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I make no claims, of having rights to "Ugly Zebra". But it seems that the UglyZebra.com domain name is already taken.
However UglyAntelope.com is apparently available at this moment . lol
Maybe gather a consumer focus group and narrow down the best new product names?
.....Or just stick with what you got?
Regarding the new version of your chord App....
I think it's Fantastic!
I'd place it in my top five list of essential AUv3 iPad Apps.
The creative potential for an App like Tonality Chord Pads seems amazing.
I'm loving the mono-mode, the keyboard displays, the variety of ways you can set up the latch mode to keep previous playing notes playing while switching Chords/Pads. The way I can now use the AUM keyboard in hold mode to create a chord by tapping and un-tapping notes until it's just right, then assign that chord to a Pad with a just second tap.
I think it's great, and thanks for building it!
I'll provide you with my full thoughts once I spend some more time using it.
.... The only odd thing I noticed so far.... occurred when sending "latched" mono mode chords to the Arp in the Moog Model D AUv3 synth.
I'll guess the Arp in Model D can't recognize the "instant" chord changes. But I had no issues with any of the other Arp's I've tried so far. Not a big deal to me though... My first thought was perhaps add a "forced latency" button for the mono-mode settings... Maybe Model D needs a bit of gap in order to "fully" unlatch from a playing Arp note pattern, then switch to a new one? If I turn the mono mode off... Model D works as expected. But like I said.... Not a big deal for me, and Model D might be the only AUv3 synth that it effects.
The Tonality Chord Pads are great for quickly assigning a series of chord progressions to the Chord Pads.
Use Midi from the chord pads to play a sustaining "Synth Pad Sound" on a lower key range in one synth, then set up a different synth to play leads with your right hand using a Midi keyboard controller.
What I think makes this so much fun, is you only have to tap a pad to play a chord, and it keeps on playing until you tap the next Pad in the progression. IMO... This allows individuals who may not be great at playing complex chords with their left hand, to just tap on single pads one at a time. It frees up the mind so one can focus on the right hand, and use it to play complex leads.
I like this method for developing complex spontaneous musical ideas very quickly.
Best of all.... The Tonality Chord Pads are AUv3!
@horsetrainer
Yeah I'm probably sticking with Tonality. Glad you're enjoying the update and thanks for your detailed responses!
When you're using latched mono mode, which note-on and note-off overlap modes are selected in the bottom of the settings page? I'll have to try this out with Model D.
Awesome! This was one of my intended use-cases. Glad it's working out for you.
More gifts were under the Tonality tree 🌲
@TonalityApp Awesome update! The quick-assign, half-sized pads, monopad mode, performance mode, show piano + shared preset saving within the Chord Pads AU are fantastic! That’s just in the first minute of browsing around the settings page and interface.. I know there’s much more there which I’ll discover as needed.. thanks again for all the shiny new things..
Never mind.....
The Model D is now working properly for me with Tonality's Latch Mode.
Too many things happened to know the reason for the temporary glitch.
Yesterday, AUM had crashed on me while loading Model D on the first try.
Upon re-start of AUM, that's when I experienced the Model D glitch.
Moog just released updates for Model D and Model 15, and I updated both late last night, before shutting my iPads down......
I just loaded Model D, turned on the ARP, and now Model D working perfectly with Tonality.
@TonalityApp looking forward to trying these updates.
Sorry to see there is still confusion. I totally understand keeping the name- especially with all time put into branding etc..
but if you ever do decide to go for a new name i would be happy to brainstorm and help out in any way ( I run a small illustration and graphic design studio when I’m not being a layabout on music forums )
I also really like the new Piano Keyboard Display... It shows the piano notes that are being played, in the same "customizable colors" used by the chord pads that are playing the notes. I find the visual reference from Keyboard Display very helpful for thinking of the next chord when building chord progressions.
I also noticed the very nice new "Circle of Fifths" features in T-o-n-a-l-i-t-y ...
Circle of fifths has been in tonality from the very start like the name Tonality no? It is annoying about this name change from the other app. It will cause endless confusion.
Never noticed it before.
I like the look of the rising-hovering-drop-shadowing of the note when it's selected.
@TonalityApp
Moog Model D is bugging out on me again.
