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Hammond B-3X by IK Multimedia

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  • @rhaley said:
    Been playing with the demo on the mac for 10 days now - lovely. Then played yesterday live using my Galileo 2 and the IAP leslie. Came home and immediately pulled the trigger and bought B-3X. I had got used to its warmth and power.
    Its running on an Ipad Pro 2018, in AUM with Ravenscroft 275, Neo Soul Studio 2, B-3x, Pure Platinum, and D1 and no drop outs or anything. As most of the others are sample based (High RAM and low CPU), B-3x is modelled and therefore low RAM and high CPU, and so has the headroom in my set up. Been playing all morning trying to break it - nothing. Working perfectly. Beautiful App. I used to spend way more than this when I was buying VST's, but now buying apps, I had to get out the £10 per app mindset.

    So there are no samples at all in B-3X? It seems like a pretty big program at over a gigabyte to not have any samples, also when I switch organ models there is a progress bar and it takes a couple seconds to load like its loading samples. Curious that’s all .. sounds great no matter what.

  • I never thought I would spend for this but I keep getting closer.

  • @cloudswimmer said:

    @rhaley said:
    Been playing with the demo on the mac for 10 days now - lovely. Then played yesterday live using my Galileo 2 and the IAP leslie. Came home and immediately pulled the trigger and bought B-3X. I had got used to its warmth and power.
    Its running on an Ipad Pro 2018, in AUM with Ravenscroft 275, Neo Soul Studio 2, B-3x, Pure Platinum, and D1 and no drop outs or anything. As most of the others are sample based (High RAM and low CPU), B-3x is modelled and therefore low RAM and high CPU, and so has the headroom in my set up. Been playing all morning trying to break it - nothing. Working perfectly. Beautiful App. I used to spend way more than this when I was buying VST's, but now buying apps, I had to get out the £10 per app mindset.

    So there are no samples at all in B-3X? It seems like a pretty big program at over a gigabyte to not have any samples, also when I switch organ models there is a progress bar and it takes a couple seconds to load like its loading samples. Curious that’s all .. sounds great no matter what.

    Of course there are samples. That’s what IKM do...

  • @TheOriginalPaulB said:

    @cloudswimmer said:

    @rhaley said:
    Been playing with the demo on the mac for 10 days now - lovely. Then played yesterday live using my Galileo 2 and the IAP leslie. Came home and immediately pulled the trigger and bought B-3X. I had got used to its warmth and power.
    Its running on an Ipad Pro 2018, in AUM with Ravenscroft 275, Neo Soul Studio 2, B-3x, Pure Platinum, and D1 and no drop outs or anything. As most of the others are sample based (High RAM and low CPU), B-3x is modelled and therefore low RAM and high CPU, and so has the headroom in my set up. Been playing all morning trying to break it - nothing. Working perfectly. Beautiful App. I used to spend way more than this when I was buying VST's, but now buying apps, I had to get out the £10 per app mindset.

    So there are no samples at all in B-3X? It seems like a pretty big program at over a gigabyte to not have any samples, also when I switch organ models there is a progress bar and it takes a couple seconds to load like its loading samples. Curious that’s all .. sounds great no matter what.

    Of course there are samples. That’s what IKM do...

    There are some samples, but it is more modeling than samples. As for samples being "what we do" that's not quite correct anyway. We have MODO BASS and MODO DRUM modeling software for Mac/PC, for example, and our roots are in analog modeled gear (guitar, mix/master, etc).

  • @ikmultimedia said:

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:

    @cloudswimmer said:

    @rhaley said:
    Been playing with the demo on the mac for 10 days now - lovely. Then played yesterday live using my Galileo 2 and the IAP leslie. Came home and immediately pulled the trigger and bought B-3X. I had got used to its warmth and power.
    Its running on an Ipad Pro 2018, in AUM with Ravenscroft 275, Neo Soul Studio 2, B-3x, Pure Platinum, and D1 and no drop outs or anything. As most of the others are sample based (High RAM and low CPU), B-3x is modelled and therefore low RAM and high CPU, and so has the headroom in my set up. Been playing all morning trying to break it - nothing. Working perfectly. Beautiful App. I used to spend way more than this when I was buying VST's, but now buying apps, I had to get out the £10 per app mindset.

    So there are no samples at all in B-3X? It seems like a pretty big program at over a gigabyte to not have any samples, also when I switch organ models there is a progress bar and it takes a couple seconds to load like its loading samples. Curious that’s all .. sounds great no matter what.

    Of course there are samples. That’s what IKM do...

    There are some samples, but it is more modeling than samples. As for samples being "what we do" that's not quite correct anyway. We have MODO BASS and MODO DRUM modeling software for Mac/PC, for example, and our roots are in analog modeled gear (guitar, mix/master, etc).

    Thanks for clearing that up IK, yeah I thought as much. Carry on the great work 👍

  • @McD or any knowledgeable brain out there... can I use midi tools to split my keyboard and thus be able to have the lower manual as my left hand and upper manual as my right?

