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Tonality - Music Reference by Bryce Hostetler - Updated with Midi and Auv3 support

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  • @espiegel123 Thank you! I've been thinking about something along those lines (searching more than the lower frets by default and propagating the most relevant results to the three shown) . Would most desired voicings be between the 1st and 10th frets? Also, if you could email me pictures of the voicings listed above that would be great.

  • edited September 2020

    @TonalityApp sorry I'm causing so much trouble!

  • @enkaytee You're completely fine! This is the kind of thing I want from a beta tester.

    Followup question: does the app ever freeze indefinitely rather than crashing?

  • @TonalityApp said:
    @enkaytee You're completely fine! This is the kind of thing I want from a beta tester.

    Followup question: does the app ever freeze indefinitely rather than crashing?

    Yep - just answered the PM...

  • @TonalityApp said:
    @charalew @Krupa @espiegel123 @(other beta testers/guitarists)

    Tonality now supports barre chords!

    I'm working on making the default results more in line with standard, "accepted" voicings for common chords. If you're on the beta and have time, please let me know if you come across any chords for which...

    • The default results (on the table/list) aren't what you would expect
    • The chord displays with a barre but shouldn't
    • The chord should require a barre but one isn't indicated

    Thanks!

    The baffled king composed a hallelujah.

  • edited September 2020

    @espiegel123 @Krupa @Jocphone @charalew @Poppadocrock

    Exciting news! I rewrote the guitar voicing generator from the ground up. It now takes a split second (around 0.05s or less) to generate thousands of guitar voicings under very permissive criteria. By comparison, the old version took a couple seconds in many instances. This means you can search the entire fretboard for voicings – even with large 13th chords or a 7 string guitar – and get results almost instantly.

    It also means I was able to improve the default results shown in the main table. I'm still refining them, so if you think a voicing is left out of the default results please let me know!

    I've started to incorporate suggestions regarding including movable voicings rather than just lower-fret voicings.

    There's also a new "movable voicings only" option and a redesigned visual fret range selector (see my above post).

  • @TonalityApp said:
    @espiegel123 @Krupe @Jocphone @charalew @Poppadocrock

    Exciting news! I rewrote the guitar voicing generator from the ground up. It now takes a split second (around 0.05s or less) to generate thousands of guitar voicings under very permissive criteria. By comparison, the old version took a couple seconds in many instances. This means you can search the entire fretboard for voicings – even with large 13th chords or a 7 string guitar – and get results almost instantly.

    It also means I was able to improve the default results shown in the main table. I'm still refining them, so if you think a voicing is left out of the default results please let me know!

    I've started to incorporate suggestions regarding including movable voicings rather than just lower-fret voicings.

    There's also a new "movable voicings only" option and a redesigned visual fret range selector (see my above post).

    Freaking Amazing. Great stuff @TonalityApp

    How can I delete chords in the standalone pinch window?

  • @Poppadocrock Thanks! Removing chords (and persisting changes to the palette across app sessions) are two of the last things I have planned before I release.

  • @TonalityApp : the new features sound great. Sorry that I haven't had feedback for you re default voiicings yet. It ended up being a busier week than I anticipated.

  • No worries - your feedback from earlier was helpful by itself

  • @TonalityApp said:
    @Poppadocrock Thanks! Removing chords (and persisting changes to the palette across app sessions) are two of the last things I have planned before I release.

    Oh ok. Great. Yea some kind of delete, and maybe a copy/paste feature would be cool There. That way if I’m creating a pad set up to use in AU Pads, I can have all the chords right there then drag and drop to Pads.

  • @TonalityApp : Great app. The new search is very fast.

    Something that I have noticed is that the default chords are often all the same voicing that differ only in the number of strings played. For example, tap E, Any and 7th as the options. You will notice that for the first three chords listed the same notes are fingered and they only differ in the number of open strings. It would probably be helpful for the three versions to be more different. The result is missing common voicings in the same region. EM7, Em7 and E7 all have common variants that would make sense to see there. I can send them to you off list if that would be helpful.*

    In the chord search options, it would be useful to have a minimum strings option in addition to the max. Sometime it is useful to only see 3 and/or 4 string chords or only 6 strings, etc.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    @TonalityApp : Great app. The new search is very fast.

