EG Pulse - ElliottGarage new AU3 Drum Machine - available right now on App Store

Jeezs

Multi output doesn’t work for me : AUM doesn’t see any multi bus audio.
Does it work for any of you, Is there something to do to make it work?

gosnote

@ElliottGarage said:
Update 1.15 is online (waiting for the App store processing time).

This is the next updates timeline

• euclidean pattern creation
• velocity layers
• multiple bars for each patterns

@ElliottGarage - thank you for the update! Great work!!

I am really looking forward to velocity layers: can you share how many layers you will support and will it be possible to batch import multiple samples onto a pad? Would even automapping multiple samples to evenly spaced velocity ranges on a pad be possible, e.g. based on sample file name? That would be absolutely killer.

_ki

@ElliottGarage Thanks for the cool update 👍🏻

I tried around a bit with the multi output variant and it seems each of the 16 pads is directly mapped to one of the outputs. I didn‘t find the possibility to define an own mapping, neither in the pads config nor in the mixer. This would mean i need to setup 16 AUM channels, each using a different EG Pulse output to grab the whole drum-mix.

If i haven‘t overlooked that feature, it would be a lot more convenient if one could specify an own mapping (preferable in the mixer view) to group maybe two kicks on output one, two snares on output two and all the other sounds on output three.

Nevertheless - EG Pulse is the first 🎉 multi output instrument AU ! You are clearly taking the lead with this feature 🥇

Carnbot

@drewinnit said:
can anyone tell me how many outputs each instance of EG Pulse allows with the new AUM update?

edit: oh and thanks for ver 1.15! looking forward to update when I get home tonight

16

_ki

@Jeezs said:

Multi output doesn’t work for me : AUM doesn’t see any multi bus audio.
Does it work for any of you, Is there something to do to make it work?

For the first output, add an AUM audio channel and load EG Pulse Multi-Output AU into the input slot.

For the second to n‘th output add another AUM channel and in its input popup, you‘ll find a submenu with ‚Multi.Bus Audio Unit Instances‘. In that sub-menu select ‚EG Pulse Multi-Output‘. This will add Bus 16. Now tap on the new Bus-Icon left of the AU instance icon to select the bus for this channel.
Each bus can be only added once and one can only select a single bus to read from.

Thats why i requested bus assignment for the EG Pulse mixer

Jeezs

@_ki said:
@Jeezs said:

Multi output doesn’t work for me : AUM doesn’t see any multi bus audio.
Does it work for any of you, Is there something to do to make it work?

For the first output, add an AUM audio channel and load EG Pulse Multi-Output AU into the input slot.

For the second to n‘th output add another AUM channel and in its input popup, you‘ll find a submenu with ‚Multi.Bus Audio Unit Instances‘. In that sub-menu select ‚EG Pulse Multi-Output‘. This will add Bus 16. Now tap on the new Bus-Icon left of the AU instance icon to select the bus for this channel.
Each bus can be only added once and one can only select a single bus to read from.

Thats why i requested bus assignment for the EG Pulse mixer

Thanks I was using the audiounit effect version of EG Pulse and didn’t notice there was 2 version of the plugin.
Thanks for help.

stormbeats

@ElliottGarage said:
Update 1.15 is online (waiting for the App store processing time).

This is the next updates timeline

• euclidean pattern creation
• velocity layers
• multiple bars for each patterns

@ElliottGarage ok cool multiple bars per pattern is that in this update. Will check it out . Thanks

ElliottGarage

@Oneskseno yes, I'll fix the Link issue right now (btw if you host sync EG Pulse, the issue seems to not happen).
@gosnote I'm thinking about 5 layers. Since I'm still working on this feature any suggestion is appreciated. What kind of automapping do you suggest?
@_ki you can create mixbus directly on AUM, so I don't think there's much need for a user bus mapping into Pulse.
@stormbeats the multiple bars per pattern will not be in this update. And it will come after the other features I listed (that I already started working on)

I'll post a quick video on how to configure multiple busses into AUM tomorrow or in the weekend

_ki

@ElliottGarage said:

@_ki said:
If i haven‘t overlooked that feature, it would be a lot more convenient if one could specify an own mapping (preferable in the mixer view) to group maybe two kicks on output one, two snares on output two and all the other sounds on output three.

@_ki you can create mixbus directly on AUM, so I don't think there's much need for a user bus mapping into Pulse.

Thats what i already did - to get the full 16 pads, grouped into 3 destinct groups like in my example you need to add 16 instances and 3 more AUM mix-bus channels:
1. 19 AUM channels which need 5 full AUM pages to scroll through
2. Took ages to setup, i didn‘t count the taps needed but its over 100...

Having an output channel assignment in the EG Pulse mixer only needs the 3 AUM channels (small space requirement) and everything can be super easily configured inside the EG Pulse AU window.

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Oneskseno

@ElliottGarage just noticed the same thing. Thanks! Loving the Eg Pulse!

Tones4Christ

Amazing work! Amazing Dev! Amazing app!

