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I got as far as ‘pressing a yellow slot will preview that loop on the timeline’
I pressed it and nothing happened 😂
that works, but then it says i can’t record; and to enable record in host track? i’m in AUM and that does nothing.
The new feature not working?
Not for me. I’ve got the loop points stored and it now highlights then when I click the snapshot number, but the loop doesn’t play. Also hooking up the AUM keyboard does nothing. I’ve tried all the C’s.
Has anyone been successful yet?
unfortunately it's a crashfest for me...
Yep. That is a limitation of MultiTrack that I was unable to convince @4Pockets to change. With Remote, you have to use the AUM record button. But AUM won't let you use its Record button unless at least one of its channels is armed to record. It can be a dummy channel.
I find it much easier to switch back to host sync when I want to record. Probably a simplification could be to make this a toggle button instead of two separate ones. I guess no one is running MT with both being off.
Well, pushing the snapshot buttons is not working for me either. MIDI triggering is working nicely. I did it with a keyboard and with LK. Are you using the MIDI version of the plugin? MT creates two types of plugins, one with MIDI and one without.
Do you have to have multitrack playing when you trigger? Or AUM playing? I’m definitely missing something.
Well, I have everything playing then. AUM, MT and LK. AUM is the master. Check if you are using the MultiTrack MIDI version, the normal does not allow MIDI trigerring.
Got it! I didn’t have loop enabled. How do I stop it playing a loop though?
I guess I could make a silent loop to go back to.
I’ll make a video later.
A video of setting the midi version of audio loop triggering would be much appreciated. I tried triggering loops yesterday using 4Pockets Nurack as didn't have a controller handy as was travelling but couldn't get it to work via CC, or Note. Not sure what I was doing wrong.
New video from 4pockets:
I put up a very simple video in this thread of triggering loops with AUM’s keyboard as that’s the most basic use case to see how it works. You trigger the various loops with notes in the C3 octave for queued loops or C4 for instant triggers. You don’t need a controller.
Paul also told me to further improve the feature by adding means to adjust channel volume and mute channels. This will be great stuff. I guess soon we will need more than 8 channels
I also started my first song with MT and LK. So far works nicely. I also use it to bounce CPU heavy instruments to audio. I try to figure out a workflow where I have separate AUM project files:
That would be kind of poor man's track freeze with AUM. Jeeez... it's amazing which painful workarounds I can bear just to get to my desired DAWless setup
But who knows, maybe we are just the pioneers and in 10 years from now everyone is using a modular DAW.
I tried using AUM keyboard but couldn't get it to trigger. I was trying to set it up via AUM midi learn.
New update has fixed my crashes....Not intuitive at all to set up this looping, but glad it's there.
Thanks, I don’t need to make a video now 👍
Exactly this 😂
Although I would happily use a traditional daw if there was one that supported all the stuff like multi out etc. AUM is bleeding edge and rock solid, and I can push the cpu way harder than I can in any iOS daw I’ve tried. I’ve not needed track freezing at all since I started.
This multitrack is actually pretty easy to setup when you know how and nice that it’s all in one place. I just need to refamiliarise myself with how the audiopool thing works so I don’t lose any clips by mistake!
It’s so good that we can still laugh about it. I mean, we could also go berserk and smash our iPads
Yes, no iOS DAW sports all the features I want. Latest Zenbeats is close but crashes too often.
I have an iPad 6 and I quickly get the crackles. AUM with LK, noir, ruismaker, Zeeon, Bleass alpha, some TB FX and that’s it. If load one more synth then usually LK crashes first. But I saved some money and later this month I‘ll buy the new iPad Pro.
Oh yes, never forget to save the MT song.
@krassmann i like your poor man’s freeze idea!.
I see Multitrack’s new loop feature as a poor man’s audio clip recorder and player. Not because it’s bad, but because it’s not really made for clips. What happens if you have variable length audio clips?. I guess you’d need to copy the smaller audio seqs to make all tracks fit the loop...
Paul would probably put together a perfectly fine clip player by dinner time!.
