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That must be msrp .. I’m seeing them as low as $800.00. After watching several videos of em I’m really impressed with the onboard sound generator too .. but was looking to run the B-X3 with it. Keyboard magazine did a review of it with praise, and Joey DeFrancesco seems to like it (but that guy pretty much endorses everything lol) Only thing that bugs me is the looks of the thing .. kinda an ugly thing compared to say a Hammond XK-5 or Viscount Legend .. but also only a third of the price. I’d pick one up myself but just don’t really have room for it.
I'm still watching the Keyboard Corner for comments on this app:
Then the thread goes on to ask how to MIDI Map the sliders and teach people about the Camera Kit Adapter and how there are 2 of them... "get the expensive one with the Power Input option".
Now with the B-3X app and Jazz Drummer linked to the iBassist with recent update.
"Alex, I'll take famous Organ Trios for $118."
Why not download the Win/Mac demo and try for yourself?
OK, I'm going to try the Mac demo out. I'll get 9 days to play.
I'm digging the Mac GUI for access to every control and page without any required manual diving.
UPDATE AFTER TEST DRIVE: Wow. Lot's of presets that speak to the complete history of the instrument and it's greatest users: Booker, Jimmy, Purple, White Satin, Prog Rock (Keith) to highlight a few. Church, Gospel, Cathedral are all in their pews. Stadium, Theater and Lounge in the house. So, playable with total suspension of disbelief for those sounds.
I love those Percussive Hammond and clicky key touch articulation.
I guess they could cripple it and dole out the IAP's to get these Stomps, Cabinets, FX and maybe the bass pedals but it's priced well according to the sonic range and accuracy of emulation. Stunning on the Mac and ground breaking if it performs like this on my iPad.
Now I feel the clock ticking before it goes up to $150.
I have to try it with an expression pedal.
Thanks for the little review!
If you had to pick 3 presets to go on stage with, which would they be?
There are 6-8 Jimmy presets. I'd start there for my favorite sounds. Jimmy Smith
is to the organ like Clapton is to the guitar for me. But there really isn't an organ sound
you can't create with the stomp boxes for distortion, wah and delays added to the 6 Leslie
models.
I'm asking because I'd like to have a try with Galileo/Galileo 2 and the Eventide Rotary.
I'm just wondering about the real differences.
The IK Multimedia App emulates all the aspects of a Hammond B-3 with the addition of
Stomp boxes, all the historic Leslie Cabinets with their features intact and high quality finishing FX.
Just pick 3 icon organ performances like:
Then emulate that with the Yonac Galileo and Eventide Rotary apps to make the case that they are good enough for 90% of us. You might even find some MIDI files that help provide
good Organ playing on the internet.
I just saw in a Youtube video on the Hammond Company that the owner of the brand (Suzuki Company) is manufacturing Digital-based Hammond B-3's in the original cabinet designs. I wondered if the digital audio engine they use has been exposed to IK Multimedia for their PC/Mac and IOS products.
Yaassss. One of the best parts of Christmas time is having an excuse to put Christmas Cookin' into heavy rotation.
When I was working with my B3/L800 in the 70/80's I never used the preset black keys .. just the drawbars, chorus dial (always on C3), and the percusion tabs. On the IK BX3 app its the same .. I just take the default patch and adjust the same controls like I did on my real B3.
I know I can download a Mac demo (and I will) but has anyone compared this to GG Audio’s Blue3?
When this came out many people regarded it as the best emulation (VB3 at that point hadn’t been updated in ages and its crown slipped; now it is VB3-II).
Did a madness. Bought t for iPad after tried it for pc.
Full blown away.
Best sounding organ that I have ever tried.
The only cons is that is a lot of money for an app and the futures on IOS is always unpredictable 😂
@ikmultimedia good job. I am amazed. Now don’t stop the support to all your iOS app😄
I was wondering if anyone had had a rush of blood! Good on you
Same here. I downloaded the Mac demo and tried to see how close I could come to matching the sound of the B-3X using Galileo2 on my iPad. As good as I thought Galileo2 was, I was blown away by the quality of B-3X. Obviously the price differential is substantial but so worth it. I ended up getting the iPad version. I knew I’d no longer be satisfied with any of my other organ apps. It’s that good.
Yeah now I’m no longer satisfied with any of my midi keyboards to play it , so I’m looking at getting a real Hammond C3 to have midi retrofitted to play it 🙄 Someone slap me
@cloudswimmer For real?
This is very much like the piano player that finds Ravenscroft 275 and upgrades his MIDI controller to a Kawai MP11SE to complete the illusion of a real Grand Piano experience.
There are players on the Keyboard Corner that have complete B3-like hardware (Viscount Legends) that do have MIDI out and they say the combination of that controller into this iPad
emulator is heavenly for a pure B3/Leslie illusion.