Now I'm able to replicate it on two different iPads (5th gen. running 12.4.3...and... 6th gen. running 13.2.3).
See if you can replicate....
1) Open AUM
2) Load AUv3's of Tonality Chords in midi slot, and Model D in audio slot
3) Set Model D to preset PADS: "Profit" (it does it on any Model D sustaining polyphonic patch)
4) Open the Tonality AU... Put in MonoPad Mode... Latch Mode On
5) Overlap Modes... Note on: Retrigger .... Note off: Hold ... (bugs out on any settings I try)
6) Tap chord pad... use "Choose a chord window" tap "C" then "Min" then "7th"... Load "Cm7" onto Pad.
7) Tap another chord pad... In tap "A" then "Sus"... scroll down one and load "Asus4" onto Pad.
8) Engage Latch at bottom of Pad screen.
Route midi from Tonality to Model D in the AUM routing screen.
Now tap on "Asus4".... it will latch as it should.
Next tap on "Cm7".... On both my iPads only a single note will be left playing.... an A#.
If I try the same using Synthmaster One or Lorentz, it works fine.
Maybe change the name to "Tonality AU" -or- "Tonality AUv3" -or- "Tonality Audio Unit" ?
When people search they may (theoretically) want the one that's an Audio Unit.
Then in the description for "Tonality AUv3".... It will say right at the top...
" Tonality App includes both a Standalone mode and Audio Units ! "
Is the "other one" an AU? Unless I missed it, I didn't see AU listed in "it's" App Store description.
@royor @horsetrainer @LowMoses Happy to hear you’re enjoying the latest features!
@LowMoses Thanks for the offer! I’m surprised by the numbers of graphic designers on this site.
@[Deleted User] @horsetrainer The circle of fifths has been there since 1.2 – the focus mode is the only new thing. Glad you like the animations!
@horsetrainer Yeah I’ve also managed to recreate it. I noticed that some apps (Model D, Model 15, Pure Synth Platinum) have this issue while others are fine (Zeeon, Ravenscroft, and some others I’ve forgotten). I suspect it has to do with different implementations when handling simultaneous MIDI events in their render loops. I think I’m sending them out correctly on my end (MIDI monitors like Stream Byter show everything sending in the correct order), but there’s always a chance I’m completely wrong. @brambos do you have any input about issues with simultaneous MIDI messages getting processed in the wrong order by some synths?
Good idea with the naming too. Just saw that comment as I was writing this. You are correct – the other app doesn’t have AUv3 functionality
why should the dev change the name of his app? The other dev clearly choose an almost exact name after. The other developer who doesn't seem concerned at all should make a change IMO.
@[Deleted User] I appreciate your support and wish the other app would change, but I don’t think it’s likely. At least this suggestion isn’t changing the name Tonality – just the “tagline” after it. I’ve had various things (Tonality – music theory, tonality – piano/guitar chords, etc.) in the past anyway.
OK, my last words on it. Its very clear to me the situation.
I wonder if Apple has a policy about similar App names that cause consumer confusion?
Might be worth a call to the Apple developer dept. and ask to be connected to the appropriate department that might handle such matters.
I'm completely guessing, but I think it might be a difficult and costly to pursue a civil case. Especially if no trademark was registered internationally.
No real point in following legal action indeed. We all hope people can just take a second look and make the right decision in these cases. Thats life though. Dev has worked above and beyond on this app. Really my last words... honest.
Great app, great update. Appreciate all the hard work and listening to your users. Cheers
@[Deleted User] @horsetrainer Yeah there’s not much I can do and Apple wouldn’t help. I’m just going to roll with it.
@lukesleepwalker Thank you!
I love the update. I have a suggestion for an inspiration:
https://www.mugglinworks.com/chordmaps/GenericMap.pdf
I was thinking of making it myself, but extensive chord pad work still feels cumbersome and since I can't share presets across devices, I am not sure if it would be worth it.
However, since there is the Chord Maps app that uses that map, I am not sure if it's some type of infringement to include in Tonality.
@animalelder That’s a really cool idea! I’ll look into putting something like that under the Inspiration presets. I’d actually seen that diagram a while ago – thanks for bringing it up!
The ability to share presets is coming soon!