@krassmann and @gregsmith i agree, all DAWs lack something important and AUM is fast, solid and the routing makes sense. I too use Zenbeats, which for me is also closest to a good workflow, lately freezing tracks is buggy and I can’t export loops as stems. Switched to Auria, which is amazing for mixing, and it constantly crashes when resizing... AUM doesn’t crash. I’m all for the modular approach, little apps that specialize in doing one thing one way. Apps like AUM to host and route, apps like LK to orchestrate, apps that do sounds, apps to record and play audio (lacking as of now) apps to process and add effects.
I don’t think we’re far away from the holy grail, well, A holy grail. Loopy pro will probably finish it off for my needs.
I have a feeling Apple will do something to disrupt it all in the next couple of years, like iOS logic, or allowing au’s to host au’s.
The new update allows controlling volumes by cc so here’s a quick Mozaic script I’m using for controlling this, you can rename the pads and set which loop bar it triggers on. You need to set up loops in MTR and point this at it in AUM.
It triggers quantised to each bar.
@OnLoad
ShowLayout 2
FillArray padarr, 0, 16
lsize = 4
call @guisetup
@End
@OnPadDown
pad = LastPad
if pad < 8
if padarr[pad] = 1
padarr[pad] = 0
else
padarr[pad] = 1
endif
else
for x = 8 to 15
padarr[x] = 0
endfor
padarr[pad] = 1
endif
call @updatepads
@End
@OnKnobChange
knob = LastKnob
val = GetKnobValue knob
if knob = 2
lsize = round(TranslateScale val, 0, 127, 1, 8)
LabelKnob 2, {Loop }, lsize
endif
@End
@updatepads
for x = 0 to 15
LatchPad x, padarr[x]
endfor
@end
@OnNewBar
bar = hostbar %lsize
if bar = 0
for t = 60 to 67
SendMIDINoteOn 0, t, (padarr[t-52] * 127)
endfor
endif
for y = 20 to 27
SendMIDICC 0, y, (padarr[y-20] * 85)
// log padarr[y-20]
endfor
@End
@guisetup
// labelpads
LabelPad 0, {Lead}
LabelPad 1, {Riff}
LabelPad 2, {Arp}
LabelPad 3, {Rhythm}
LabelPad 4, {Pad}
LabelPad 5, {Bass}
LabelPad 6, {Drums}
LabelPad 7, {Drum 2}
for i = 8 to 15
Labelpad i, {L },i - 7
endfor
LabelKnob 2, {Loop }, lsize
@end
@GrimLucky this looks interesting!.
But I can’t see how it works to control volume. Would you mind explaining it in detail?. this is how it looks when I load the script.... thanks!
Thanks, it just switches volume between 0 and 85 as I couldn’t get the mute buttons to work by CC, the below code should really loop from 30 to 37 and have 127 instead of 85 but this didn’t seem to work.
For volume control of individual tracks I’m just routing multi outputs from MTR to AUM and mixing there, it’s a bit primitive but worked for me so I thought might be worth sharing.
for y = 20 to 27
SendMIDICC 0, y, (padarr[y-20] * 85)
// log padarr[y-20]
endfor
Whoops, forgot to mention the top row mutes/unmutes the individual tracks and the bottom row schedules the loops quantised to the number of bars set by the loop knob.
Right!, now get it. Thanks.
I copied and pasted it to Mozaic. Somehow there’s no midi coming out of it.
I tried other script which got midi out and the cc30-37 didn’t effect the mutes.
Any suggestions how to fix that ?
I couldn’t get the mutes working either so I used the cc20 to 27 to change volume from 0 to 85, it should send midi on every nth bar set by the loop knob.
Might be a bug.
Maybe the copy paste won’t work when copied from the web to Mozaic. Can you please upload to patchstorage?
Sorry if this has been asked before but can you record multiple AUM individual tracks at the same time into individual tracks in the recorder? Also is it multitrack playback meaning can I send each recorded track to an individual out from AUM to my Audiofuse ADAT channels?