Ochtachron is loaded.
Then tapping that clip in Drambo will change the pattern of Octachron (guest).
(But I’ve not yet used this method for music, so it may not work well.)
What might be the advantage of this method
-Because it uses Drambo's clip instead of Drambo's pattern, the playheads of tracks other than the track on which the Octachron is loaded are probably not affected.
-Even if Octachron's Instant Pattern Switch is disabled, you can still change Octachron's pattern by tapping Drambo's clip.
What might be a disadvantage
-It is not possible to instantly change the pattern of Octachron (guest) in real time when you tap the clip of Drambo.
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@ctrl64
The above disadvantage is not in the Drambo project file I uploaded in my previous post.
Using that project file has the following advantages.
advantages
-You can change the Octachron (guest) pattern by tapping on a clip of Drambo.
-Because it uses Drambo's clips and not Drambo's pattern, tracks other than the one loaded Octachron will probably not be affected.
-It works whether Octachron's Instant Pattern Switch is enabled or disabled. (Whether it will be musically usable or useful I do not know.)
However, I have the following concerns in my project file.
-I’m not familiar with specific examples of problems that can occur with the MIDI feedback feature. The phenomenon of the clip flashing with the same number as the track using the MIDI feedback feature is bothering me, in this case. So I'm worried something bad will happen.
(i.e., Loud noise, Passive speakers of neighboring residents explode for some reason, Aurora appears, etc…)
-I’ve never used that project file for music yet. It is just a proof of concept(?). So if you actually use the method using the project file, it may not work properly for music. I’m sorry @ctrl64 if that is the case.
@reinerspass @TasTax
Thanks! Will give this a shot this week.