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Banned for having ‘Snowflake’ as a title?!

We have just had a song banned from Reddit - because it’s called ‘Snowflake’!

The song is about having a rare good day, but like a snowflake, it floats or melts away.
Is everything offending everybody?
For most of history, a snowflake has been ice formed in clouds. Now it isn’t?

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  • What was the reason for the ban?

  • The world has become obsessed with words.

  • @rs2000 said:
    What was the reason for the ban?

    A snowflake was offended.

  • @jolico said:

    @rs2000 said:
    What was the reason for the ban?

    A snowflake was offended.

    Wow, does Reddit take care of minorities? 😅

    @DefRobot: Have you tried "Snowman"?

  • @rs2000 said:
    What was the reason for the ban?

    Simply having Snowflake as a title!
    It doesn’t have anything to do with easily offended people! The irony...

  • Call it

    A flake of snow.

  • Or Snowflek

  • @rs2000 said:

    @jolico said:

    @rs2000 said:
    What was the reason for the ban?

    A snowflake was offended.

    Wow, does Reddit take care of minorities? 😅

    @DefRobot: Have you tried "Snowman"?

    @topaz said:
    Call it

    A flake of snow.

    Too late, it’s out there and floating away now...
    I think it’s ridiculous that you have to be careful of normal everyday words being used in art.

  • Maybe they could ban the offended people for offending you for offending them

  • @DefRobot said:

    @rs2000 said:
    What was the reason for the ban?

    Simply having Snowflake as a title!
    It doesn’t have anything to do with easily offended people! The irony...

    Setting the stage for the 2020s. 🙄

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  • Ey up Def. Tidy song and video, mate. I take it you’ve already penned the follow-up? Give me a bell if you require extra vocal emphasis on the “Fuck off Reddit, you pricks” bit. Dear oh dear oh dear. Art.

  • Sorry, no native English here, what’s the problem with the word snowflakes?

  • @Faland said:
    Sorry, no native English here, what’s the problem with the word snowflakes?

    Context.

  • Ok I got it, found it on Wikipedia. Ridiculously paranoid behavior from Reddit. 😳

  • Animism. No need to dig deeper.

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    @SevenSystems said:

    @Faland said:
    Sorry, no native English here, what’s the problem with the word snowflakes?

    From what I understand (no native English speaker either), "Snowflake" is being used to make fun of people (especially various minorities) that are easily offended (i.e. "they have a personality that is as sensitive as a snowflake and can be easily crushed").

    Due to the recently increasing paranoia, many platforms are afraid of being accused of "hate speech", harassment etc. if someone possibly might be offending someone else, so they rather delete one too many posts than one too few to avoid being shutdown or paying hefty fines.

    It's a term of offense, if used in that context, just like any other slang term/name calling.

    Regardless of whether it's a legal issue, people should avoid calling people names online, or offline, as it's not a very nice thing to do.

  • Thank you @SevenSystems it’s what I found on Wikipedia. 👍

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  • @Bluepunk said:
    Ey up Def. Tidy song and video, mate. I take it you’ve already penned the follow-up? Give me a bell if you require extra vocal emphasis on the “Fuck off Reddit, you pricks” bit. Dear oh dear oh dear. Art.

    Ello Blue! Been a while crocodile!
    Did you take a Sabbatical?
    I’ll have to pop in SOTMC at some point to see what you’re on with!

  • edited December 2019

    Steve Hughes - Offended

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @Faland said:
    Sorry, no native English here, what’s the problem with the word snowflakes?

    From what I understand (no native English speaker either), "Snowflake" is being used to make fun of people (especially various minorities) that are easily offended (i.e. "they have a personality that is as sensitive as a snowflake and can be easily crushed").

    Due to the recently increasing paranoia, many platforms are afraid of being accused of "hate speech", harassment etc. if someone possibly might be offending someone else, so they rather delete one too many posts than one too few to avoid being shutdown or paying hefty fines.

    Regardless of whether it's a legal issue, people should avoid calling people names online, or offline, as it's not a very nice thing to do.

    It's not very nice, but has been a regular part of human behavior since the dawn of civilization. Only for the past maybe 5 or 10 years has it started to be considered unacceptable. I'm not sure why. I'm pretty slow to react to and quite suspicious of sudden change (I'm old as well!), so I'm not quite sure yet if this is the right way to go. It takes a huge part of the fun out of life. Because at least in my generation, making fun of people is... great fun 😉

    It rather depends on whether the person you're 'making fun' of, is finding it fun too, and what you're making fun of.

    We have a 'political correctness gone mad' debate on here every few months - it's a bit like the app pricing one's that keep coming around, and it seems to expose a bit of a dark underbelly to the forum that makes me uncomfortable.

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  • What SJWs and anti-SJWs don't seem to understand is that everything boils down to POLITENESS. If you don't know the person, be polite. Nobody knows where a person is coming from nor their background nor what they went through in their past unless you get to know that person.

    Another thing sorely lacking in today's society is a little thing known as "the benefit of the doubt". Again, this applies to both sides. In regards to the OP's song, there's nothing wrong with it. It has a nice 70s Pop vibe to it and has a happy message. However, I can see how the first verse can be taken way out of context.