    Something that I have noticed is that the default chords are often all the same voicing that differ only in the number of strings played. For example, tap E, Any and 7th as the options. You will notice that for the first three chords listed the same notes are fingered and they only differ in the number of open strings. It would probably be helpful for the three versions to be more different. The result is missing common voicings in the same region. EM7, Em7 and E7 all have common variants that would make sense to see there. I can send them to you off list if that would be helpful.*

    In the chord search options, it would be useful to have a minimum strings option in addition to the max. Sometime it is useful to only see 3 and/or 4 string chords or only 6 strings, etc.

    Just noticed that too. Seconded.

  • Very happy with the latest version - just keeps getting better and better. Genuinely playable!

  • edited September 2020

    @espiegel123 @audiobussy
    I’m thinking a setting (enabled by default) to show only the voicing which is the largest possible superset would remedy this. How does that sound? Also, do the common voicings you mentioned show up later in the list (i.e. if the somewhat redundant voicings were removed would they move forward)? If not a list would be great (at least giving the common shapes).

    @charalew
    Really glad to hear it!

  • New UI for guitar chords!

    @espiegel123 @audiobussy I've created a new setting ("hide equivalent voicings") which will remove these redundant options. Probably going to rename the setting - any ideas?

  • @TonalityApp said:

    New UI for guitar chords!

    @espiegel123 @audiobussy I've created a new setting ("hide equivalent voicings") which will remove these redundant options. Probably going to rename the setting - any ideas?

    Maybe "hide equivalent voicings" sounds good or "hide similar voicings"

  • @espiegel123 Sounds good. I might also put a little explanation below it.

    Just a heads up - I made it so that setting will still allow subsets of a barre chord in some cases, since they're potentially useful. For example, both [1,3,3,2,1,1] and [X,X,3,2,1,1] will show up as voicings of F Major even with that setting enabled.

    Let me know if this has improved the default results!

  • @TonalityApp said:

    New UI for guitar chords!

    @espiegel123 @audiobussy I've created a new setting ("hide equivalent voicings") which will remove these redundant options. Probably going to rename the setting - any ideas?

    Great job. I like hide similar voicings as well

  • edited September 2020

    Actually. I’m not so sure. Maybe hide redundant voicings. We want to show a similar voicings. These are too similar. Irregular? Redundant? Uncommon?

  • @audiobussy said:
    Actually. I’m not so sure. Maybe hide redundant voicings. We want to show a similar voicings. These are too similar

    "Redundant" is a good choice

  • @audiobussy @espiegel123 Okay I'll go with that! It was right in front of me too...

    ...a new setting ("hide equivalent voicings") which will remove these redundant options. Probably going to rename...

    I've spent too much time looking at this evidently :D

  • You’re definitely hard at it right now, I’m liking what I’m seeing but I’m not keeping up too well, your programming fingers must be on fire :)

  • @Krupa Yeah I really need to work on that manual... I keep putting it off and adding five new features instead. Soon though! I've been working hard this week to make everything release ready.

  • It’s all pretty intuitive from what I’ve played with so far, seems really deep now and so much to take in, great stuff!!

  • @TonalityApp said:
    @Krupa Yeah I really need to work on that manual... I keep putting it off and adding five new features instead. Soon though! I've been working hard this week to make everything release ready.

    The new beta much improved on chord selection. I’ll pm a coupla things I noticed.

  • edited September 2020

    KEEP UP THE FINGER BLEEDING BRILLIANCE ETC!

  • Any videos out on the strummer side of this heard good things about it?

  • @Jumpercollins said:
    Any videos out on the strummer side of this heard good things about it?

    That's in beta now. I will do one when it is released 😘

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