Loving it❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@ElliottGarage said:
@Oneskseno yes, I'll fix the Link issue right now (btw if you host sync EG Pulse, the issue seems to not happen).
@gosnote I'm thinking about 5 layers. Since I'm still working on this feature any suggestion is appreciated. What kind of automapping do you suggest?
@_ki you can create mixbus directly on AUM, so I don't think there's much need for a user bus mapping into Pulse.
@stormbeats the multiple bars per pattern will not be in this update. And it will come after the other features I listed (that I already started working on)

I'll post a quick video on how to configure multiple busses into AUM tomorrow or in the weekend

drewinnit

@_ki said:
@Jeezs said:

Multi output doesn’t work for me : AUM doesn’t see any multi bus audio.
Does it work for any of you, Is there something to do to make it work?

For the first output, add an AUM audio channel and load EG Pulse Multi-Output AU into the input slot.

For the second to n‘th output add another AUM channel and in its input popup, you‘ll find a submenu with ‚Multi.Bus Audio Unit Instances‘. In that sub-menu select ‚EG Pulse Multi-Output‘. This will add Bus 16. Now tap on the new Bus-Icon left of the AU instance icon to select the bus for this channel.
Each bus can be only added once and one can only select a single bus to read from.

Thats why i requested bus assignment for the EG Pulse mixer

+1 agree entirely with _ki on this, please let us define which pads go to which output from within Pulse.

espiegel123

@ElliottGarage said:
@Oneskseno yes, I'll fix the Link issue right now (btw if you host sync EG Pulse, the issue seems to not happen).
@gosnote I'm thinking about 5 layers. Since I'm still working on this feature any suggestion is appreciated. What kind of automapping do you suggest?
@_ki you can create mixbus directly on AUM, so I don't think there's much need for a user bus mapping into Pulse.
@stormbeats the multiple bars per pattern will not be in this update. And it will come after the other features I listed (that I already started working on)

I'll post a quick video on how to configure multiple busses into AUM tomorrow or in the weekend

Re output mixing/mapping, it would be much better if Pulse had a mixer that let you mix/route pads. It is cumbersome and not portable to do this in the host. If it is in Pulse, you can set up kits with pads mixed/bussed as you'd like and not have to re set that up in each host.

Needing to use 16 AUM channels is not terribly practical from a usability standpoint in my opinion.

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Jeezs

@ElliottGarage said:
@gosnote I'm thinking about 5 layers. Since I'm still working on this feature any suggestion is appreciated. What kind of automapping do you suggest?

I’d prefer a bit more say 8 layers but if it’s not possible please allow some customizable cross fade between layers or some kind of round robin.
Or better : 8 layers + cross fade+ round robin 😊😊

_ki

@espiegel123 said:
Needing to use 16 AUM channels is not terribly practical from a usability standpoint in my opinion.

Its 16 additional AUM channels (to get the audio out of EG Pulse) plus the number of groups you actually wanted to create. IMHO the main idea of the multi-output feature is applying different FX to groups of drum- or instrument sounds.

I do amit its do-able and works well, as i already played around with it - but its also cumbersome and takes some time and a lot of screen-space. Luckily AUM can import this 19 channel setup into other sessions

espiegel123

@d4d0ug said:
I hear what you folks are saying but how about using a different instance (Non multi out) for samples you want to bus together? Sorry if someone’s already suggested this.

IMO that's impractical. Adding an output channel selection in the Pulse mixer would be sooo much friendlier.

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ElliottGarage

ok, I'm gonna check the mixer section of the App to see what can I do

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_ki

@ElliottGarage Thanks a lot for thinking about it 👍🏻

Now that i’ve done a preset for routing all 16 channels into 3 subgroups, multi-channel support opens up really cool things. I can use the ‘kick subgroup’ to duck other instruments and additionally apply ducking to the ‘snares subgroup’ when the bass is playing 😀

espiegel123

@ElliottGarage said:
ok, I'm gonna check the mixer section of the App to see what can I do

Great!

ElliottGarage

Here's a little preview of the mixer for multi-output. For each sound you can choose the AUM output bus

royor

@ElliottGarage Another awesome update! Thank you very much for ALL your dedication and lost sleep to this app..

---> The preview of the mixer for multi-out looks like the perfect solution.. man, you are speedy..

Tones4Christ

😳

_ki

@ElliottGarage Wow - didn‘t expect a UI mockup that fast

Where is the audio for bus ‚-‚ routed to ? I suspect ‚nowhere’ like a muted channel.

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I would suggest the following:

• In AUM there is always one main ‚EG Pulse Multi-Ouput AU’ instance supplying bus 1. And this can‘t be changed, since there is no bus selector popup for the main instance. Therefore i would suggest, that all channels default to output to this main bus 1. Inserting the main instance would sound the full EG Pulse drum set of all 16 channels.
• If the user wants to add busses, he can change drums maybe to bus 2 or 3 and add AUM channels which use the ‚Multi-Bus Audio Unit Instance‘ feature in AUMs input slot and select the extra drum busses there.
• My suggestion would not need a ‚-‚ bus. One can always mute a drum slot in the mixer if one doesn‘t want the output of that drum-sound

espiegel123

@ElliottGarage said:
Here's a little preview of the mixer for multi-output. For each sound you can choose the AUM output bus

Cool! Thanks

ElliottGarage

@_ki yes, the '-' route will not be there (it was just a quick mockup).
Not sure wheter setting all channels to the 1 bus by default or incrementally from 1 to 16...🤔