    "I'm on top of the top of my stuff.
    I'm a universe and you're a dot.
    I got a mood that you can't stop.
    This feeling's what I got. I'm a winner and you're not."

    (If I got any of the lyrics wrong, forgive me mate.)

    If you don't make it to the chorus, one automatically assumes the song is an offensive diddy about poking fun of people with a thin skin rather than what the OP actually intended. Mods don't have time to sit and listen through an entire song, and so they make an ASS of U and ME by assuming what something is about. Did the OP deserve an outright ban though? Hell no! The mods should've simply removed the song if they found it offensive, or better yet, listened to the whole thing. But as I said, mods on Reddit don't have time to listen to a whole song.

    I'm just trying to bring context to this whole fiasco from a "middle ground" perspective.

  • being musicians and dare I say artists the thought of any piece of art being banned is disturbing.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    What SJWs and anti-SJWs don't seem to understand is that everything boils down to POLITENESS. If you don't know the person, be polite. Nobody knows where a person is coming from nor their background nor what they went through in their past unless you get to know that person.

    Another thing sorely lacking in today's society is a little thing known as "the benefit of the doubt". Again, this applies to both sides. In regards to the OP's song, there's nothing wrong with it. It has a nice 70s Pop vibe to it and has a happy message. However, I can see how the first verse can be taken way out of context.

    "I'm on top of the top of my stuff.
    I'm a universe and you're a dot.
    I got a mood that you can't stop.
    This feeling's what I got. I'm a winner and you're not."

    (If I got any of the lyrics wrong, forgive me mate.)

    If you don't make it to the chorus, one automatically assumes the song is an offensive diddy about poking fun of people with a thin skin rather than what the OP actually intended. Mods don't have time to sit and listen through an entire song, and so they make an ASS of U and ME by assuming what something is about. Did the OP deserve an outright ban though? Hell no! The mods should've simply removed the song if they found it offensive, or better yet, listened to the whole thing. But as I said, mods on Reddit don't have time to listen to a whole song.

    I'm just trying to bring context to this whole fiasco from a "middle ground" perspective.

    It’s a bait and switch. You get berated for not being polite and next thing you know you are cancelled.

    So no, it’s not about being polite or good manners at all.

    It is a totalitarian mindset and You MUST NOT THINK UNAPPROVED THOUGHTS.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    What SJWs and anti-SJWs don't seem to understand is that everything boils down to POLITENESS. If you don't know the person, be polite. Nobody knows where a person is coming from nor their background nor what they went through in their past unless you get to know that person.

    Another thing sorely lacking in today's society is a little thing known as "the benefit of the doubt". Again, this applies to both sides. In regards to the OP's song, there's nothing wrong with it. It has a nice 70s Pop vibe to it and has a happy message. However, I can see how the first verse can be taken way out of context.

    "I'm on top of the top of my stuff.
    I'm a universe and you're a dot.
    I got a mood that you can't stop.
    This feeling's what I got. I'm a winner and you're not."

    (If I got any of the lyrics wrong, forgive me mate.)

    If you don't make it to the chorus, one automatically assumes the song is an offensive diddy about poking fun of people with a thin skin rather than what the OP actually intended. Mods don't have time to sit and listen through an entire song, and so they make an ASS of U and ME by assuming what something is about. Did the OP deserve an outright ban though? Hell no! The mods should've simply removed the song if they found it offensive, or better yet, listened to the whole thing. But as I said, mods on Reddit don't have time to listen to a whole song.

    I'm just trying to bring context to this whole fiasco from a "middle ground" perspective.

    Almost there mate!
    I’m on top,
    Of the toppermost top...

    Yeah, taken as just that verse (out of context) you might think it’s a rant.
    But it’s about feeling good for once in your life and you’re shouting it to the people that usually make you feel bad or a loser.

    Looks like it was removed by some kind of Bot. The UK music group accepted it okay.

  • @[Deleted User] said:
    being musicians and dare I say artists the thought of any piece of art being banned is disturbing.

    Totally with you on that one!
    Once things become over censored, it is a very dangerous road.
    Free speech and making your own mind up is the common sense way.
    Hitler got a lot of art and books banned and burnt. Just because he didn’t agree with them.

  • edited December 2019

    First of all, it’s a very good song. Really well crafted and performed and recorded. Congratulations.

    But “banned from Reddit”? That seems...unlikely? A simple google search of “snowflake” and “reddit” turns up thousands of hits, many of the dismissive variety. Possibly banned from a subreddit?

    But it’s interesting how quickly some people believe that a lyrically innocuous song was banned for its misconstrued title on zero evidence.

    And it may well have been banned!

    But — no offense — it’s a little like the guy telling his buddies he didn’t get the girl because he was too good-looking.
    @DefRobot What did they say when you were banned?

    I don’t believe any word should be banned ever. Which doesn’t mean that people who intentionally insult or degrade others should be free from consequence.

    Obviously, “snowflake” should not be prohibited from speech. But those who use the term do tell a lot about themselves.

    John Cleese said it best:
    Yes I've heard this word. I think sociopaths use it in an attempt to discredit the notion of empathy.

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