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Tonality - Music Reference by Bryce Hostetler - Updated with Midi and Auv3 support

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  • Hey Mr TonalityApp, have you a guitar chord generator on you list for future development? It’s surprisingly difficult to create on iOS. It is possible online, but... Say, define finger position, finger number and name of chord. Then generate an image to save in photos. I would find this very useful

  • edited December 2019

    @craftycurate Nice!


    @Fitz Have you seen the chord chart generator already in Tonality? I could probably add image export. Did you mean more for creating custom fingerings?

  • @Fitz Have you seen the chord chart generator already in Tonality? I could probably add image export. Did you mean more for creating custom fingerings?

    Yes. Very good, nearly there. Just allow me add the name at the top (so I can use French names), allow me to add the numbers of the fingers used and I’ll be sorted. This is the online resource for reference-

    https://chordgenerator.net/#Sol.png?p=3200XX&f=32----&s=10

    And thanks for a great app!

  • @Fitz Adding to my list! I’d probably put an export option on the page that comes up when you tap the “i” button next to a chord

  • edited December 2019

    @craftycurate Great work! Lovely and instructive.
    I'm new to Tonality, Just bought thanks to the kind sale from our good Dev).
    I need to study your setup and re-create a new one with my Synths, and also need to study and learn the "I think wonderful" Chord Pad feature of Tonality. So I know what to do next days...LOL

    BTW if someone could point me at a simple tutorial comprehensive of this Chord Pad feature I would be grateful.
    Best

  • @craftycurate Thank you for that. Very useful (and good).

  • @Sinthemau I’ll have a manual out with the next update!

  • @TonalityApp said:
    @Sinthemau I’ll have a manual out with the next update!

    Bang!!!! I need it. Thanks...really I'm discovering a way to learn music at the end LOL Long Live Tonality!

  • This app is evolving so fast must be hard to keep up with the manual hihi

  • Just 2 words to remark my genuine appreciation for the way of making Apps (business ??? maybe but mostly, I think, a great love for Music and the passion to teach also something to people not so "musical" like me :-)

  • @[Deleted User] Yeah definitely... not looking forward to revising it in the future (it’s easier now since I’m making it for the first time)

    @Sinthemau I’m glad you appreciate it!

  • @TonalityApp said:
    @Fitz Adding to my list! I’d probably put an export option on the page that comes up when you tap the “i” button next to a chord

    Thanks!

  • @craftycurate
    I liked your ambient video very much!

    @TonalityApp
    Using two Midi strips in AUM...... I'm trying to set up two instances of the chord pad AU, and use each instance to control it's own separate AU synth.

    (I wanted to play bass chords using pad instance 1, and melody chords using pad instance 2)

    Apparently, the 2nd instance of a chord pad will pass Midi thru instance 1. In other words, I can only get the second instance to play the synth #1.

    Just as a test, I tried it using two Audiobus AU Midi channel strips, and got the same result.

    Not essential to have multiple instances running. Happy to have your App for what it can do. But wanted to know if multiple instance support exists, and if so, how to implement it.... Thanks. :)

  • @horsetrainer Fixed that in a recent beta! All of the audio units will be completely independent in the next update.

  • @horsetrainer said:
    @craftycurate
    I liked your ambient video very much!

    Thanks 😀

  • @TonalityApp said:
    @horsetrainer Fixed that in a recent beta! All of the audio units will be completely independent in the next update.

    Forgot to mention that ... I couldn’t find any way to set a MIDI channel for an AU instance of Chordpad ... is it current set to OMNI by default?

    If so I gues it will be up to the DAW routing to determine what goes where?

  • @craftycurate Do you mean for MIDI input or output? And yeah, given the way AUM, Audiobus, and others generally use separate MIDI routings for apps rather than relying on 16 channels, I figured it would make sense to leave it like that.

  • edited December 2019

    @TonalityApp said:
    @horsetrainer Fixed that in a recent beta! All of the audio units will be completely independent in the next update.

    Cool!

    Looking forward to being able to combine a synth playing bass chords/Arpeggios with a different synth playing melody chords/Arpeggios.

    I'll be able to play improvisational, fast, complex, progressive stuff, with both hands in real time. That I'd never be able to get my fingers to play the old fashioned way.