Don’t ya know every graphic designer secretly wants to be a rock star
I did a few experiments controlling "Model D" using ("Atom Piano Roll AUv3" within AUM), and ("Xequence 2" controlling the standalone "Model D" App), and in (Cubisis with the Model D AU loaded).
All tests were preformed using Asus4 and Cm7 alternating chords.
What I think I discovered... Is that "Model D" itself seems sensitive to "instantaneous" chord changes.
I found that by progressively increasing the "pause time" between the chord "Stop" and "Start" points in the Piano Roll editors of each respective App, I could eventually reach a point where Model D would play the chords without sporadically dropping notes.
Basically... "Model D" seemed to behave similarly in every test App and scenario.
I did not experiment with any other synth Apps.
Although, I might say Atom running Model D inside AUM may have taken slightly more "pause" between chords to stop the note dropping behavior.
My personal opinion based on my experiments, are that the issue does not seem to be with the Tonality App.
I'll speculate that the best way to create a workaround to use Model D (or any other App that exhibits such note dropping behavior). Might be to add an ON/OFF feature in the Tonality App's setting, that selects between "instant" to about 10 to 20 milliseconds of pause before triggering a chord when a pad is played in Tonality "Mono Mode".
@TonalityApp A few thoughts / suggestions regarding the Audio Units:
Grand Staff
Right now you select the keys by the number of accidentals. For those of us who don't always remember our circle of fifths, it would be nice if this worked by the more traditional naming (Key of G, Key of F# minor, etc.)
Chord & Scale Identification
Still waiting with bated breath for the scale identifier to have a melodic / additive capture mode. I.e. where played notes are held and add to the refining of the scale ID, so you can play a melody and see what scale it is instead of having to hold all the notes of the melody simultaneously. Yes, you can sort of get this by sustaining / latching the notes you're playing, but this will also sustain / latch the sounds played; it would be great if Tonality buffered the notes instead. This is the feature I've been hoping for since the app was first released!
The AU analyzes notes played to tell you what you’re playing, but it doesn’t work well as a reference to find things you want to play. E.g. in the standalone I can search for F# Lydian and see what notes are in the scale. With the AU I can’t. I have to work backwards: play the notes I think are in the scale and see if I’m right. Also, because there isn’t the additive mode I have to hold down a lot of keys to refine the selection. It would be great if the AU had the search features as well so it could be a reference as well as an analysis tool.
Right now the scale identification will assume the lowest note played is the tonic. It would be nice to have a setting where the first note played is assumed to be the tonic and the scales will be based off of that initial note. It's usually obvious what the tonic is and this way you could play chord inversions and still signal to the app what the tonic is to avoid too many solutions.
Chord Pads
It’s hard to tell which pads are latched - I think it would help if there were highlight rings around the pads to make it really obvious when pads are latched.
Right now you have to press the Latch button before you press a pad to latch that pad. Ideally you could press Latch while you’re already playing a pad to keep that pad held.
Ideally there would be a way to unlatch all held pads at once instead of having to toggle them individually.
Some things to consider, regardless, thank you for the amazing development work you've done to expand this app in tremendous ways!
I am actually against this request, i believe you actually hinder the user from learning how to read music by this request.
@horsetrainer Thanks for experimenting! I’ll definitely keep looking into ways to get around this (your delay idea seems like the best one).
@aplourde Cool ideas (and I especially agree with the chord pad ones)! Adding them to my list. Not sure about adding a search feature for scales though since that doesn’t really need to be AU and has no MIDI functionality. Have you tried using the main Tonality app with this search functionality as an overlayed or split window (assuming you’re on an iPad)? I’d probably add the tonic mode as a setting (first vs lowest). Still thinking about a cumulative mode too!
@[Deleted User] @aplourde Not sure what to do here. I could add a circle of fifths selector as I have in other places
It makes no sense to me to show Gmajor as when you read the notes you need to have the accidentals there to do this? It doesn't help improve reading notes in grandstaff, it would hinder progress IMO.
@[Deleted User] Maybe I could have two options and display the number of sharps or flats in the circle of fifths selector?
Cool idea the circle of fifths sector would fit in with grandstaff if its in an option.
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@TonalityApp appreciate the latest and greatest as well as your continuing efforts...