    I’ve owned a C2 and a B3, tho @rs2000s tweaked sounds are very good off of Galileo, but I would have to hear some chords to really make a comparison. The presets, as mentioned above, in G2 are not very good. The B3x really sounds great and I just may get it if I can play both manuals on my Casio PXS3000. Hope to get an answer on this. My trigger finger is itchin.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @McD or any knowledgeable brain out there... can I use midi tools to split my keyboard and thus be able to have the lower manual as my left hand and upper manual as my right?

    I’ve owned a C2 and a B3, tho @rs2000s tweaked sounds are very good off of Galileo, but I would have to hear some chords to really make a comparison. The presets, as mentioned above, in G2 are not very good. The B3x really sounds great and I just may get it if I can play both manuals on my Casio PXS3000. Hope to get an answer on this. My trigger finger is itchin.

    At this time there is no splitting option inside the Hammond app directly. While apps like MIDIFlow, which allow MIDI routing in this way will work well for this kind of use, we do hear you guys. Stay tuned for future updates. We're always listening ;)

  • edited January 2020

    Deleted Sorry, double post. Web page froze up.

  • Here's my $0.02

    The dev can set the price at whatever they like. The issue is more that pricing standard has been set to the $20 & under range, generally. Most music apps, s> @LinearLineman said:

    @McD or any knowledgeable brain out there... can I use midi tools to split my keyboard and thus be able to have the lower manual as my left hand and upper manual as my right?

    I’ve owned a C2 and a B3, tho @rs2000s tweaked sounds are very good off of Galileo, but I would have to hear some chords to really make a comparison. The presets, as mentioned above, in G2 are not very good. The B3x really sounds great and I just may get it if I can play both manuals on my Casio PXS3000. Hope to get an answer on this. My trigger finger is itchin.

    Yes - you can accomplish this with a number of external MIDI tools. You could very likely do this with Mozaic - since he's been proselytizing about it for months now, I'm sure you could convince Our Man @McD to write the script for you.

    I can look at my iPad later for specifics about apps.

    Hint to the wise - my next video MAY help answer some of your questions, if you're patient enough to wait a couple weeks for me to get it out.....

  • @Mcd... do I need a script writer? A dark, troubled hero with a penchant for Godiva chocolates?

  • wimwim
    edited January 2020

    There are plenty of apps that'll do a keyboard split without scripting. IMO there's no reason to use a Mozaic script for this.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @McD or any knowledgeable brain out there... can I use midi tools to split my keyboard and thus be able to have the lower manual as my left hand and upper manual as my right?

    Yes. You insert one "MIDI Key Zone" plugin per track (or upper/lower "manual" if you will) and you adjust the active key zone and transposition for this track.

    I’ve owned a C2 and a B3, tho @rs2000s tweaked sounds are very good off of Galileo, but I would have to hear some chords to really make a comparison. The presets, as mentioned above, in G2 are not very good. The B3x really sounds great and I just may get it if I can play both manuals on my Casio PXS3000. Hope to get an answer on this. My trigger finger is itchin.

    I would say that it's possible to get close enough but I did that only for a few presets so far and I don't feel like re-doing all B-3X presets in Galileo 2, so the easiest way to get all the great presets now is to purchase B-3X I would say.

  • @wim said:
    There are plenty of apps that'll do a keyboard split without scripting. IMO there's no reason to use a Mozaic script for this.

    MIDIFlow's channel filtering sounds like it may work well (Ryan mentioned MIDIFlow) but I have not tested this directly myself.

  • @ikmultimedia said:

    @wim said:
    There are plenty of apps that'll do a keyboard split without scripting. IMO there's no reason to use a Mozaic script for this.

    MIDIFlow's channel filtering sounds like it may work well (Ryan mentioned MIDIFlow) but I have not tested this directly myself.

    MidiFlow Splitter is the most beautiful IMHO but it's not an AUv3 MIDI effect unfortunately.

  • By the way, StreamByter has a keyboard splitter factory preset included.

  • @LinearLineman: The splitting of a keyboards MIDI into 2 paths (or channels) can happen
    in several places:

    1. In the MIDI hardware controller
    2. An an AUv3 MIDI FX app (Mozaic, Streambyter, MIDI flow, and a few others).

    NOTE: sometimes the best split is a blended split that fades the lower keyboards and mixes in the upper keyboard to allow each hand to never sound the shock of stepping over the line.

    1. In AudioBus "plumbing" (which allows for targeting and is not limited to AUv3 in a host but opens the plumbing up for older Inter-Op standards
    2. In AUM and you can be send an AUM project and just get a solution IF you own the requisite apps to perform the task.
    3. In most DAW with the ability to import a DAW's project export format

    I'd recommend you get a Cubasis project example after deciding on the best MIDI FX app to buy. I think the creative benefits of Mozaic are worth the $8. I also think the best way to the ABF sending and sharing these solutions would be as AUM or AB projects. Out of courtesy to our host I'm love to see this forum standardize on AB3 export files on PatchStage in AB3 formats. AUM projects would also be a very powerful approach.

    Then we could also standardize on a short list of FX to insure "things would just work".