  • @Sinthemau said:
    @craftycurate Great work! Lovely and instructive.
    I'm new to Tonality, Just bought thanks to the kind sale from our good Dev).
    I need to study your setup and re-create a new one with my Synths, and also need to study and learn the "I think wonderful" Chord Pad feature of Tonality. So I know what to do next days...LOL

    Happy to chat more if you wish about my setup.

  • edited December 2019

    EDIT: Deleted my requests for features that have already been implemented or addressed so as not to confuse anyone. I hadn’t read the update on this app.

    I was just looking at this earlier in the App
    Store.

    @TonalityApp looks like a great app! These kind of apps have been doing wonders for my music theory/ general knowledge.

    Side note: Pinterest has tons of very good graphics and charts and info graphic type stuff for music theory, mixing tips..etc.
    I like to pull up a few windows when I’m working on something that’s new to me.
    Not a total beginner but I kinda blew off a lot of the more technical stuff when learning guitar as a teenager. Now I find it all fascinating

  • @craftycurate said:

    Happy to chat more if you wish about my setup.

    Thanks! Very kind from you.

    First, I'm very new in Music and lack all the theory stuff, my bad; just love iOS for it's let me have fun the same and maybe trying to learn something in the meantime, producing things at least "listenable" to me. I've seen a lot of potentiality in Tonality just for that.
    Music from your demo is very pleasant indeed.

    Trying to set up something similar I cannot drive the Chord Pad from Autony (I haven't Rozeta yet), I mean Chord Pad can be loaded with chords and it drives my Synth (SM1 at the moment), but if input from Autony is mute in AUM.
    I will try to use PolyPhase too.

    Also a question: when tapping on the pads in Chord Pad do I need to set up myself the chord? If I tap on the chords already in the UI, they sound correctly with synth sounds but don't go in the pads.... instead if I chose "Create Custom Pad" all works flawlessly.

    Other maybe stupid question: in your post you says:

    This setup requires a few settings to be active:

    Latch mode (see bottom of Tonality window): Found the Latch mode and set it up.
    In Settings: MonoPad mode, Sustain Mode = Latch, Overlap Mode: Note On = Send New and Note Off = Hold:

    Cannot find MonoPad and Overlap...maybe I'm blind... :-(

    Maybe this is the issue?

    No problems anyway, I'm playing here and there with Tonality and other Apps and I'm having fun and instructive time!

    So, when you have time try to answer my questions, but no hurry...enjoy this Holiday first!

    Thanks again and best

  • edited December 2019

    @LowMoses When you say midi out/export, what exactly do you mean? (people have used this meaning a couple of different things and a lot of midi capability is already in Tonality, so I just wanted to clarify)

    The chord pads are also great for building progressions.

    @Sinthemau How exactly are you inputting from Antony, and what do you expect it to do? In order to respond to midi, triggers need to be set using midi learn mode in settings

    To add a chord to a pad (that isn’t a custom one), just tap on the chord’s name (and not the piano). This will take you to the same screen as the custom pad editor.

    Mono pad and overlap are in the beta but coming soon to the released version

  • @TonalityApp - have you considered a chord progression "suggester" for the chord pads page?

    For example: I have 2 chords assigned to pads, and the app suggests a few ideas for a third chord based on a library of chord progressions.

    And maybe I could browse a chord progression library and pull entire progressions onto the pads.

  • @TonalityApp said:

    Hi - I have a question about the sustain button in chord pad mode - can this button get latched (fixed in active position) - ? If so - how? I often play very low and mellow pieces and do like it when the sustain is always on - so it would be great I have could latch it instead of having to hold it down all the time - as I can latch a note in AUM-Keyboard for example. Is it already possible? Or can it get added in the future? Would love that ... )

  • @Sinthemau said:

    @craftycurate said:

    Happy to chat more if you wish about my setup.

    Thanks! Very kind from you.

    First, I'm very new in Music and lack all the theory stuff, my bad; just love iOS for it's let me have fun the same and maybe trying to learn something in the meantime, producing things at least "listenable" to me. I've seen a lot of potentiality in Tonality just for that.
    Music from your demo is very pleasant indeed.

    Trying to set up something similar I cannot drive the Chord Pad from Autony (I haven't Rozeta yet), I mean Chord Pad can be loaded with chords and it drives my Synth (SM1 at the moment), but if input from Autony is mute in AUM.
    I will try to use PolyPhase too.