Anyway... somebody slap @cloudswimmer fast. Adding MIDI to a B3 defeats the main benefits: mobility and lowered cost.
Yeah I found a 1966 Hammond C3 and Leslie 21H locally in mint condition .. with pedals .. for 2800.00 delivered. Got the go ahead from the wife .. will have to put my Roland Jupiter 80 on top of it to save room in the family room.
Yeah moving a C3 around to gigs at age 59 ain’t happening lol ..... fortunately I’m retired from that now so once she’s planted there she stays .. my backs still got issues from moving my B3 around when I was in my 20’s 🤕 I was also looking at just getting the Hammond XK-5 ..... but that cost more than the real thing with Leslie! I almost Got the StudioLogic Numa Organ 2 last week .. Amazon had em new for $701.95! Anyway spent a good chunk of time tonight working on my Hammond chops on the BX3 .. yeah I think it’s better than Galileo 2, would be curious to see someone put BX3 up against and XK5 for sound.
Out of curiosity: Which B-3X preset did you try to copy with Galileo 2?
Which one is the hardest to get close?
To be honest, I only tried a couple of them. Cathedral & Whiter Shade. I probably tried hardest on Whiter Shade. I’m not really a keyboardist, certainly not an accomplished one, but I’d like to think that I have a pretty good ear for audio quality. The downside in this case was maybe a lack of patience. I did try to imitate a couple of the presets in The B-3X but did I give it a fair shake? Probably not. I remember a lot of years ago, my parents bought a Hammond organ. I don’t remember at all what model it was but they gave it to me when I got older and moved out since I was really the only one that played it. I ended up trading it even up for a Baldwin Aerosonic piano. My thoughts at the time were that the piano would retain value more than the organ. I’ve regretted it ever since. I got my Hammond back. Sort of!
Here is the demo that Jim Alfredson did this week. Given that it is Jim is one of the all time great B3 players he really makes this sound incredible.
Remember that Jim is using a Hammond Xk-5 as the controller which has a fantastic kybd with 5 contacts on each key (B3 had 9 per key, most decent controllers have 2). Midi currently only transmits 2 per key. I find it very interesting that he thought that this sounded better than an SK-1and that the Leslie sim sounded better than the Vent.
@Philh0954 Thanks!
I'm not experienced either, but I know that the factory presets in G2 mostly don't serve my taste. Certainly, a lot can be done with the built-in effect modules. I'll have a try soon.
@cloudswimmer I use a Hammond XK-1 I bought years ago (along with a Neo Vent) as my MIDI controller for organs. It has the waterfall keyboard and drawbars.
I use Streambyter to convert the MIDI drawbars to different CCs as they currently all transmit the same CC.
You can pick up an XK-1 nowadays for a fraction of the price of newer organs and they are still excellent sounding clonewheels in their own right (same internals as the XK-3c) only the onboard Leslie is not great.
Thanks for that Tim, good to hear from another organist. So what do you use for your lower manual .. or is only one manual needed for your work? I’m still looking at that C3 and 21H with a 2 speed conversion .. but think it’s more of a late midlife crisis thing than really needing it lol. My B3 got stolen a long time ago and I miss it now .. but don’t miss all the room it took up in the house/studio .. or the noise .. or having to keep it full of oil .. or the tar and nicotine smells perpetually eminating from it lol.
A B3? Stolen? Seriously?
I found an issue today using Hammond B3-X in my standard Sunday service live. I tried using it alongside Thumbjam, Korg Module and Sunrizer and everytime I tried loading up B3-X it crashed. Normally I use 2 sounds at a time in different midi channels. I'm not sure if it's just too much load for my ipad mini 5. I really hope not because l've never had an app crash on me in these 4 years using my ipad rig. BTW I use these apps standalone and just do midi channel switching between them.
Standalone or hosted? The Mini 5 is a very powerful device with plenty of memory...
Standalone. What I do is I have all 4 apps open at the same time with background mode on in every one of them. I set up sound patches and run for example strings on Korg Module (on midi channel 2) and a pad on Sunrizer (channel 3). I run my Hammond upper manual on channel 1 and Thumbjam channels 4 and 5. Any additional instrument I set up on channel 6 (like Heavy Brass horns). I tried doing my usual setup today and B3-X kept crashing nonstop. It was kind of weird. Honestly I'm not really sure if there is an easier way of doing what I'm doing with an app for managing the channels and stuff.
I would have expected that using all the apps standalone you'd have the least memory issues, and memory limitations can be one possible reason for app crashes. B3-X is a large app and I don't know how much memory it consumes when starting up.
Have you rebooted your Mini before trying again?
I would load the largest app first, then the smaller ones because iOS can take some time to free up enough memory which might only be available after a few seconds (i.e. too late because the app already crashed due to a failed memory allocation call).