  • edited January 2020

    @McD, Midi tools may be the answer. However, I just gave that c note away to a dear friend who needs treatment for a rare cancer. So the Hammond may have to wait. A much better use of a Benjamin.

    Thanks @rs2000. So, I set the Hammond track up with MidiTool keyzone splitter... then use the iPad audio out (or BT) into the Casio? I’m thinking that will work, but will try on another instrument first.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @McD, Midi tools has a keyboard splitter that fades. Will that work? However, I just gave that c note away to a dear friend who needs treatment for a rare cancer. So the Hammond may have to wait.
    A much better use of a Benjamin.

    (HUMOR ON)

    A C Note for cancer treatment... there's an app for that?

    My sister needs a treatment too. Is it C3, C4 that works?

    If you can't find $100 then find a place to busk with your new Casio and "get a job playing music". Stop begging for that iTunes Gift card.

    (HUMOR OFF)

    Seriously, Can I get a small loan? I have a "monkey on my back". I just need a little fix.

  • @McD, better a monkey than a melanoma. I was actually gonna hit you up for that hunnerd. Seein as I always support whatever folderol you are peddling at the moment.

  • edited January 2020

    @McD @LinearLineman

    Jeez you guys - get a room already.

    ;)

  • McDMcD
    edited January 2020

    @LinearLineman said:
    @McD, better a monkey than a melanoma. I was actually gonna hit you up for that hunnerd. Seein as I always support whatever folderol you are peddling at the moment.

    Do I look like a bank to you? Your going to get some late fees on an account you never opened with interest. Your minimum paymentis $10. I accept BitCoin or welfare checks.

  • @McD said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    @McD, better a monkey than a melanoma. I was actually gonna hit you up for that hunnerd. Seein as I always support whatever folderol you are peddling at the moment.

    Do I look like a bank to you? Your going to get some late fees on an account you never opened with interest. You minimum payable is $10. I accept BitCoin or welfare checks.

    Did you noticed how @Mr_Poop tried to insert himself into our stream of unconsciousness?
    Let's not let any Poop come between us.

  • edited January 2020

    @LinearLineman said:
    Thanks @rs2000. So, I set the Hammond track up with MidiTool keyzone splitter... then use the iPad audio out (or BT) into the Casio? I’m thinking that will work, but will try on another instrument first.

    Actually you set up two separate Hammond tracks, one for the upper and one for the lower manual and insert the keyzone plugin as a MIDI plugin into each track to set the note range you want.

  • McDMcD
    edited January 2020

    @rs2000 said:
    Actually you set up two separate Hammond tracks, one for the upper and one for the lower manual and insert the keyzone plugin as a MIDI plugin into each track to set the note range you want.

    I don't see "MIDI Key Zone" in the Cubasis 2 MIDI FX List. Is it a product or accessible in
    a Cubasis 2 menu? The Pad Store doesn't show it as a product. All the splitters I currently own do not show either. How did you find it?

    UPDATE: Google helps. It's in AudioVeek's "MIDI Tools" AUv3 FX app.

    UPDATE 2: I had purchased MIDI Tools but it's was automatically deleted since I use the "delete oldest apps" to be able to purchase more without
    having to decide what to delete. I reloaded in from the App Store and rebooted Cubasis 2. Now I can see it and YES that's the best splitter style app
    that allows you to apply a velocity curve to a Zone and overlap zones in the 2 or more tracks to avoid the harsh cut over effect of the traditional split point.

    MIDI Tools has 8 Tools in all for $5. Perfect for the @LinearLineman to create
    blends, splits and complex layers in Cubasis 2. Excellent GUI too.

  • @McD said:
    Did you noticed how @Mr_Poop tried to insert himself into our stream of unconsciousness?
    Let's not let any Poop come between us.

    Don't knock it 'till ya try it

  • @Daveypoo said:

    @McD said:
    Did you noticed how @Mr_Poop tried to insert himself into our stream of unconsciousness?
    Let's not let any Poop come between us.

    Don't knock it 'till ya try it

    And you are allowed to be a parent? What a country. Your wife has 3 children and one is
    beyond repair. I pray for the other children.

  • Is it possible to send Drawbar position via midi when change patches? I have a Behringer Motor keyboard (it has motorized faders) and it will be awesome if the B-3X updates the keyboard faders

  • edited January 2020

    @McD said:
    And you are allowed to be a parent? What a country. Your wife has 3 children and one is
    beyond repair. I pray for the other children.

    Don't tell my kids which one is beyond repair - I have plans for them to battle it out Mad Max-style in my own private backyard Thunderdome. Two kids enter - one kid leaves.

  • @rs2000 , perfect! That’s how I set up the Kawai in Turkey to record separate bass and melody.

  • Hello Ik Multimedia-Team...is there any chance that you’re transforming your great app into a universal app?...it would be really the biggest thing to have a real Hammond in our pockets!!!...and think about that: there are s lot of people who have no iPad devices, but an iPhone...for me it would be an instant buy also with even higher costs than the actual iPad-app...thank you very much for developing a universal app out of your Hammond app!...

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