    Also a question: when tapping on the pads in Chord Pad do I need to set up myself the chord? If I tap on the chords already in the UI, they sound correctly with synth sounds but don't go in the pads.... instead if I chose "Create Custom Pad" all works flawlessly.

    Other maybe stupid question: in your post you says:

    This setup requires a few settings to be active:

    Latch mode (see bottom of Tonality window): Found the Latch mode and set it up.
    In Settings: MonoPad mode, Sustain Mode = Latch, Overlap Mode: Note On = Send New and Note Off = Hold:

    Cannot find MonoPad and Overlap...maybe I'm blind... :-(

    Maybe this is the issue?

    No problems anyway, I'm playing here and there with Tonality and other Apps and I'm having fun and instructive time!

    So, when you have time try to answer my questions, but no hurry...enjoy this Holiday first!

    Thanks again and best

    I'll PM y> @Bon_Tempi said:

    @TonalityApp said:

    Hi - I have a question about the sustain button in chord pad mode - can this button get latched (fixed in active position) - ? If so - how? I often play very low and mellow pieces and do like it when the sustain is always on - so it would be great I have could latch it instead of having to hold it down all the time - as I can latch a note in AUM-Keyboard for example. Is it already possible? Or can it get added in the future? Would love that ... )

    Swipe right on the button.

  • @craftycurate said:

    Swipe right on the button.

    That is easy ?! Great ) - thanks for the advice ....

  • @craftycurate Thanks!
    @Bon_Tempi The UI will reflect this option better in the next update

    @pete12000 I have! Not sure quite how I want to implement it, but it’s on my list

  • edited December 2019

    @TonalityApp said:

    @Sinthemau How exactly are you inputting from Antony, and what do you expect it to do? In order to respond to midi, triggers need to be set using midi learn mode in settings

    To add a chord to a pad (that isn’t a custom one), just tap on the chord’s name (and not the piano). This will take you to the same screen as the custom pad editor.

    Mono pad and overlap are in the beta but coming soon to the released version

    Solved all...I mean YOU solved all LOL:

    1) Using learn mode I can cacth MIDI messages from Autony and so will be for other MIDI generators too
    2) Chords name not piano: it wasn't elementary!!! Just joking, but it's not so immediate,really, that's why a manual is needed
    3) Mono pad and overlap: Got it, wait next release

    @craftycurate: Now I can reproduce your scheme: Great!!!

    THANKS ALL GUYS, you so useful, and kind

  • edited December 2019

    @Sinthemau said:

    @TonalityApp said:

    @Sinthemau How exactly are you inputting from Antony, and what do you expect it to do? In order to respond to midi, triggers need to be set using midi learn mode in settings

    To add a chord to a pad (that isn’t a custom one), just tap on the chord’s name (and not the piano). This will take you to the same screen as the custom pad editor.

    Mono pad and overlap are in the beta but coming soon to the released version

    Solved all...I mean YOU solved all LOL:

    1) Using learn mode I can cacth MIDI messages from Autony and so will be for other MIDI generators too
    2) Chords name not piano: it wasn't elementary!!! Just joking, but it's not so immediate,really, that's why a manual is needed
    3) Mono pad and overlap: Got it, wait next release

    THANKS ALL GUYS, you so useful, and kind

    You're welcome.

    @craftycurate: Now I can reproduce your scheme: Great!!!

    This might help to explain ... there will be variation in the synths, effects but this is mostly how it works out for this kind of track.

  • @TonalityApp Hi. I was actually just editing my previous comment — got confused when I first read this thread and assumed all the comments requesting midi were recent. I had also just checked out the app like I said.. but I guess the feature list is so long I must have missed the midi info ;)

    Catching myself up now and all looks great. It means a lot when developers are interested in feedback and responsive. Much appreciated!

    I believe this app more than meets my needs, going to pick it up right now. Will report back!

    To answer your question though -

    by ‘midi export’ I meant ‘save as’ a midi file. I found this useful in a few apps that let you build progressions and arrange, re-arrange and tweak them and then export.
    I understand that might not make any sense to implement in this case and it’s not a big deal because I imagine I can just record midi from Tonality into something like Xequence 2 or AUM.

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